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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: sticlistul on April 27, 2010, 11:34:41 AM
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I've just ordered a kit of 100 cc from http://magazin.smartmotor.ro/index.php/Piese-de-schimb-pentru-scutere/Kituri-de-tuning/45-Kit-tuning-100cc.html (http://magazin.smartmotor.ro/index.php/Piese-de-schimb-pentru-scutere/Kituri-de-tuning/45-Kit-tuning-100cc.html) . I don't know if you understand something from there beacouse it's in roumanian . I've read opinions from thouse who already mounted the kit on diferit 139QMB engine scoot and they are very happy with it . This kit makes 80cc kit's look like 50 cc :)) .The good part is that you can use the stock head and carb (but when I find some more money I will buy a 20-21 mm carburaetor) . Good help us to be well :D
I hope I manage to mount it without damage the engine ...
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Well Sticlistul I do wish you luck. I hope you have a set of larger jets, or are willing to drill yours out. You will need extra fuel to go along w' the big kit. We are all here for you bro., so post if you need help!
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Thanx for suport , it's obvious that I need a new main jet ,the question it's about slow jet and needle screw ...I will see after I get the kit ... thats my only fear ,carb tuning ...
An other thing that I need is heavy rollers ,I'm thinking at 8 or 11 gr , the 80 cc kits what weight are using?
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Will you have to bore out the case to accept the larger cylinder? Will the stock head really allow enough flow through the valves to accommodate twice the displacement? I'll be keeping my eye on this build! Good luck!!!!
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I've just ordered a kit of 100 cc from http://magazin.smartmotor.ro/index.php/Piese-de-schimb-pentru-scutere/Kituri-de-tuning/45-Kit-tuning-100cc.html (http://magazin.smartmotor.ro/index.php/Piese-de-schimb-pentru-scutere/Kituri-de-tuning/45-Kit-tuning-100cc.html) . I don't know if you understand something from there beacouse it's in roumanian . I've read opinions from thouse who already mounted the kit on diferit 139QMB engine scoot and they are very happy with it . This kit makes 80cc kit's look like 50 cc :)) .The good part is that you can use the stock head and carb (but when I find some more money I will buy a 20-21 mm carburaetor) . Good help us to be well :D
I hope I manage to mount it without damage the engine ...
..wh-wh-wh-whaaat???
...wow...
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R.I.P. slinger, Stic, You MAY need a pilot jet. The stock head may prevent you from needing it tho. W/ the stock carb/head/exhaust you may get by fairly easily on this kit. A 4t is not that sensitive to air flow thru the cylinder. It takes HUGE changes in the valves to require the rest to need modification. My bet is if the jug fits, the rest will be a breeze.
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R.I.P. slinger, Stic, You MAY need a pilot jet. The stock head may prevent you from needing it tho. W/ the stock carb/head/exhaust you may get by fairly easily on this kit. A 4t is not that sensitive to air flow thru the cylinder. It takes HUGE changes in the valves to require the rest to need modification. My bet is if the jug fits, the rest will be a breeze.
...NEVVERRRR!!!!...
...imma put my new carb in, (if it'll ever get here)..
..already working on the blown air mod again...
..i'm looking for 50 on the flats.....i think it'll do it...
..i'm gettin close to that now, if i get a good head of steam onto a flat, i can maintain the speed...
..then i'm heading back into the cvt with a new variator and belt...
..THEN, imma look at some pipes.......
..I wish you luck stic!!!...
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hey word have you thought of mounting a small fan to a filter then to the carb?
like this one
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k73/dark13_photo/0428101845a.jpg)
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k73/dark13_photo/0428101845.jpg)
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Not too sure But i think the carb. at idle will move more air than the fan. The cooling fans on the kymco "stock" move enough to swell the shroud.
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just a thought i had
but don't doubt that little fan its pretty strong and there are better ones on the market that are about the same size i just posted the pics as an example
i got that fan from work we used it to cool 12 reptile cages and it could drop the temp from 100 degrees to 80 in about 5 - 10 mins in each cage
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...not to be hi-jacking stics thread, but the fan, even if strong enough, would create a constant cfm of air flow...
..the cooling fan's cfm (cubic feet per minute) varies with the fan's speed....
..which works out, because i don't need as much air at idle as I would at WOT....
...good train of thought tho...
;D
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I have a question what gear ratio kymco agility has ? 1:11.07 or 1:14 ?
I have an other ideea with thouse little fan , I'm thinking about cooling the engine with it ,beacouse this 100cc set will heating with at least 20 degrees celcius in plus
I've heard about an other problem with transmision, with that set the variator is overheating and literaly melt the belt after 70km of riding ( the man was having malosi x-kevlar belt ...not any ordinari washing machine belt)
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Type Two-stage reduction
Reduction rato... 1st 0.8-3.1
2nd 11.05
..gleaned from the A50 service manual...
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I would think the fella melting the belt simply had too short a belt to begin with. There is no way the kit could generate enough heat/torque to melt a belt. I wouldn't give it a second thought unless you ordered the same belt as him.
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...wonder where's stic....
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He's been pushing it home since saturday! Just messi'n w/ you sticlistul
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...dang z, you know how crappy his roads are...
..hope he didn fall inna hole...........
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you mean instead of pushing he may be yelling for a bologna sandwich from a pot hole? Man I sure hope a Shepard or a Snake herder passes by on his way to market! STUL... I'm sending help! Hang in there Bro!
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After a trip of 200km with a few palls who have this kit mounted ,I said no way to put that thing in my kymco ,the kit it's arrived but I think I don't even go to get it from mail office . The reasons are with that kit the engine is overheating (my palls need to stop at every 25 km or so ) the power was obvious but I'ts not worthing .One of my friends since he put that kit all pieces start to broke ,gears , variator ,strange noises from engine ... and I don't want troble .I'm glad beacouse I could see those kits at work (on chinese scoot with gy6 engines ) before I pay the money for it .I prefer to stay with stock engine and reach 45000km like slinger than put that thing in and do ...who knows 2000km and change all parts on that scoot... So I think It's better to dont look for cheap kit ( this one was 55$)
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It sounds like the same situation as sidthesloth. His kit would have put his scoot in the junk pile if he didn't know how to look for the problems. I say it all the time... There are 2 types of kits out there. The High Quality/dollar kits that do work well, and the Inexpensive low quality "Knock off's" that do not work well. You have to spend $'s to make power. There is just no other way. If you still want to kit later on. expect to pay around 700-1000 dollars complete. You will have a more powerfull scoot that will last for years. 100-300 $'s will get you a hour or two around the yard.
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...let me just say, stic....i'm glad ur backing out....maybe you can get your money back..
..you've made the right decision brother.....
peace
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Thats the nice part I didn't pick it up from the mail (here in roumania you pay the package when you pick it up from mail ) and it wil go back to the shop...
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...wow...c.o.d. ......