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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: wordslinger on May 27, 2010, 09:16:13 PM
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...so, this Polini is 95mm...just 5mm greater than my Malossi...is it worth a try??
..how much difference could 5mm make....
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Wow, notice the notches at the end of the ramps? That is exactly what I tried doing! I bet 5mm will make a noticeable difference. I would think at least a few extra mph's! The other thing to consider is you will need a slightly longer belt to utilize the extra height.
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my thought is the same. Take 5mm off your belt and the difference is huge. Try wrapping 5mm of electric tape around your Malossi, and be sure it will fit first. I think that, and an orer-range clutch will get you close to 60mph.
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..i have a good half inch of clearance around my variator...i was thinking much bigger....
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http://www.exriders.com/archive/topic/380672-1.html (http://www.exriders.com/archive/topic/380672-1.html) Some of this gets juvinal, but there are some good points made here. It's gonna be more involved than jetting was to get the set-up correct. There are a few good ideas for sourcing the parts in here too. My comp. has still got a few bugs to work out so I can't surf around too much yet, BUT I WILL KEEP TRYING FOR YOU BRO...
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..josh, over at scooterinvasion forum spoke of this set...
...this look intriguing....
..it has a 1000 torque spring tho....
..two slightly different versions..
..less than $200.00
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The second (complete) set looks intriguing...
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...what you see thats not right with the first pic set??..
..it's 20 bucks more, but the clutch bell has that cool "N" cut into it...
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I think the "N" is the frame shape they based the Eiffel Tower on. I could be wrong!
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..i reckon ncy is a respectable brand??
...it just seem like probably a good upgrade given that i have so many miles on my scoot..and ALL it's OEM parts..
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No Doubt! 200.00 for a full cvt is outstanding. I wish you could see it all first. Ps. I blew my belt today riding wheelies for my friends kids. It's not ALL bullet proof~
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...you suck...with your wheelies and schtuff...
..ncy...good??
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"http://www.scooterworks.com/NCY_GY6_-_50cc_Performance_Tra_P9860C586.cfm"
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..the other one...
"http://www.scootertronics.com/gy6ncytrco.html"
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Theyre both from the same taiwanese company, only scooterworks is cheaper. I'd go with them. I just checked on NCY's website, scooterworks seems to be a direct US distributor for NCY, so i guess that's why they're chaeper.
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You can surely get either kit from scooter works. Remember Tronics re orders when you do. Works may have them in stock.
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...there should be a formula for determining what belt length would be needed if your variator is 5mm greater in diameter...
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Measure the circumference of each one, and add the difference to the belt length. I think...http://www.csgnetwork.com/pulleybeltcalc.html (http://www.csgnetwork.com/pulleybeltcalc.html) determine belt length from pulley size Just google that, and you will find it
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The size is: 748 18 28
...you said in another post..
...provoscooter says Malossi Kevlar Dimensions 743 X 18 X 30
..i'm assuming the 700 number is the circumference....
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I believe that is right. 700's=length 18=width 28=notch type. Gates also makes a kevlar belt, and you can direct order one at any given size. I'm trying this one as a spare as Malossi usa is out of stock on mine. http://www.gates.com/ (http://www.gates.com/) http://www.powersportsmax.com/product_info.php/products_id/14054 (http://www.powersportsmax.com/product_info.php/products_id/14054)
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..enviromoto....
..who is right??
669-18 30
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669-18 30? What is that #
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...what enviromoto had for the a50 belt size...
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3000...you got me....
;D
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Hey Slinger I lost track of the post w/ the belt size. I have compared the oem #'s and they are different. The searching I have done give me #'s taht are every where from 739-752mm for the same belt. That may be why so many others have blown belts that are claimed to be correct. I had the same trouble when i installed the Malossi Var before doing the clutch. I would suggest getting the full kit deal, and the belt that matches. It seems the most reliable way. I will look more tomorrow
..you're probably right, but who really knows what belt is correct...
..i'm beginning to wonder....
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Just take the OEM #, and google around that. you will find all sorts of claimed sizes. Take any one of them, and google that. it goes in circles w/ no clear winner. I think one of the formula programs will be the best approach to something that makes sense. If you can use 1 to get your stock size then you can work it from there to modify 1 or the other.
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...i've seen at least a half-dozen different claims....
..i'm sure they must all "work", but one size must be "optimum...
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I just realized I only got you by 4 posts. (w/ the spot) Perhaps an old belt wraped around both pulleys, and cut in the top center can give you a good idea. Going by the old # add the missing mm's to a new #
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..i gotta go ahead and get the cvt kit..
..i have 30,000 miles on my stock clutch, and my malossi variator is a little better than junk...
..ramp plate hole is not true...sliders are shot... those damaged areas on the 3 bosses are triple what they were in thos pics from a few months back...my rollers are wearing at a slight taper...
..the NCY has GOTTA be an improvement overall...
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Just a thought! Contact Malossi, and fill them in. They may do a Gratis swap, or have an idea for a Malossi over-range kit for you. Try one of the phone #'s for the headquarters in Italy as they are the ones in charge. I realize the var doesn't owe you anything, but it may be interesting to see what they say. Tech support would be my first attempt.
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...i might go ahead and do that too...it would be interesting....
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...so, i ordered the NCY cvt kit...and a kevlar belt...
..goodbye malossi and leo..and kymco oem....
..gonna have me a complete NCY cvt tomorrow....
..I owe Josh (Areomyst) a word of thanks here, as he really hooked me up on this kit....
"http://www.tsgtuning.com"
"http://www.scooterinvasion.net/index.html"
..i probably won't sleep tonight in anticipation.....
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Great stuff, wish i could do that aswell. Good luck with it and have fun installing it. The cars will be drafting you soon. ;)
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The cars will be drafting you soon
..lmao...dang, don't i wish...
..me and my youngest daughter (11) rode all over the place this evening...
..two-up, and up th' hills was a struggle at times, but i wanted an extreme comparison to before and after the kit...
:o
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Good-o, will be interesting to see the results, cars don't "draft' here, they just push. Had one come out of a show ground last week, didn't give a toss just kept on coming, passenger was horrified, driver didn't care. Four wheel drives are big enough for that.
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...what bugs the crap outta me the most, is the ones that just will not go around...they'll ride your ass for miles, even on roads with a center turning lane...backing up traffic as far as you can see...
..two or three will pass from several positions back, ans STILL they just won't go...
after about 4 or 5 miles, they finally get up enough nerve to cross the yellow line, and by then...
..you have 25 pissed-off ppl behind you blaming it all on the scooter that's RIDING THE FRIKIN' WHITE LINE THE WHOLE DAMNED TIME!!!!...
...umm....
..sorry.....
..hadda vent...
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B/c they don't know how to drive.
Anyways... i'm ordering this NCY variator within a few weeks: http://www.scootertronics.com/ncyvariator.html (http://www.scootertronics.com/ncyvariator.html)
Does your kit include the clutch as well?
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...yes...it's a compete cvt swap-out...except for the belt...
"http://www.partsforscooters.com/169-187_QMB-GY6-50cc_Transmission-Kit_2"
..cant WAIT!!!
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Congrats! ;D
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..thanx bro..... ;D