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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: briandrum on May 29, 2010, 07:48:51 PM
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I stopped by the dealership that I traded my car for my scooter today to ask if they had rollers, or knew where to get them. ( I know I can order them, but I have zero patience and want things right now!) He says to stop up at his garage and talk to a couple of the guys there...they may have some for me...... I continue talking to the owner, and he tells me about a ride he's putting together that basically covers the entire south-southeast section of CT next Saturday. He also tells me if I want, I can hop on a Super 8 for the ride so I won't have any troubles keeping up. (all the 150 decals have been stripped off) Sounds good to me! He tells me to take one out for a quick spin now...I hop on....HOLY HELL they're UNREAL!!!! As I pull back up to the door, I say out loud, jokingly, "Man, I'd trade you my Agility + $500 for this thing..." He replies w/ "done deal, and you have until June 10th to give me the $500" and sticks out his hand :o. Now, I love my scoot, but I have a sh** ton of hills to go up on the way to and from work, and top speed now is 20mph if I'm lucky up the hills. The decals are removed from the Super 8, and I don't have the desire to really go over 45-50 at any given time, which I can do now on my Agility on level ground and downhill.....but, as I just said, the up hills KILL ME! What would you guys do? Take the deal or keep modifying my scoot? ???
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I would take the deal! You have your motorcycle license though right?
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I would take the deal! You have your motorcycle license though right?
That's the problem...I don't and wasn't really planning on getting one this year....That's why I was hoping without the decals and me keeping it around 45, like I do on my Agility, I'd get away with it....I kinda feel like I'm asking for trouble, but I really hate the 20mph hills! What exactly could I do w/ my Agility to help w/ the hills without screwing it up?
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one more thing....I have a friend who rides a Piaggio 150, w/ the decals stripped....he's been on his for 2+ years and never had a problem....no motorcycle license or reg, which you don't need in CT...
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...wow, that's a tough call...the S8 150 is an awesome ride...
..your states laws are like here in NC...
..it translates to a half-dozen citations if you get caught..and the fact that after that, you're no longer "invisible" to the po-po....they might take your ride, i dunno...
...speed limit for 49 cc scoots here is 35 mph...so it's always a risk...
..lighter roller weights..4.5-4.7gr....a 1500 main torque spring and +50% fly clutch springs will help....some....
..keep your tire air pressures up, your oil changed often, and maintain proper valve clearances...
..free-flow air filter, less restrictive exhaust and up-sizing the main jet in your carburetor will also help ...some...
..you can install a larger carburetor, and that will help...some....
..i'm still at the mercy of the big hills and stiff headwinds, even with the things mentioned above, except for the exhaust and the 1500 spring, i've done them all...it's just the nature of the lil 50 4t beast...
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If you get caught you could face a multitude of charges . No m/c indorcement , no registration , improper or no tags , insurance , inspection etc. You also might have your scooter seized or impounded . Not to mention that every rider who cheats the system gives the lawmakers more excuses to require 50cc and under to have to go through all the hassles of motorcycle ownership . The dealer who is stripping the badging off the 150's should be procecuted IMO .
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The dealer who is stripping the badging off the 150's should be procecuted IMO
..i stopped by a local dealer a few weeks ago, and a guy had just bought a chinese 150...
..i asked, "Don't those have to be tagged before they can leave the lot?"..
..they kinda laughed, and replied, "there's ways around that"...
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Just get it, and then work on getting your license and register the thing when you're ready.
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...agreed...
..we'll miss you in the 50cc boards, but life goes on...............
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all the 150 decals have been stripped off
No need to leave the 50cc board, he will have the fastest "50" here.
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...i like the styling of the S8...
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I don't care for the blue and yellow color scheme, however, the black and red is sexy!!!
(http://www.kymcousa.com/showroom/scooters/super8150/SUPER8-150_08-06.jpg)
(http://www.poolemoto.co.uk/acatalog/super8.jpg)
(http://www.scooters-bs.de/fahrzeuge/kymco_super_8_125_seite.jpg)
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..yeah, that's red-hot.....
:o
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With all the bases you guys covered it comes down to the deal... Take it! the 4t S8 is perhaps the Best 150cc for the money. The only draw back would be an impound. It would have to be reg.insc. before leaving the yard, and most likely be broken all over the place from the "tow"
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And if its red, you should do it ASAP. Cuz we all know that red is faster.
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It attracts Bulls tho!
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....rrrred-hhhhot.......
..that's what that is....
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So after reading what everyone wrote in response, I decided to not do the deal. Yea sure, I could get my liciense and reg it, but in the end, one of my main reasons for getting a scooter was to NOT have to worry about doing just that. I'll take the $500 and put it into Babe....get the new springs, new rollers, update the air flow..etc....
So, with that said, I'm going to be asking a ton of questions over the next few weeks....slinger, I know you posted some links for me to get me started for springs and such, any chance you, or someone, can send me a DIRECT link to exactly what I need for faster up hill mods?
Thanks again for everyones replies! It's a tough deal to let go, but last thing I need is to have a mountain of charges and no scooter!
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"http://www.scooterworks.com/NCY_Compression_Spring_1000_-_P5957.cfm"
"http://www.scooterworks.com/NCY_Compression_Spring_1500_-_P5958C583.cfm"
"http://www.scooterworks.com/NCY_Compression_Spring_1000_-_P5957.cfm"
"http://www.scooterworks.com/NCY_CVT_Clutch_Springs_1500_-_P5955C583.cfm"
"http://enviromoto.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=6250262"
"http://enviromoto.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=8025586"
"http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/748-18-28-kevlar-belt.html"
"http://www.scootertronics.com/hipeexgy650.html"
"http://www.provoscooter.com/scooters/keihin-round-main-jet-99101-393.html"
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Good decision Brian, 500 will go a long way for your "babe". However, Slinger posted up some uhhh not so noisy exhaust pipes. I want mine to make a loud sound, so i'm ordering me one of these in the coming weeks, http://www.scootertronics.com/ncy50exhaust.html (http://www.scootertronics.com/ncy50exhaust.html)
I want people to know i'm on the road, so i need to make as much sound as i can, haha.
Also, getting a new pipe means more air flow right? Which means you would need to go up in jet size?
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Thanks slinger and shu! Shu, I live in a very quiet neighborhood, so, the quieter the better for me! ;D Sling, which of the 2 sets of springs do you recommend? I've read in some of your posts that you are running 1000's now...what's the difference? Is there a huge difference? What size main jet do you recommend? And again, thank you!
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..it's hard to say...you should ptobably get both, and experiment with different setups until you find what works best for you...
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..it's hard to say...you should ptobably get both, and experiment with different setups until you find what works best for you...
Word....thank you!
On another note...anyone else put some serious miles on your scoot today? Twas a beutius day here in CT! Have at least 120 as of now....still need to run out to the store to get me some good eatin' for tomorrow...hell's yea! ;D
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..yeah, man..
..as far as the difference in springs, a heavier torque drive spring puts more pressure against your belt, allows your scoot to stay revved higher during slow-downs, and keeps it revving higher longer during acceleration..
..stiffer fly spring makes your scoot rev higher before they engage the clutch bell...
..as far as a main jet, performing plug chops is the only way to determine that..
..as a rule of thumb, installing a free-flow filter will require 2-3 jet sizes larger, but that's not definite...
..i would say the same for installing an aftermarket exhaust..2-3 size increase...
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Did 22 miles round trip to the city and back. Shorts and tshirt plus full face helmet was pleasant.
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..i actually slept most of the day away...first time i've been able to sleep late in months....
..i work a lot...
..but i plan on riding a bit tomorrow...
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What do you do slinger?
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..i manage the maintenance department at a aluminum die casting facility...
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No wonder you didn't have any trouble getting the metal for that clutch tool. Hey you want to make me one? I'll pay you for it.
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..my problem would be finding the time to make it...
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How about the one you already have?
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...ummmm...wwwellll.....
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...ummmm...wwwellll.....
Lol its cool man, no worries.
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here's a tutorial showing how to dis-assemble your clutch without the compression tool....
"http://www.jacksscootershop.com/tutorials/clutch_installation.pdf"
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That is a good link, but personally I would rather something a little more definate to hold the spring, especially during reassembly, you don't always have a second person around to help.
However I may even use that method if I need to.
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...i'm not sure i would want to put a chain wrench on my clutch pads either...but a strap wrench would work...
...i have dis-assembled one time by myself without a compressor tool...
..don't want to do that again...
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The easiest way for me is to loosen the bell nut first. (clutch still on the scoot) Them remove the clutch, and stand on the bell w/ both feet. You can remove the nut, and press down w/ one palm, and it comes right up w/ no suprises. Unless you are working on the second six pack... Then you get a split lip to remember it by. (Not that it ever happened to me!)
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..split lip...lol..
..or a bleeding chin.......so i've heard....
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Yeah man. Just heard about it.
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here's a tutorial showing how to dis-assemble your clutch without the compression tool....
"http://www.jacksscootershop.com/tutorials/clutch_installation.pdf"
I was referring to the clutch holder to get the bolt off. I've already got the compression tool covered.
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I was referring to the clutch holder to get the bolt off
...oh!!!
...ok...
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My bad... What I do is wrap a bungee around the rear brake lever. That locks up the clutch shaft. Either use an impact to remove the nut, or use a long ratchet handle, and hit it w/ a hammer to shock it loose. either one works fine
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...that only lakes about 5 minutes to make....
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My bad... What I do is wrap a bungee around the rear brake lever. That locks up the clutch shaft. Either use an impact to remove the nut, or use a long ratchet handle, and hit it w/ a hammer to shock it loose. either one works fine
Cool, i'll try that, thanks!