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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: wordslinger on June 04, 2010, 02:15:18 AM
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..figured i should start another thread...
:o
...so, i ordered the NCY cvt kit...and a kevlar belt...
..goodbye chewed up malossi and leo..and kymco oem....
..gonna have me a complete NCY cvt tomorrow....
..I owe Josh (Areomyst) a word of thanks here, as he really hooked me up on this kit....
"http://www.tsgtuning.com"
"http://www.scooterinvasion.net/index.html"
..i probably won't sleep tonight in anticipation.....
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How did he hook u up?
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..he had that kit in his shop for a while...never had the opportunity to use it on anything...
..he gave me a very decent price reduction, and some good advice on other things we talked about...
..i gotta make one of those scoot-ins those guys have...
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Ah, aawesome! ;D
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Let me know if you're flying with that upgrade.
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...dude, if this is as good as what my malossi variator and contra spring, with my leo fly springs in the oem clutch...
..and i can't see how it wouldn't be...i'll be happier than a pig in shi ....umm crap...
;D
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Pigs have 10 hour orgasms, they can be happy in anything.
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Pigs have 10 hour orgasms
..i knew a girl once that.....
..nah, better not go there....
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Go on, bea devil. ;-)
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..i can't...besides, i gotta go install this kit!!!....
..headin to th store for some refreshments..
..then it's out with th' old and in with th' new!!!
..i'll hit ya'll up later!!
peace!
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...18:55 pm...US EDS time...
..tools and new bits are in position...
..10 minutes to prep for the task...
..cvt cover is awaiting...
..we will be simulcasting on WSCT-100.3 FM and SCOOT TV...A50 on your satellite channel...
..cvt upgrade starts in 5..4..3...
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done yet???
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...parts are in...scoot is on th' porch warming up...fixin to take her out for a run with new bits, except for my slightly worn 4.7 gram rollers..
..i think they're gonna prove to be too light, due to th fact that everything i installed was lighter in weight than what i took out...
...here we go...brb...
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...4.7's wouldn't hardly get me outta th' driveway...
...wow......
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..i put in the 9 gr rollers, that come with the kit...
.dang, they were ALMOST good.....too heavy however, and it's kinda hard to explain, but they felt more torquey...
..think imma be looking at 7 gr. rollers with this setup...
..the GOOD thing is, i have a Stage 6 roller tuning kit at my disposal...
..the BAD thing is, it's now raining, and tuning has ceased...
........g-dammit....
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..this was an easy upgrade, i took my time, and did it all in less than 1 hour...
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Hows the 9g rollers doin?
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Torquey is good! Lol.
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Dammit, we want results. :)
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Yea man stop holding out on us.
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...major issue.....
...so, it seems that a cpl ppl at the NCY Motor Sports facility, a machinist and a quality inspector, to name two, were either having a very bad day, or were high on hippie grass, or something.....
..i didn't install the moveable driven face (mdf) last night, because i couldn't get the seal collar off the OEM...so, i figured after work today, (3:30) i would throw in three 9 gr rollers and three 5.5 gr rollers, soak it in some solvent, which i did, make the change and be on my way to tuning the variator...
...the inside of the ncy mdf had never been machined to a smooth surface...it still had the rough tool marks in it...measured out to exactly .0015" greater than the O.D of the driven face's shaft...basicly a press fit...
..so, i get out my trusty die grinder and a 400 grit flap wheel, remove the seals (didn't like doing that at all) and begin to open it up...now, not knowing what the clearance between the two bits should be, i make an uneducated guess and assemble everything kinda snug thinking that there are some pretty great forces at work in this area, and take off down th' road...MISTAKE...after about a half mile, the damned thing stuck, and i didn't think i was going to be able to get it going at all at low speed........but, i eventually made it back to the shop...(6:30) tear it all down again, and decided to chuck it up in a lathe, to get a more even surface, and expidite the whole process a bit...well of course, i had to reverse the jaws on the lathe's chuck (ain't nothin' easy) and finally achieved a smooth even surface and didn't even bother to measure the dimensions, as by then i'm getting pretty tired and hungry...greased and assembled the clutch, again, and close everything up for the next trial run...well, this worked but 43.5 gram total weight is still a bit too much..can't get the rpms up enough for a quick take-off and the machine won't maintain top speed...
..made it home at 8:30...
..tomorrow is another day......and i'm going to start at 6 grams...
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I would take it back to the guy who sold it to you before you do anything more to it. Maybe there was a reason he had it lying around for awhile.
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I would take it back to the guy who sold it to you before you do anything more to it. Maybe there was a reason he had it lying around for awhile.
..no, it's not his fault at all...without inspecting thoroughly each bit in th' kit, nobody would ever have known...
..the fault lies in NCY's lap with this one...
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Well regardless, hope you get it going!
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..oh, it's going!!! :o
..other than the issue with the mdf, i love it!!... ;D
..just wanted to get the rollers tuned in today, and that didn't happen.... :-\
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Sorry for your pain slinger. Nothing like being let down. If it makes you feel any better there was this one time at Band Camp...
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..oh, i'm alright with th' kit...i fixed the problem...i'd also hope it's a nomly for other ppls sake...
.. somebody else that didn't have the recoures at their disposal that i do...........
..well that guy would have been screwed and dejected and really fu*king pissed off...
..me, ..imma tune this bitch tomorrow!!!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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...wish i was a flute....
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So someone would blow you? NOT IT!
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..no, that red headed girl is hott...
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??? HUH ??? Calothrix is a dude!
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there was this one time at Band Camp
...her.....
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...6 grams is th' ticket!!...up from 4.7
..i've never had my scoot's cvt dialed in as well as it is right now...
..acceleration starts out smooth, but quick, and the rpms stay up with no drop-off at all, as it reaches top speed....
..one note on the whole upgrade..
.. the 748 belt is too long...
peace
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How much better is it than your previous set up with the polini(?) var and stock(?) clutch?
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Excellent, glad to hear of the good result :)
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..well, my old parts were extremely worn..
..Malossi multivar variator, oem clutch with malossi 1000 contra and +15% leo vince fly springs...
..i've never had this consistent acceleration without dropping rpms all the way up to top speed, which today, topped out at 85 kmh with a moderate headwind..
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..thanx sid, if this kit holds up, it was a good investment...
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That's good. My torque spring turned up today, was tempted to put it in but got to go to work early, tomorrow is a day of so will spend it on the scoot.
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That's great slinger, now i dont know what to do next... transmission kit, or cylinder kit. Still waiting on my clutch springs, exhaust, free flow filter, and some main jets.
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..you getting the 1500 spring?
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...get your cvt dialed in first..i would bet that 5 gram rollers, 1000 torque and the next above stock fly springs will make you really happy...
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Yea i'm going to dial in the transmission before i put it the other stuff. I got the 1500 torque spring, should be nice. Plus i got 1000, 1500, 2000 fly springs to play around with. Hopefully 5g rollers will play nicely with these springs i bought, i don't want to wait for more rollers, i hate waiting!
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..i'm anticipating the effects of the 1500 torque spring....you'll probably want the 1000 fly springs...
..i'fe found that increases in the 15-25% range livens up the "stock" A50...
..much over that percentage, and you either rev too high or loo low for optimum performance...
..change out one bit at a time..see what that does for your scoot, then swap out something else...
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...well, as it's turns out..i have not been entirely satisfied with the NCY parts...
..initially, the parts performed well, but over a very short time, performance has faltered with the ncy bits...
..currently, the only ncy bit i'm running is the variator, and that's because i have nothing better to use...
..gonna go back to Malossi, as soon as the funds are there...
peace
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so cheap isnt always best solution .... what parts disapointed you ?
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...all of them...