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Title: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: shubonker on May 16, 2010, 07:35:49 PM
My throttle when turned half way gets me going, but when i turn it completely, it just dies down and i can't maintain anything more than 18-20mph.  This is my second day riding it!

When i rode home on my brand new 2009 Agility 50 from the dealership, there was no problems with the throttle, and i was able to hit 35mph. 

The dealership is not open until Tuesday, and i can't get enough speed to bring it home safely.  Help?
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: Shaka on May 16, 2010, 09:19:24 PM
It sounds like the main jet may be clogged.
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: shubonker on May 16, 2010, 11:25:41 PM
Is that common for a new scooter??
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: scootergrisen on May 17, 2010, 12:28:34 AM
Your not suposed to full throttle it when its new.

Run the scooter slowly when its new and not so long trips. let it cool down once in a while.
for the first 1000 km dont full throttle it.

Heres a example :
0-150 km > max 1/3 throttle
150-500 km > max 1/2 throttle
500-1000 km > max 3/4 throttle

Also dont hold the throttle at the same position all the time, change the position a little once in awhile.
And let it cool down sometimes and dont do long trips.

After the first 1000 km you can full throttle it.
If you do this the motor will get a longer life i have read.

Also warm up the engine before you ride by letting it idle for 3 minuts if you start the engine from cold.
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: Shaka on May 17, 2010, 12:57:12 AM
That is good advice on the break-in procedure.  I would still think it would run fine on full throttle.  I suspect that being new something has lodged itself in the main jet.  There may have been some left over material from manufacturing that has worked it's way to the carb?!  I would think a call to your dealer is in order.
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: shubonker on May 17, 2010, 01:36:59 AM
Thanks, i have it in a friend's garage.  Thank god i didn't have to pay for towing service!

I will bring it back to the dealership on Tues when they open (what kind of place operates tues-sat?)

I really hope its as simple as a clogged jet.  And hopefully they don't charge me for this. 
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: blue on May 17, 2010, 02:55:06 AM
after the frist 200 to 400 miles it would be good to do the frist oil change.
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: shubonker on May 17, 2010, 03:10:50 AM
I've only got about 60miles on the thing.  I'm so bummed out too because i LOVED every minute of riding it.  Except when the problem started happening, then it was just embarrassing.
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: Shaka on May 17, 2010, 03:17:30 AM
If you don't want to wait till Tuesday.  It's fairly easy to pull the carb bowl off and check/clean the main jet.  I think Wordslinger has some pics of it posted up somewhere on here.
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: shubonker on May 17, 2010, 03:42:19 AM
I already feel like i'm intruding by having my bike in his garage, so i don't want to bother him anymore.  He lives in the city and i'm in Brooklyn, which is a bridge away.  Can't cross that bridge going 18mph... so yea, basically can't really bring it home to work on it.   I'll have to just suck it up and wait til tuesday. 
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: Dark13 on May 17, 2010, 12:41:27 PM
you know if its not the main jet

it could be the valve adjustment when my valves got off adjustment that was one of the symptoms but in any case you just bought it you should have to pay for any work on it
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: wordslinger on May 17, 2010, 01:01:39 PM
(what kind of place operates tues-sat?)

..most cycle shops in this area are closed on monday's also...

..I agree that it's probably jst some left-overs that have either clogged the jet, or not allowing the slider to move up completely...

...as far as breaking the scoot in..ppl have different opinions on the process...

..I have ridden my scoot wide-th'-f*ck-open since day one....

..currently over 47,000 km on a '08 i rode out the dealer's door...

..good luck, post back and Welcome to th' Forum!


peace
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: shubonker on May 17, 2010, 01:54:19 PM
Dark13,  thanks for advice, are you saying i SHOULD, or SHOULDN'T pay for work on it?  (confused)

Wordslinger, Thanks, there is so much good info on this forum!  Admittedly i have been riding my a50 pretty hard the minute i got it out the door. 

BTW, what brand/type of engine and gear oil do you guys recommend?  I just picked up some Maxum4 Blend Oil 10w40 for motor, and Gear Saver Hypoid Gear Oil 90w.   

Here's my A50 when it was still on showroom floor next to an A125.
(http://i44.tinypic.com/59t0df.jpg)
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: wordslinger on May 17, 2010, 07:29:16 PM
...looks just like mine when it was new...nice and shiny and blue....

..go ahead and change your oil...run a petroleum based oil for a cpl thousand kms...then i'd switch to a synthetic blend for a thousand km or so then go to full synthetic....

..and good 80-90 wt gear oil should do y'...

..any repair work should be covered under your warranty right now....



peace
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: Dark13 on May 17, 2010, 11:15:05 PM
 :D sorry typo i meant to say shoudnt  ;D
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: shubonker on May 17, 2010, 11:45:12 PM
So i realized my feet doesnt completely touch the ground, how do i lower the seat?
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: wordslinger on May 18, 2010, 10:52:00 AM
So i realized my feet doesnt completely touch the ground, how do i lower the seat?

..punch a cpl holes in your tires...

 ;D

..no, don't do that

..you ca adjust the stiffness of your rear shock, and that's about it...
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: sidthesloth on May 18, 2010, 11:08:02 AM
Some upholsterers will remove the seat cover and trim the foam to give the bike a lower seat height, if you look around there are some who are highly regarded in this.
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: wordslinger on May 18, 2010, 01:15:17 PM
...dang...i need my foam...
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: shubonker on May 18, 2010, 02:39:30 PM
Hmmm i like foam... But i think i'd rather be able to plant my feet on the ground.

So status update on my a50; just brought the scoot over from my friend's garage to the outside of the dealer.  Waiting at a nearby starbucks until they open.  Going from garage to the dealer was extremely embarassing... And to add insult to injury, its pouring rain. 
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: shubonker on May 18, 2010, 04:11:12 PM
Okay, so the dealer took it back for repair and its under warranty so i didn't have to pay them anything.  (sigh of relief).  They said it should be ready by tomorrow, and hopefully it won't be raining and no more problems!


BTW: Has anyone tried taking those stickers on the front off?  Those side decals.  They're kind of ugly looking but i don't want to take them off if they're going to leave a nasty sticker residue. 
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: Shaka on May 18, 2010, 04:36:04 PM
I'm glad the dealer is taking care of you, as they should!  The stickers should come off fairly easily.  Try a heat gun or hair dryer to soften them up.  WD-40 works great at removing the sticky residue!  Keep us posted on what the dealer finds!
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: wordslinger on May 18, 2010, 05:58:06 PM
...i left the front stickers...but peeled the back stickers off...

..everybody kept thinking they said "Guilty"....
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: shubonker on May 18, 2010, 06:08:03 PM
...i left the front stickers...but peeled the back stickers off...

..everybody kept thinking they said "Guilty"....

LOL, yea i want to take the back ones off too, for that very reason...

I'm excited to get my scoot back tomorrow, i feel like an excited school boy...... And oh yea, i've got my new variator boss and some rollers coming in on thursday, as well as gloves with knuckle armor and a jacket with CE armor for back/elbow/shoulder.  I like to be safe  :)

Links to them:
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/39/20195/ITEM/Fieldsheer-High-Flow-II-Mesh-Jacket.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/39/20195/ITEM/Fieldsheer-High-Flow-II-Mesh-Jacket.aspx)
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/11030/ITEM/Z1R-Surge-Gloves.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/11030/ITEM/Z1R-Surge-Gloves.aspx)
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: wordslinger on May 19, 2010, 10:10:00 PM
...shub..was that A125 much bigger than the A50?
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: shubonker on May 19, 2010, 11:05:57 PM
Nope, they seemed almost identical in size.  However, the a125 has a one piece seat so it doesn't have the back rest that folds up. 

Anyway, called my dealer today to see what's up with my scoot, and they said they haven't even gotten to it yet... Majorly disappointed at their service. 
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: wordslinger on May 19, 2010, 11:21:40 PM
...hope this ain't going to be one of those horror stories.....

...think it was "blue" ....had his at th' dealer for months....

..i your case tho...if it's what we all suspect, it shouldn't take long to fix...i could do it in less than an hour...
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: shubonker on May 19, 2010, 11:24:38 PM
Oh no, i wouldn't stand for that.  I'll keep calling and calling, and bugging and nagging.
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: wordslinger on May 19, 2010, 11:26:08 PM
...did you mention to them that you are a member of this forum?

...you should....
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: zombie on May 19, 2010, 11:44:32 PM
..punch a cpl holes in your tires...   Love it!   Tell your dealer we are all waiting to see how they do... (No Pressure)
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: wordslinger on May 19, 2010, 11:51:42 PM
..POWER TO THE PEOPLE, BABY!!!


..KymcoForum.com IS the power!!!!!!

..there are other forums where ppl are doing some awesome things with their scoots...


..but here, we dig deep into problems that the everyday rider experiences....


..we should petition KYMCO for sponsorship....


..yes??...
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: zombie on May 19, 2010, 11:56:33 PM
Like a new turbo charged computer for the first to reach 3,000 posts? Yeah Baby!
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: wordslinger on May 19, 2010, 11:57:57 PM
..go back on vacation, and i'll take that...
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: zombie on May 20, 2010, 12:00:36 AM
I'll spot you 500!
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: Lammy1000 on June 01, 2010, 10:17:57 PM
Zombie,

I hate to sound like an a$$ kisser, but you helped to cure my very sick Helix (my wife owns a Kymco People 150 - Great Bike).  The incorrect install of the sliders was caught by you.  Thanks again.
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: premnas on June 02, 2010, 03:37:17 AM
...i left the front stickers...but peeled the back stickers off...

..everybody kept thinking they said "Guilty"....

Lmao!  I remember the first time I saw an Agility...  I thought it said "Guilty", too.  I even Googled Kymco "Guilty", hoping that Google would offer the correct suggestion.
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: zombie on June 02, 2010, 03:45:44 AM
Kiss away Lammy. It wasn't really me though... Others had posted the same suggestion, I just caught the fact from something else you posted. It's all about getting a frustrated scooter owner riding again.
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: sidthesloth on June 02, 2010, 03:54:26 AM
Right on zombie. A little frustration makes success that little bit sweeter.
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: zombie on June 02, 2010, 03:56:48 AM
It's all in the getting it done w/ your own two mitts. I have taken apart everything I own at one point or another.
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: wordslinger on June 02, 2010, 09:16:39 PM
I even Googled Kymco "Guilty",


...lmao...

 ;D :D :) :D ;D

...no...you didn...lmfao...

Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: premnas on June 02, 2010, 10:56:58 PM
I even Googled Kymco "Guilty",


...lmao...

 ;D :D :) :D ;D

...no...you didn...lmfao...



Yes, I actually did...  I mean, I didn't really think it was called a "Guilty" but I'd seen one in passing, and couldn't make out what the badging actually read.  So, I Googled what was in my mind's eye, hoping that Google would offer a suggestion: "Did you mean...".
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: wordslinger on June 02, 2010, 10:57:59 PM
..dang...well, what did google say??


..go to jail!!..go directly to jail!!!
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: premnas on June 03, 2010, 12:50:07 AM
It's an Agilty before the mods... It's a Guilty after the mods!   ;D

Lol, a recent search revealed this:

"Aug 29, 2009 ... And Kymco already had their own example of unfortunate logo typography: the Agility, which a recent Craigslist seller listed as a "Guilty" because he couldn't read the logo."

from here: http://2strokebuzz.com/2009/08/29/kymco-yager-gt200i-pocphils-review (http://2strokebuzz.com/2009/08/29/kymco-yager-gt200i-pocphils-review)

(Major thread derail!)
Title: Re: Throttle Problem with new A50! HELP!
Post by: wordslinger on June 03, 2010, 12:58:43 AM
 ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D