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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: yankee doodle on April 02, 2010, 12:43:51 AM
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??? HI You all . I brought my Agillity 50 back to the dealer for hesatation & stalling when warming up in morning .And hesatation after that . Well guess what its the same as it was .Has anybody have any Ideas ? They wearnt to Interested today when I called and told them . They said they couldnt get it to do it last time .But they put on the work order ajusted this and that .Got there warrenty money for doing nothing .So if anyone can give me some instruction that would be cool .Thanks And If you cant .Ill bug the dealership to no end .Your pal Yankee . D
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You can drain the carb from the screw on the side of it without stripping it to see if there is any water or crap in the float chamber, but a full strip and clean is best along with a new fuel filter. Take a good look with a torch into the tank and see if there is any brown bubbles of water in the bottom if your not sure drain it while the carb is off.
Check the carb diaphram for holes.
Change your spark plug and check the cap is screwed onto the lead well.
If all this does not help you will have to check the valve clearances and do some further investigation.
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I would let the friendly dealer know they have 1 opportunity to actually correct what they were supposed to, or put a call into Kymco USA, reporting a dealer committing fraud/embezzlement. Try putting in a new spark-plug for starters. 75% of the time that will fix hesitation. Beyond that it may need a thorough carb. cleaning.
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If its when you just start it, I wouldnt worry too much it takes a few revs from the throttle to get her moving in the morning or in cold weather, once she gets going do you have that hesitation? I know when its been sitting over night or after a long day of work I start her up and have to give her some throttle a few times before she gets going! Sometimes she stalls but thats if you give it too much gas to quick or not enough, like i said once she warms up she gets to moving!
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??? ILL tryer guys and ler you know for other riders . Thanks Bros
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You can drain the carb from the screw on the side of it without stripping it to see if there is any water or crap in the float chamber, but a full strip and clean is best along with a new fuel filter. Take a good look with a torch into the tank and see if there is any brown bubbles of water in the bottom if your not sure drain it while the carb is off.
...now that sound interesting...propane or acetylene???
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...now that sound interesting...propane or acetylene???
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we call flashlights torches in the uk..Partly because we want a constant light we dont want it to flash as such... ;D
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we call flashlights torches in the uk..Partly because we want a constant light we dont want it to flash as such... ;D
..actually...flashlights don't normally flash at all...lol..dunno why we call them that.. ???
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:D ILL try the plug first .Thanks to all of you .I sure am lucky to have so many friends .Your pal Yankee D
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I got my 09 brand new last March and have put about 1300miles on it. It has always stuttered sputtered and stalled if I try to ask too much from it for the first ten minutes. It seems to be the nature of the beast so I start it up first thing and by the time I have my helmet on and stuff together it is usually ready. Even then when I hit the road it may still be uneven for the first quarter mile or so........If anyone thinks this really unusual, please speak up.
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the reason flash lights are called such is because the first ones made had a crank that you had to turn to charge the battery and it would only work for a short time and die then you would crank it it would light up then die ect so it would look like you were flashing light then when better batteries were invented people in the uk started calling them torches simply to distinguish a difference between the 2
and that concludes Dark's useless history lesson for the day class dismissed
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:( I have the same problem Codger 78 you know what IM going through .Gas is ok .Put a flashlight down the tank thats OK .Next try a plug .After that pull the carb .And clean that out .After that bug the dealership .One way or another Ill get the stalling and all the time hesitation fixed ,Thanks . Yankee . d
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I got my 09 brand new last March and have put about 1300miles on it. It has always stuttered sputtered and stalled if I try to ask too much from it for the first ten minutes. It seems to be the nature of the beast so I start it up first thing and by the time I have my helmet on and stuff together it is usually ready. Even then when I hit the road it may still be uneven for the first quarter mile or so........If anyone thinks this really unusual, please speak up.
:( I have the same problem Codger 78 you know what IM going through .Gas is ok .Put a flashlight down the tank thats OK .Next try a plug .After that pull the carb .And clean that out .After that bug the dealership .One way or another Ill get the stalling and all the time hesitation fixed ,Thanks . Yankee . d
..while it's not unusual to have to warm your scoot up for a bit...as in codger's case, i think yankee may have a bit of a problem..
..yanke..lets start over, and explain what happens step by step when you experiene these problems...
..we'll get 'r figured out...
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Step by step then . First warm up 6 to 8 mins walk away put my flag up come back sometimes shes stalled .Take off right away hesitation off and on all the way to work 6 miles .Stop at lights sometimes take off is great .Well thats it thanks for the help ! Your pal Yankee . D
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Step by step then . First warm up 6 to 8 mins walk away put my flag up come back sometimes shes stalled .Take off right away hesitation off and on all the way to work 6 miles .Stop at lights sometimes take off is great .Well thats it thanks for the help ! Your pal Yankee . D
..have you checked / cleaned your air filter?
..you may have nothing more wrong than your idle mixture..
..have you tried adjusting the idle mix screw on the lower left-hand side of your carb?
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Is the only purpose of raising the carb needle for idle?
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:-X Not yet gotta get through Easter first .Got it in mind . Thanks for the advise .Ill get back to you . Yankee . D
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Re: 09 Agillity stalls & hesitates
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2010, 10:45:49 AM » Quote
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Is the only purpose of raising the carb needle for idle?
..no, that's more for your accelleration and mid range throttle...
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Ok, I will get to that today too, you say it just needs to raised .25 Im sure I can find a washer about that
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...that's what i did..but i had to file the washer to .025...and you gotta file off the head of the needle some, and also the nylon retaining clip...
..that is, if your carb is the same as mine...
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??? IM GONNA TRY THAT TUES ON MY DAY OFF . THANKS . Y . D
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For what it's worth, small engines (whatever) are very sensitive to the use of old, stored gas that at this time of year might have been around since last fall (say). Try some pump fresh gas and see if that helps.
Another thing is the (old) gas can that over a period of time accumulates sediment and moisture. Check that out while you are at it.
OK...here's one more....I live in an area of tree trash and bugs and (you name it) drifting around in the air. NEVER leave the gas cap off or unattended except to fill the tank.
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the reason flash lights are called such is because the first ones made had a crank that you had to turn to charge the battery and it would only work for a short time and die then you would crank it it would light up then die ect so it would look like you were flashing light then when better batteries were invented people in the uk started calling them torches simply to distinguish a difference between the 2
and that concludes Dark's useless history lesson for the day class dismissed
Did you just make that up? thats simply not right.
http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/flashlight.htm (http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/flashlight.htm)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashlight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashlight)
The simple reason you call them something different from us in the UK is the same reason you call everything else different names than us, its because when we stopped ruling the USA the americans decided to go all out against everything British and call things by different names and do things the opposite to us, such as left hand drive cars and driving on the right not the left. calling a tap a fawcet a bumper a fender and all other stupid things like this. Before then we called everything the same.
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I thought it was because Brits. are just silly, and like cute names for things. Just kidding... Oh Oh, Got to run to the lew...
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I thought it was because Brits. are just silly, and like cute names for things. Just kidding... Oh Oh, Got to run to the lew...
Its loo by the way short for lavatory, and why do you say you want to go to the bathroom when you want the toilet? what if its just a toilet with no bath in it, what do you call it then...your use of our language is weird... ;)
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I was going to take a shower, sooo I should have said shoe? Or is it Shoo? Even spell check didn't have a clue..., Oh by the way the toilet w/ no bath is called the back door! I guess that would be the Doo... Peace Joeboy!
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no i didn't make it up its what i read in a book a long long time ago so maybe i remembered wrong but please never site wikipedia as a source
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...your use of our language is weird... ;)
Maybe so, but you won't catch me eating spotted dick! ;D
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Maybe so, but you won't catch me eating spotted dick! ;D
whats wrong with a steamed pudding with currants that usually served with custard?
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The friggin NAME
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Maybe so, but you won't catch me eating spotted dick!... I'm still laughing!~
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no i didn't make it up its what i read in a book a long long time ago so maybe i remembered wrong but please never site wikipedia as a source
I used wikipedia as is stated only in North America is it called a flashlight the rest of the world calls it a torch.
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...i would say that this thread has officially been hijacked....
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G'Day Jack.
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Yankee d. is a nice guy! Hope it don't hurt his feelings...
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::) Good for now ol buddy .Mixture screw did it for now .We' ll see if it stays .Thanks .Yankee . D
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That's what I thought buddy boy...
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..have you checked / cleaned your air filter?
..you may have nothing more wrong than your idle mixture..
..have you tried adjusting the idle mix screw on the lower left-hand side of your carb?
That's what I thought buddy boy...
...i said it first!!!...nah-nah nah-nana...
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;D Took your advice ajusted carb and new plug .Air filter AOK .Thank you much .Now the dealer was suppose to PDI .Not so .Yankee . D
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That's why we are all here Brother! Taking up the slack for the "dealers"...
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That's why we are all here Brother! Taking up the slack for the "dealers"...
..omg...aint that the truth.....