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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: blue on July 08, 2016, 12:44:04 PM
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Tires are just past the ware marks .i have new tire already.But just wana get the most of what i have on it now.lot of good tred on the side walls .little in the center.should i go a few more 100.00 miles or change.
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My .02: Put on new tires. I'm not the most experienced guy on the road by a long shot...but the only thing keeping you upright are two small patches of rubber, a few inches square. I want those few inches to be in good shape. I feel like motorcycle tires are the last thing to cheap out on. $100 is not worth your traction/life.
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What Salvador said, Blue. It ain't long between no tread to CORDS!
Karl
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Yes, I agree. Also look for the age of the tire on the sidewall (DOT-Number). If the tire has reached 3 or 4 years your decision should be an even easier one.
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Tires are just past the ware marks .i have new tire already.But just wana get the most of what i have on it now.lot of good tred on the side walls .little in the center.should i go a few more 100.00 miles or change.
Good stuff on the sidewalls - bare in the center?
Might work if you stay in nothing but knee-dragging L & R turns?
Flatten some beer cans and duct tape 'em on your knees.
Stig
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Got the point thanks guys. We are have a hot weather right now. So as soon as I can stand it long enough to be out side ill change the tires.....The hot roads realy do a # on the tires here.
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what State are you riding in, Blue?
MPLS-Palm Springs here
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My new rear tire on my SW. Hope to get 30k.
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what State are you riding in, Blue?
MPLS-Palm Springs here
michigan.its been in the high 90 here so i realy wana wait tell the roads to cool down.Before i put the new tire on.
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My new rear tire on my SW. Hope to get 30k.
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;) I have experimented with the darkside on my V-Strom 1000, studded knobby in front, General Altimax Arctic on the back, I could get around in the snow as good as my Jeep, worked ok in mud as well but not great low speed or off road due to large contact patch and squishy sidewalls that stiffen as speed increases, I found a spare rear wheel so I only run it in winter now 8)
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Scooter Dan, does that tire come in 16 inch? Would like to get one for wife's GTi300 since she has the outrigger wheels.
Karl
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Scooter Dan, does that tire come in 16 inch? Would like to get one for wife's GTi300 since she has the outrigger wheels.
Karl
Karl, don't know your tire size however it's a Maxxis MA-202 purchased through Amazon for $47.
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Thanks, Dan. Did you have any trouble mounting this square shoulder tire on the scooter rim? I would be real careful on turns with this since no side car/outrigger wheels were seen in your picture.
Karl
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30K on a rear tire!
Yep, that's what I thought you were doing.
OK, how does that tire work in corners?
You, know - they preach constantly to us not to mix tire types, tread types - front and rear. Constantly hear that.
Now you have a scooter tire on the front - and what?, a trailer tire on the rear?!
Seriously - how does it work for you.
curious Stig
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Car tire not a trailer tire and works well even in corners. This is my 4th bike with a c/T, 3 scooters and a Goldwing. Slow speed maneuvering is good in parking lots, don't notice any difference in cornering and high speeds at 100 mph is excellent. The ride is smoother too. Generally don't quickly deflate like a m/t and can ride on it to get off the road because of the stiffer side walls. This is my mine reason after my m/t blew recently on my SW. Not really a money saving motivation for me getting 30k on the rear tire as much as feeling safer on a c/t. Not a negative thing to say about it for me and the many thousands that have gone to the darkside sing it's praises too. There are other motorcycle forums where the darkside is discussed in great depth and some video is available to show the contact patch of a motorcycle tire vs a c/t. I've done my homework on it and feel comfortable and safe with my choice. Bear in mind though this is a volitile subject on some bike forums as it's not for everyone and some bikes may behave differently with a c/t.
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the stiffer side walls.
are you running a run-flat ?
my darkside experience on my V-strom is that the car tire sidewall is nowhere near as stiff as the sidewalls of MC tires in V-strom size
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My question would be simply this one:
Can a car tire be used legally on a motorbike? I strongly doubt that.
What about insurance coverage in case of an accident?
At least overhere in Europe this would be a clear no go and is forbidden.
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My question would be simply this one:
Can a car tire be used legally on a motorbike? I strongly doubt that.
What about insurance coverage in case of an accident?
At least overhere in Europe this would be a clear no go and is forbidden.
I have passed every inspection here in Texas on 4 of my bikes that had c/t installed.
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are you running a run-flat ?
When available for the size required.
my darkside experience on my V-strom is that the car tire sidewall is nowhere near as stiff as the sidewalls of MC tires in V-strom size
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Busted my butt second time on first bike with a badly worn rear tire in a wet corner. Tire worn square - - like a car tire. The main issue then was learn when to replace tires on two-wheeled vehicles. The connection between then and now is the contact patch gets real small in a corner with a squarish cross-section. Just sayin'...be careful.
Karl
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Busted my butt second time on first bike with a badly worn rear tire in a wet corner. Tire worn square - - like a car tire. The main issue then was learn when to replace tires on two-wheeled vehicles. The connection between then and now is the contact patch gets real small in a corner with a squarish cross-section. Just sayin'...be careful.
Karl
Thanks Karl and others for your concerns regarding my use of c/t on my bikes. I consider all points of view valid as it is part of how I make decisions regarding rider safety. I'm not necessarily an advocate for the darkside as I seldom speak to this with others . If in my query regarding the darkside I learn that this is unsafe I will abandon using them.
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I have passed every inspection here in Texas on 4 of my bikes that had c/t installed.
That´s interesting indeed. Your annual or biennial vehicle safety- and emission inspections must be pretty easy and relaxed then. But on the other hand you need extra turn signals mounted on the handle bar of some scooters, because the built in ones are not good enough...
Not so here in Europe. Here the tires must fit the proper tire size/dimension given by the vehicles manufacturer. Therefore the built in turn signals are way good enough. :D
And not only this, most advocates highly recommend to use only tire brands/models which have explicit clearance from the tire manufacturer or the vehicle manufacturer for the specific bike model. Just to avoid insurance issues in case of an accident and not leaving doors wide open for "hedge lawyers".
But like an old saying: "No risk, no fun!" ;) :)
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That´s interesting indeed. Your annual or biennial vehicle safety- and emission inspections must be pretty easy and relaxed then. But on the other hand you need extra turn signals mounted on the handle bar of some scooters, because the built in ones are not good enough...
Not so here in Europe. Here the tires must fit the proper tire size/dimension given by the vehicles manufacturer. Therefore the built in turn signals are way good enough. :D
And not only this, most advocates highly recommend to use only tire brands/models which have explicit clearance from the tire manufacturer or the vehicle manufacturer for the specific bike model. Just to avoid insurance issues in case of an accident and not leaving doors wide open for "hedge lawyers".
But like an old saying: "No risk, no fun!" ;) :)
They do the inspection in about 2 minutes as I sit on the bike and turn on signals, lights and horn. They don't ride it to test brakes and the rest is visual. Surely they must look at tires to see if they have enough tread? As for insurance concerns, riders have been installing c/t on bikes for quite awhile as this is not a new practice and I have yet to read of any issues regarding this. If I do, I will go back to a m/t.
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That´s interesting indeed. Your annual or biennial vehicle safety- and emission inspections must be pretty easy and relaxed then. But on the other hand you need extra turn signals mounted on the handle bar of some scooters, because the built in ones are not good enough...
Not so here in Europe. Here the tires must fit the proper tire size/dimension given by the vehicles manufacturer. Therefore the built in turn signals are way good enough. :D
And not only this, most advocates highly recommend to use only tire brands/models which have explicit clearance from the tire manufacturer or the vehicle manufacturer for the specific bike model. Just to avoid insurance issues in case of an accident and not leaving doors wide open for "hedge lawyers".
But like an old saying: "No risk, no fun!" ;) :)
It's a different world over here. I have been riding for over 35 years and have NEVER had to have any of my bikes inspected except to verify the VIN. Some states require it but not any of the states I have registered a motorcycle or scooter in.
As for running car tires on bikes, it's not that uncommon here. I have ridden with a number of riders running CTs. Safety does not seem to be an issue. The only real "issue" seems to be a different feel than with MC/Scooter tires.
Legal issue? I have seen that brought up in forum discussions as a reason not to run a CT but have NEVER seen an example of anyone running into legal issues from running a CT.
Like I mentioned it's a different world here and you will see some strange stuff. These look like tractor tires:
(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu171/wknudsen/2014%20pics/PA110032_zps5057186a.jpg)
It's even possible to register home made contraptions like this:
(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu171/wknudsen/2014%20pics/sept%2014%20vac/P9140007_zps5fcd28b1.jpg)
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New tire on.
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New tire on.
Good for you, blue!
Ride safe on it!
Stig