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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Downtown 300 => Topic started by: TANWare on April 15, 2016, 05:12:48 PM
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I just ordered a Bestem 929 TBox. For under $80 it looks like a good economical option. While those high end Giiv box's etc. look great I just can not justify the cost.
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I bought a E 55 givi box, and found out the lights are to small,. they where hard to see day and night, so I switched for E 460 givi box and it looks like Stigs top box with lots of lights ,. so I have a E 55 top box I use as a suit case,. or I can switch it on the scooter ,if I need the large size,.
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I am no too sure about these universal mounts. In the end I may just have to pay for a Givi and the SR92.
Edit, on that note does anyone have pics of using a universal mount on our bikes? I know the solid rack must be a bit of a challange.
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call in and check if the mount comes with the bestem box,. at my dealer the shad box and the givi fit the same mount,.
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It comes with the universal plate. The sr92m is the Givi plate for the Downtown. one reviewer said the 929 was usable on a Givi plate after a simple mod..
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It is. That is the setup I have. All I had to do was drill 2 new holes on the universal plate and it fits like a glove. Trying to figure out the wiring was another story but I got it to work. I also used a trailer connection between the scoot and the box so IF I wanted to take it off I could. I think I might have posted pics of it on here if not I could take some and post them if you need them.
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Yes please, all pics could be a great help.
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I saw various pictures of the box, looks great. I would like pics though of the mods as in what holes were enlarged and or drilled? Also did you need the SR92 or SR92m? The later is with out the plate and for the monolock instead of monokey box's. I looked at the universal plate and it does not seem usable with the rack as stock.
Edit; the box itself seem pretty strong but I would like to see beefier hinging.
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I saw various pictures of the box, looks great. I would like pics though of the mods as in what holes were enlarged and or drilled? Also did you need the SR92 or SR92m? The later is with out the plate and for the monolock instead of monokey box's. I looked at the universal plate and it does not seem usable with the rack as stock.
Edit; the box itself seem pretty strong but I would like to see beefier hinging.
My 929 has been banging along on the backof my LIKE200I for two years with no issues.
Rack is fine......lights all working. This is a very "safe" accessory for a very modest price....priced as ALL plastic scooter boxes should be priced@@!
Stig
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I ordered the SR 92. I have the liner itself coming in on Wednesday.
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Soory I haven't gotten back to you sooner Tan, my father died and was dealing with all that. I will get you pics beginning of this week. I did use the rack without the plate. The universal plate with the box worked great. I needed to drill 2 new holes and used 2 existing holes. for the wiring I had to drill one hole near the seat to run the wires through. I also used heat shrink around the wires to keep them together. I will take some pics and post them for you.
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Great, thanks. I am still waiting for the kit sr92. I am in no major hurry so take your time, also sorry to hear of your loss.
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Wow, didn't know Givi made a lighted box that looks like my Bestem 929.
But $240 for the box + $140 for the light "kit" that must be installed ??
Or:
(http://i65.tinypic.com/i6jj9z.jpg)
About the safest thing to have on the back of your scoot - save for a trail car.
Don't go out into the dark or rain without something like this!
Plus makes a little scoot seem much bigger to cars back there .... or beside you, since the lights wrap around to the sides of the box as well...
The whole thing doubles it's LED's when you touch the brakes -- + the light on top of the case comes on.
My stuff stays dry in heavy rains....and there is a liner which can be purchased for @$20.
Got mine from the BESTEM web site (FREE SHIPPING) .....liner later from AMAZON.
Stig
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Stig you are so right on that.
TAN here are the pics. I don't remember which set of holes I had to drill and I kinda remember I had to enlarge at least one of the others for it to fit. But it was a whole lot simpler to mount then I ever thought. The wire connection was from the RV/trailer section at Walmart. I did that connect just in case I ever wanted to take off the top case for some reason instead of hard wiring the box in and not allowing that function. I just drilled the hole near the back. Still meaning to fill in around the wires with a little silicon to seal it. One of these days I will. I added the foam weatherstrip to take the little bit of rattle out that I had.
Next thing I'm going to do is redo that damn seat and make it comfy.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45717620@N02/with/26554459972/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/45717620@N02/with/26554459972/)
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Thanks. I too eventually will use the trailer wire hook up. I am thinking a constant ground and then for the 3 positive wires
1.) tail light
2.) stop light
3.) 10 amp fused direct feed from the battery to a power port inside the box.
I will need to get the lit tail light strip though.
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I started with the givi box and givi lights, they kept flicking off, so I ordered LED light strips that glued on ,. and wired it on one wire from running light , one wire from Ea. turn light , and one wire from brake light, ran wires to trailer 4 wire hook up, at the box installed LED light strips under light faring, took me one after noon, with about 2 hours of cussing
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Thanks. I too eventually will use the trailer wire hook up. I am thinking a constant ground and then for the 3 positive wires
1.) tail light
2.) stop light
3.) 10 amp fused direct feed from the battery to a power port inside the box.
I will need to get the lit tail light strip though.
Yeah I used the ground on the scooter and have the strip wired for running and brake lights. And then the 3rd eye comes on with braking
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I have the brackets all mounted. I was going to paint it white but looking at it the black matching the seat works best. I am really happy with the size of the box for the bike as well. Now to get the electrical done and then the liner installed.
Edit; Took a short ride and this works great. It seems the box lowers the amount of turbulent air hitting your back as you ride, at least up to 50MPH as I had tried out. this makes for a much more comfortable ride in the cooler air. Not too sure how this will translate on the warmer days however.
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I love the liner. I have spilled a few things in the liner and just took it out and rinsed it in the sink and put it back in. It does seem to help with the airflow somehow in my mind too. The Givi windscreen helped alot too.
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The "BESTEM" box looks brilliant! I just had a quick look and it looks like it's not available in the UK.
I have the givi E370, and there is a brake light kit available at £30 ish, but it's certainly not a patch on the BESTEM box.
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The "BESTEM" box looks brilliant! I just had a quick look and it looks like it's not available in the UK.
I have the givi E370, and there is a brake light kit available at £30 ish, but it's certainly not a patch on the BESTEM box.
the givi E460 looks like stigs top box , and you can wire it at home , the E370 does the light kit fill all of the reflectors, with brake and turn signals, with running lights.,
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I don't think so De Dee, it is only the 3 leds!
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I am not too sure about the reflector/lighting strip. I want the reflector to be both lit as a tail light and as a turn signal. I purchased 12 of the 15 light 11" strips and have a Bestem 4 wire disconnect coming. I would use 2 strips per side. I was also planing on a 4 wire trailer quick disconnect as well. This would give an eight wire connection.
1.) constant ground
2.) brake positive
3.) Tail positive
4.) left positive
5.) right positive
6.) met-in positive (inside box light)
7.) constant positive (power port)
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I followed a wire diagram from another site. I used the wires provided and didn't have to add any. The LED strip is on as a running light and also lights up with the brake and then there is the 3rd eye brake light. I can pull out the liner and tell you the colors that go together and take a pic too.
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I don't have the stock LEDs for the strip. I plan on wiring in my own. If we just use the brake light tail light four wires fine.However I am greedy and want more!
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I have started the lighting. I have 2 9 LED strips inside for night time light. I am going to use 4 15 LED strips for the tail light. at least for now I am going to hold off on the rest.
(http://www.pcambrosia.com/photo_gallery/Box-1.jpg)
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closer;
(http://www.pcambrosia.com/photo_gallery/Box-2.jpg)
(http://www.pcambrosia.com/photo_gallery/Box-3.jpg)
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I think I might have to add the white in box light strip. I like that. Are they on all the time then or did you put a switch somewhere?
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Right now I just have the box wired. Next step is the bike wiring. I plan to run the;
1.) stop light
2.) dual light strips as tail light
3.) the interior lights from the under seat light power
so to activate the box light I will just then just pop the seat open.
Edit; if you do the lights the tape is not very strong so I super glued them in to the box.
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Now it is all done, trying finishing in the dark.
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some pics;
(http://www.pcambrosia.com/photo_gallery/bike-1.jpg)
(http://www.pcambrosia.com/photo_gallery/bike-2.jpg)
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problem with 3rd image in browser.
Edit; fixed 3rd image.
(http://www.pcambrosia.com/photo_gallery/bike-3.jpg)
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Looking good 8)
Now to get the Givi wind screen
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I did think of getting a top box before I bought the bike because it was said that, despite Kymco saying you could, you couldn't get two full face crash helmets under the seat.
Since buying the bike, I've found the underseat storage to be more than adequate for two FF helmets.