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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: wordslinger on May 11, 2010, 01:41:31 AM
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...i don't know where to start, really....
..i'll just say that the wait and the worry were worth it all...
..you guys might want one of these....
:o
peace
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That's all we get?! No pics or nothing?! ??? >:(
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...i broke my cam th other day....
...but this is one of the best purchases i've ever made for my scoot's performance....
.. i'm jetting at 60 degrees...had to increase the stock 95 jet up to a @ 101.5 jet right off th' bat....
..2 chops got me there...
..it's gonna be a bit lean in th' mornin's 45 degree ride to work, but i do believe i'm in the zone...
..may have to go up 1/2 to one more size....but the increase in hp is already apparent...
..i'm happy.......again...
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Broke your cam? AND your happy? The Carb. I get! ?????????
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Dang, what's the deal with the cam? Darn, 4-strokes again! ;)
Sounds like you''re having fun with the carb! You'll have to give a full performance update after you get some miles on it! Some pics too! ;)
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And tell us about fuell consumption too :D.
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Broke your cam? AND your happy? The Carb. I get! ?????????
..cam-er-a...lol..i just thot about that...lmao...
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Dang, what's the deal with the cam? Darn, 4-strokes again! ;)
Sounds like you''re having fun with the carb! You'll have to give a full performance update after you get some miles on it! Some pics too! ;)
..yeah, it has an adjustable needle....sweeeet...still playin with that...
..gotta buy me a new cam tho....
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And tell us about fuell consumption too :D.
..ummm fuel consumption....sucks gas!!...lol..sorry stic, but i probly wasn't getting 45 mpg before the carb...
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f$%k ... this is like a car ... and you didn't get a new engine or other things ...
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Slinger! You normally give us soo much detailed info. You explain the facts so that even a cave man could do it! Now all we get is "CARB GOOD!"? I'm thinking it is sooo good you don't want to sit around posting...
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...patience grasshopper.....
..twas late last evening when i finally washed up, and I must work today....
..stll not through with the jetting, but i'm in a safe zone...
...carb goood.....
;)
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Conitchieee Waaaaa Mother Fjutcher! Who's your Baby?
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..okay so, here it is...
..this 20 mm carb is th' bomb!! (have i said that already?)
..it has a 5 position needle, with a distinctively different taper than my original carb..
..it's gradual at the bottom, then has a step in th middle, then gradual toward the top..
..the diaphram and slider are beefier, and it has a stronger spring..
..the carb's intake port is vertically oval shaped, as opposed to circular on the original..
..the main jet is TINY in comparison to my original, about half the size...
..came in at .095mm..(waaay lean) and is now at 1.02mm... (spot-on)..
..i'm at 3 rotations on the idle screw mix, and in the middle notch of the needle...
..installation was pretty much plug-n-play...
..my scoot is now quicker off the line...noticeably!!..
..which is no small feat, as a dress out around 225 lbs..
..maintained flat land speed is still variable according to the wind,(not nearly as sensitive as before tho) and edges closer toward 50 mph than before..which is my ultimate goal...in a draft, i have no problem keeping up with 45 mph traffic now...which is awesome..
..i've consistently topped out downhill at 95 kmh, with or against the wind, which i couldn't do without the blown air induction on the original carb..
..i am at the limits of my cvt's capabilities...need the over-range variator for any more top end speed...
peace
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Sounds like a great upgrade Slinger!
Very descriptive explanation of it also!
So what's next? The BBK, over-range, reduction gears? ;) ;D
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...no bbk until something breaks...
..next step is the variator, without a doubt..i need a new one, and i might as well go bigger...
..i'm still mot sure about the gears, as i don't want to lose bottom end take-off speed...
..wondering if i could turn enough rpms to make gears effective without a bbk...
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With the bigger carb and free-flowing exhaust you might be able to turn the gears. It's all in the cvt tuning! Might be worth a try
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..true, and even if it didn't, i'd be set for when i do go with a bbk...
..imma get me the bigger variator...might order it tomorrow....
..seems such a waste of capabilities for that to be my limiting factor....
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...btw, thanx zombie, for turning me onto that carb...
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..another btw, it turns out that this is a CVK brand carb...
..haven't googled them yet, so anybody had any experience with one?
peace
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No doubt my Brother! That overrange var will give you the same effect as going w/ a gear set only you will lose nothing on the bottom. It will give you a few more mph on top.
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KEIHIN CVK carb - testing vac. slide function (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0RQ47PNfYA#lq-hq) It's a keihin Cvk is the model
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...wwwwowwww....that's f*kng awesome....that explains a LOT!!!....
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No doubt my Brother! That overrange var will give you the same effect as going w/ a gear set only you will lose nothing on the bottom. It will give you a few more mph on top.
..i'm only looking for a few... ;D
..when i bought this ride, it would do 37mph..at BEST downhill with a wind....
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Every reliable mph is a blessing.
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Every reliable mph is a blessing.
.."reliable" being the key....i'm in it for th' long run...
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...so, i decided to try the 5.5 gram rollers with the bigger carb....
..not too bad...
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..i think i could tune the needle to increase take-off speeds, and i really felt the torque difference at..and just off WOT...
..tomorrow is another day...
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That's where you want to feel it. Bottom end torque is good, but feeling it at the top is best!
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..it was an awakening brother....
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...yeah, so i'm able to generate a bit more horsepower, but if i can't get a greater ratio between the drive and the driven pulley's, then it's all in vain...
..a belt can only ride so high on the drive pulley...
..a few engine rpms and a bit of increase in torque doesn't matter if you can't put it to the pavement...
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.....however, the 4.7s are over-all better....
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.....however, the 4.7s are over-all better....
In bed!
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...yeah, i didnt get that....
..reckon i ain't gettin a lot lately...
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...its greeeen....
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Griffon wanted to see in bed after all our posts. Don't ask me why!
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..i know right!!...didn get it...
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