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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: briandrum on May 25, 2010, 12:17:36 PM
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So I looked on Harbor Freight Tools to see what they had for impact wrenches, and I found a 1/2" ELECTRIC on sale for $49.99. Will this do the trick to get that stubborn nut off? Reason for my concern is that I see on their site that there's different sizes for them. The link is below....I want to go pick it up in a few hours, so hopefully someone here will know! Thanks!
Brian
http://www.harborfreight.com/1-2-half-inch-electric-impact-wrench-45252.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/1-2-half-inch-electric-impact-wrench-45252.html)
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This should definitely do it. 240lbs of torque! However, i managed to do get mine off with a vise-grip c-clamp holding the drive face and and LOT of effort getting the bolt to move on the wrench. I think i need a bigger wrench.
Butttttt, that is a pretty decently priced impact wrench, i might even get it myself...
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..i will do the trick for removal...just don't use it to install the nut...
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What should I use to reinstall the nut? Just a little muscle?
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the impact well work fine its the same one I use. when puting the nut back on just dont
force it to go to tight. you want tight but dont sit there and let it spin. and maybe ounce on just a
very small drop of lock tight on the out side of the nut only.
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This is the one I use: http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=90798&submit2=find+it (http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=90798&submit2=find+it)
It works very well, and it's cordless! I think I paid $35 on sale for it. I think it's usually $45. I use it to put the nut back on as it only has about 85 ft/lbs of torque. It's plenty strong for anything I need it for though, however it wouldn't break the lug nuts loose on the car.
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Hopefully there's someone on here that can help me right now....So, a friend of mine actually had a impact wrench (http://community.craftsman.com/Craftsman-19-2V-C3-Impact-Wrench-Add-On-reviews?tab=details (http://community.craftsman.com/Craftsman-19-2V-C3-Impact-Wrench-Add-On-reviews?tab=details)) for me to borrow, so I took the cover off, and when I tried to take off the bolt, nothing happened! ??? It has plenty of juice, so battery life isn't an issue....not sure what to do at this point. I need to hit the road in an hour to get home for my sons baseball practice, and don't want to put the cover back on without having the new boss on.....anyone?
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..i use a pair of Vise-Grip vise clamps to grip the o.d. of the flywheel, and a socket and ratchet to loosen the nut....
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"o.d."....outer diameter? Tj=his is sooo frustrating because I know that all I need to do is make this one more change and I'll be hittin the road at and around 45ish! :) This is the 3rd...count it, 3rd attempt to no avail....
Another question..what do you do to make sure you don't bend the raised portions of the fly wheel? Or do you just position the vise grips in between perfectly?
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...yeah, outter diameter...the clamps will seat between the teeth of the flywheel at roughly 180 degrees ...brace the handle's releasing lever against your boot, or a block of wood, and loosen the nut with a socket and ratchet...
..the first time you loosen this nut, is going to be difficult...it's seated tightly....
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...stupid question, but you are going counter-clockwise, right?
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that's what I'm petrified of! Last thing I want to do is snap a bolt! I kid, I'm sure it'll be a pita, but it'll be worth it in the end! Thanks again...you da' man!
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..you won't break it, it'sa nut that your taking off a threaded shaft...
..now, if you were tightening instead of loosening.........
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Lol hey slinger remember when i had this same problem just 2 days ago? Haha.
I used my foot on the vise grip handle as leverage and pulled REALLLY hard on the wrench. You gotta give it a lot of effort...
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..lol, yeah...the first time you break one loose is a PAIN!!!!
..especially if you've NEVER done it before....
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So.....here I am at the inn laws..once again w/ the cover off. I'm not a stupid person, but for the life of me, I cannot figure out how to, or where to put the vise grip to get proper leverage! Someone just call me already! 860-575-8244....PLEASE! ;D
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OR, send me a photo of where I should clamp down this bitch so I cann change this thing once and for all! :)
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This is what you have right? http://www.amazon.com/Vise-11-Inch-Regular-Locking-C-Clamp/dp/B00004SBBH (http://www.amazon.com/Vise-11-Inch-Regular-Locking-C-Clamp/dp/B00004SBBH)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41XS15BDZNL._SS500_.jpg)
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Nope! :-\ just a regular pair of ole vise grips...a beer, a smoke and pissed off brain....
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..those are the ones!!
..you might have to remove the adjusting screw to get them open wide enough...
..clamp them on the outside of the teeth of the flywheel, AT ITS WIDEST POINT... with the releasing lever facing down and toward the right...
..wedge the lever / handle against your foot, and pull up, counter-clockwise on the ratchet handle...
..PULL REALLY HARD!!!!
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just a regular pair of ole vise grips...
..dammit.....have a beer my brother....
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Not sure what type of 'regular' vise grips you have slinger, ;D, but mine won't open THAT wide.....are you saying to open them up and basically clamp right on the teeth themselves? Damnit, I wish I had done this before or that the impact wrench I had worked! This is beyond frustrating!
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..i have the ones in the pic below....
just a regular pair of ole vise grips...
..i was quoting you!!..lol..
..not very "regular"...lol..
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...on the outside edge of the thing with all the teeth...lmao..
..with the vise-grip clamps...as wide as they will go....
;D
..click on pic for larger view...
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Hey slinger, what do you use to hold the clutch to remove that clutch bolt?
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..i got a piece of 1" X 1/4" cold roll steel bar at work...about 18" long...
..drilled a cpl of 3/8" holes that match the spacing between the first and third holes in the clutch bell...
..fastened a cpl of short bolts through the holes with nuts, so they wouldn't move around...
..just insert the bolts into two holes in the clutch bell, prop the bar against the ground, and remove the nut...
..some others have made a tool that's very similar to the tool they make for this purpose...there are pics somewhere around here..lol..
..I also made a tool to help disassemble the clutch, once it's been removed...
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..here's one of those pics...
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...here's the clutch compressor tool i made...
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Idk where to get metal like that :(
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..any local metal fabrication shop could hook you up...
..they'd probably give you the pieces....and for a small small fee, they might even make them for you...
..just a few dollars in materials...steel is cheap...
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I've never needed a clutch compressor to take mine apart. It takes two people without though. I break the big nut free then set the clutch on the floor or bench and squeeze it together while someone un-threads the nut the rest of the way. The same in reverse for putting it back together.
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..i tried it once, without any tool, by myself...
..took me 20 minutes to find the nut...
..it was 30 ft away on the other side of the shop...
;D :D ;D
..btw, a 1-1/2" wrench or socket fits the nut okay...
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LOL! Had that little explosion the last time I took mine apart too! I was in the house though so not as many places for the parts to hide! ;)
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...scared the hell outta me!!!!
..the damned thing clipped my chin...drew blood...
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Well, well, well....I decided to put everything back together, again, take a scoot down to Autozone to pick up the c-clamp vise grip......brought it home, took the cover off, again, and finally...and I mean FINALLY, I got it! Put everything back together...fired her up, went up the small hill to get to the flat level ground....48mph (on the speedo at least)!!!!!!!!! Thank you all for the help! Can't wait for the morning to go to work and really open her up! G'nite!
Brian
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...!!!>>> WOOO-FRIKIN-HOOO<<< !!!...
..LOVE IT when a bit of hard works pays off with SATISFACTION!!!!
;D
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Lol, autozone. Have fun!
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On my way to work, which used to take around 40-45min before last night, there are a good amount of small hills. Couldn't wait to get to the first one to see what would happen. I wish I had a way to strap either my phone or a camera to my helmet because when I looked down, my eyes almost popped out of my head....completely buried speedo! It's great to be able to keep up w/ traffic on such a busy street, you know?! So, with that said, what should be the next mod I do? I'd like to have a little more power up hill and at the take off.
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Upgrade your clutch's fly springs, and the main torque spring. That's my next upgrade as well, i'm just looking to find some metal to make a tool to open the clutch bolt lol.
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shubonker is right...try some Leo Vince blue "+ 15%" fly clutch springs, and a malossi white "1000" main torque drive spring..
..Leo Vince 4.7 gram roller weights work well with that setup too...
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Boy, my wife and son aren't going to be too happy with me! ;D I told them both yesterday, that as soon as I finish the last mod I wanted to do (the boss last night), that I'll be done and they won't have to worry about me tinkering w/ my scooter anymore.... :)
Anyway...I did a couple searches for both of the parts you listed sling, but it seems there's many different sizes for different scooters out there. Since you have the same scooter as me, could you post direct links for me? Also, after I do these mods, will there be any concern about "over-doing-it" when it comes to the engine? Do I need to change anything in terms of air flow...anything? Thanks again!
btw...the vise grips weren't that bad when trying to get the variator off, but I'm going for it and getting that impact wrench! Shu...if you have a Harbor Freight near you, they have an electric for only $49, on sale, right now....just a thought..
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"http://www.provoscooter.com/scooters.html?cat=68"
"http://www.scootertronics.com/hipescpa.html"
..here's a cpl....
;D
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"Also, after I do these mods, will there be any concern about "over-doing-it" when it comes to the engine? Do I need to change anything in terms of air flow...anything? Thanks again!" I would suggest buying 2-3 new spark plugs to check your fuel ratio. You can get into rpm's the factory main jet cannot supply enough fuel for. Put in a NEW plug, and ride at wot for 60 seconds. shut the scoot, and look at the color of the plug. It should be a toasty/tan color. If it is white you will need to up-size the main jet.
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..yeah, what z said, and as far as "over-doing"...i dunno..
..i've been pushing my scoot to it's "limits" for a long time...
..the restrictions put in place are for speed laws...
..not to inhibit damage..
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...i measured my OEM and malossi drive bosses the other day...
..stock is 1.515"...malossi is 1.4725 "...
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That's the OD right? Mine is apart right now at a buddies house, and I will get you the #'s tomorrow
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...that's the length...malossi is shorter....
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I'll just measure everything for you bro.
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...i was seriously thinkin about taking a few thousandths off it...
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Off what, and why?