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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: sticlistul on May 04, 2010, 02:53:25 PM
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In manual it says that the ratio is 1:11.05 ,that means when rear wheel spins one time the clutch bell should spin 11.05 times ... but at mine I have to spin the bell 13.6or7 for a complete wheel spin .... so that means I have an other gear ratio ? That should explain why most of chinese 4t scoot are faster than mine :(
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..i believe mine is 13.*...
..i kinda remember counting once....sssso......
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..and i've not come across a faster chinese 4t yet....
;D
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just counted and mine it a little over 11
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just counted and mine it a little over 11
..dang...i might be wrong...gonna check tomorrow..
..just ain't got it in me to open that can of worms tonite...lol...
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...just couldn't stand it.....i hadda check...
..13.6 revolutions of the clutch to one revolution of the rear tire...
;D
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just counted and mine it a little over 11
..now, i wanna know... how i can get your gear ratio....
..cause that would be frickin' awesome!!!!
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Not certain but I think Enviromoto has a Naraku gear kit that will fit the Agility. Most of the replacements are a pretty low ratio comparatively though. You might need to "put a kit on dat bitch" first! ;)
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..how come dark13 has 11 to 1......
..Dark, did you buy your scoot new?
..have you been in the gearbox??
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When I was researching the one's on the ZX50 before I did mine I found very little and conflicting info! It seems there really is no standard ratio for these scoots. I think they may have done different ratios for different markets and model years.
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...theory is, if I knew what d13s gearbox had in it, i could find that gearset, and put it in mine...
..muaah-haa-haaaa....
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Very true! I found a website that lists the actual number of teeth on each cog. It was hard to find I'll see If I can remember where it was.
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...that gearset with an over-range variator, and the 20mm carb...
...that's where i need to be...
;D
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Very true! I found a website that lists the actual number of teeth on each cog. It was hard to find I'll see If I can remember where it was.
dude, that'd be awesome....
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Not a whole lotta luck in my quick search other that I think the intermediate shaft is a 53/14. I can't find the # of teeth on the input and output shafts. Will keep looking.
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1700
:P
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Not a whole lotta luck in my quick search other that I think the intermediate shaft is a 53/14. I can't find the # of teeth on the input and output shafts. Will keep looking.
..53/14...for the A50??
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That's what I found for the intermediate shaft. Just searched the Kymco part #.
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I'm not coming up with anything. I did find the gearing for the A50 Basic, whatever that is. It has a final reduction of 6.65:1!!!!
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...another thought...
..i'm gettin pretty frikin good speeds...
..is the spec of 11:1 or 16.6:1 actually the ratio of the clutch revolutions to the rear tire revolutions....
..it is isn't it?
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I'm not coming up with anything. I did find the gearing for the A50 Basic, whatever that is. It has a final reduction of 6.65:1!!!!
..you made exclamations...
..is that a good thing??..the 6.65:1?
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That's just a super low ratio. Either the tooth counts where mis-printed or there is something completely different with that model. I would doubt you would even be able to get moving with that gear! The primary reduction was 16/52 and secondary 15/51.
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...wonder if that's a 2t...
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I didn't look all that closely, but it could be. Even still that's a super low ratio. I'm only running an 8.6:1 ratio.
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...probably a mis-print....
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yea i bought mine new i am pretty sure i only got 11 turns of the bell to one full turn of the tire
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That is exactly where the reduction ratio is measured, at the clutch... Not the engine.
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thanks guys ,that means I'm not crazy ... my ratio is 13.6:1
slinger I traveled with a bunch of chinese 4t scoot and I was the slowest it's verry frustrating beacouse my scoot KYMCO has a reputation to prove\protect :( (I'm prod that I have a kymco )but guess what.... chinese gears are suposed to fit in my scoot so I think I will give them a try .I found a set of chinese gears (primary and secondary) with 21$ when I find money I definetly gona put them in .
So I think thats the reason why agility are using lighter rollers then other chinese who use around 7 or 8gr rollers ,with stock engine.
I've read on a forum a seller tryed to test an 8:1 ratio with a 80cc kit and it was a total failure ,the scoot didn't go anywere
I've heard about agility 125 that they have ratio 6:1 :o ask someone from the other section to see if it's true .
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..stic, you can get 80kmh without a gear change....
..fill me in again on what mods you've done...
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...STILL.....
...dammit.....
... Dark13 has 11:1.......
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i think kymco just has really bad quality control
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..i dunno, but i think i would benefit from 11:1....
...it seems adjustments into the +15-18 percent range work well for my scoot...
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Yeah Stic. You need to get the power up on the engine before going up on the gears.
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Ok I will remember this zombie
http://magazin.smartmotor.ro/index.php/Piese-de-schimb-pentru-scutere/Transmisie/143-Pinioane-transmisie.html (http://magazin.smartmotor.ro/index.php/Piese-de-schimb-pentru-scutere/Transmisie/143-Pinioane-transmisie.html) this is the site with gears ,in roumanian.
slinger I just derestrict scoot from CDI and boss ,and put new 4.5 gr rollers (I've asked for 5gr but the seller send me 4.5 ,it's an idiot) and I get 75-76km\h on flat on my spedometer ,but I think it's something wrong with my speedometer I think it's to optimistic...
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..sticl, the greatest performance increase i have made on my scoot was the Malossi Multivar variator...
..you need that in your life my brother...
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..it comes with a white (1000) torque drive (contra) spring and 6 gr rollers which are too heavy...
..the malossi, with your 4.5 rollers, along with a free-flow air filter and a larger diameter main jet in your carb, will get you bustin' all the chinese 50 cc scoots ass...
...add some blue (+15%) Leo Vince fly clutch springs,and and you'll bust them off the line too...
..at least i do.....
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..i dunno, but i think i would benefit from 11:1....
...it seems adjustments into the +15-18 percent range work well for my scoot... I believe you would gain 5mph w/ taller gears. Heavier on the clutch would keep some of the low end. Once you hook up the carb, and have extra power, you will return to the same take off but have the extra top. Just a thought Bro!
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I know about malossi ,I've heard just kind words about it , but until I have a stabil place of work it remains just a dream ... now I work in construction with my dad in order to sustain me in college ... I can't wait to finish this college and get the hell out of this f%^king country
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Dude! I HATE/LOVE where I live. Honestly I am affriad to leave the US! If you could trade places w/ me, and I could be Exonarted from being a jerk... I will give you my keys in the morning. Do they eat monkeys in Romania? I'm not sure I could eat a monkey! Although I did marry a southern bell.
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..i dunno, but i think i would benefit from 11:1....
...it seems adjustments into the +15-18 percent range work well for my scoot... I believe you would gain 5mph w/ taller gears. Heavier on the clutch would keep some of the low end. Once you hook up the carb, and have extra power, you will return to the same take off but have the extra top. Just a thought Bro!
..yeah, i'm kinda hesitant to do much of anything until i get my carb...
....if i EVER get my carb.....
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wow USA it's just a dream for me I hope it will turn in reality someday ... My dream it's to have a place to work ,where your work it's payd like it should and you can enjoy with your money... here you could do that just if you have money ... A teacher here earn 200$ ,a soldier 250$ (if you go in Afganistan, last year youve earn around 10000-12000$ in 6 months ). The food price and other things are like anywhere in europe . taxes are high but what they give back it's nothing .My grandmother pension it's 130$ , Child Benefit in clases 1-12 are 13$ after that in college you get nothing ... .And if you think it can't get worse you are wrong ... it might be posible to get like greece with sever taxes ...
SORRY for offtopic but that was just to give you an ideea about how it's here ... and zombie for short period (just when you have money) it might be posible beacouse Romania it's a beautifull place with mountains ,sea and other things from nature other than that ....nothing
On topic : Most of chinese scoot of 50cc are runing with that ratio 11.07:1 so I don't see why it will doesn't work on agility
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...hmm..i guess we are kinda blessed...
..and don't worry too much about going off topic...lol..happens all the time...
..besides, this is your thread ;D
..most chinese scoots also have the short gearbox..
..the A50s transmission is longer....
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what do you mean with longer gearbox ? you say about wheel there are 10'' and 12" ?
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..the distance from the crankshaft to the gearbox input shaft is greater...