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Scooters - 125 to 300 => People 250 => Topic started by: ispud on March 10, 2010, 05:51:55 PM
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when my dealer worked on my scooter he pulled these covers off - now they won't stay on. Apparently they are supposed to fit onto the hex head of the bolt that holds the cover on. I can not get them to "stick" they just bounce right back off?? Lost one on way home yesterday. Any ideas?
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Ask the dealer to replace them. They knew they were going to fall off. In the meantime, a dab of silicone glue will hold them on, and they will pop right off when you need them to
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I guess my question is - why they won't stay on now - there is a flat washer under the bolt head they fit on and it appears to be cupped - like the bolts are too tight - wonder if this is keeping rubber from going on far enough to get snug - maybe I will pull one of tomorrow and see if that lets them stay on.
I found the 2 plastic screws that go in the top of the little black covers that you have to take off to remove small black covers behind fuel pill panel were missing. Called the dealer and his mechanic told me he had them in his toolbox - couldn't figure out where they went. Goodness!! Not sure why he was ripping things apart in this area - his work was in the variator/clutch/belt area. Perhaps he had a hard time with the bolt that is impossible to get to when you take cover off - the one that stopped me in my tracks when I attemped to look in there - but he had told me he got it off with a special little socket he has - I hate mixed stories.
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He removed the plug covers to be able to remove the rear plastics.
Whenever I work on the back of the scoot, I remove all of the red pieces as a single unit. It takes all of 5 minutes to remove all of it. I remove the met-in and seat as one piece, removed the license plate and then all of the red back of the floorboards come off as one big piece. Very simple. That being said, I didn't know the re were covers... never had them on my scoot. I bought it used and they were not there.
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I didn't have to remove the foot resting place covers when I did my valve adjustment, the 2 pieces in front of them and the gas cap cover assy let the front end of the body plastic be loose enough to move it around - I never bother to look for the other screws to take it off - but I might, as not taking it off would probably make things a lot easier.
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I wrote Kymco and the answer was not very good - he said "Make the dealer fix it." I wrote back and asked him to tell me if I had the correct bolts in the floor boards as the rubber caps just bounce right off them - no answer. Sooooooo...can one of you readers who owns the current edition 250 S - please pop off one of the caps and see what the bolt head looks like and then replace the cap and see if it "sticks"?? Thanks.
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Here is the parts diag. for the bolts/caps. http://www.stadiumyamaha.com/pages/parts/viewbybrand/default.aspx (http://www.stadiumyamaha.com/pages/parts/viewbybrand/default.aspx) It shows cupped washers that the caps snap onto. If you have flat washers or the bolts are over tightened the caps will have nothing to grab onto. Worst comes to worst Home centers have those washers in the little hardware drawers. I have bought them for cosmetic repairs many times. They are about 8 cents each the caps are 15 cents.
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what assembly shows them please?
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http://www.stadiumyamaha.com/pages/parts/viewbybrand/default.aspx (http://www.stadiumyamaha.com/pages/parts/viewbybrand/default.aspx) I forgot the part #'s but it's all on the diagram if you click the orange link.
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I see. The link just goes to the home page. You have to put in the model ect. The parts are shown on the floor pan diagram.
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there is no "floor pan" option under people 250 S - I looked at several of the available options yesterday to no avail. I would love to see this. My washers are domed - not sure what affect they have on the caps - the caps fit over the bolt head. With the bolt removed and in my hand I can put a cap on the head and watch it climb right off the head - something is not as it should be.
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for the P250
64316 View Sku Supersession
SKU: 64316-KHE2-900
PLUG FLOOR Must add color code in the end before ordering parts.
for the P250S-- in the Front Cover section
64316 SKU: 64316-LDH1-E00
PLUG FLOOR 4 $1.87
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WAY COOL! Thank you...
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still the question - what makes them stay on? And why won't mine? I was hoping the schematic might give a hint to this, but it just shows a checker! or is it an oreo?
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MMMmmm oreo's. Try a dab of silicone glue/sealent.
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If they are the type of caps I think they are, they have a "cupped" piece that goes under the screw. This "cupped" piece has a small lip around the edge that snaps into the cap. My guess is the lip has just worn down on yours so it's not holding securely. They are just plastic, so they can wear pretty quickly only a couple removals.
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guess I will pull one of the ones that doesn't seem loose and see if I can figure out what the deal is. I found that my dealer broke whatever holds the auxilary plug in the seat well, I was hoping to avoid brutality on these fragile plastic parts. hope in one hand.....
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If you have a crafty spouse, low-temp hot melt glue may be a good option. You can peel out the old before adding new.
They are cheap at WallyWorld.
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Well, as a pragmatist, let me just say that I don't remember when all of MINE disappeared. Given that they're not a critical component, I never really worried about replacing them.
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I bought my P250 used almost 2 years ago and until this thread came along, I never knew I was missing them. I have no plans to order them.
I could use about 6 other pieces of plastic based on the dump by the PO and the tip one of my co-workers gave my bike. It's about $300 to replace all the busted pieces on my scot. Unless you look close, you can't see most of the damage.
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I pulled them all off and they appear to be the same part number, but each one had a different number in the center hole, 7, 24 ,25, don't remember last one. Whether or not they stick is hit or miss, I cannot figure out how they are supposed to work - simple friction, but sometimes they "raise" themselves up off the bolt head. One of my shop guys suggested rubber cement, in lieu of me not having a hot glue gun. They keep debris from filling the cavity the bolts are in - I want them and I want them to stay on! This is not good engineering - such a simple problem, with the same amount of effort one would think they could have done something that wasn't so half assed.
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I am going to guess the different numbers indicate either "when" (date code) they were made or which machine made them (troubleshooting malformed ones at the factory). Good luck on your project. I don't miss mine.
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I want them and I want them to stay on!
I'd gathered that. ;)
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I would have thought by now the dealer would have backed up, and given you a handfull of them. Did you show them the correspondence from Kymco? If the dealer won't help you, drop me a pm or email, and I will send a few out to you. It's just tooooooo much grief for a simple part...
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I'd drop my teeth if my dealer had those in stock. Drive belt, air filter, brake pads? Yes. Cosmetic bits for my floorboard? Haaaa.
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Talked to dealer today - he just got 4 new ones in for me - gonna mail them to me along with a couple screws that got left out at repair - which seems to have fixed my leak problem - keeping fingers crossed.
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Hell, if talking to the dealer fixed your leak problem, I'd put that mofo on speed dial. ;)
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UPS brought caps this morning. They snug right on as they should - not sure why the old ones gave up their snuggness. Also got my 2 missing screws back!! Next project change oil to synthetic - gonna use 5-40 Rotella full synthetic.
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Been watching this to see if you'd ever figure it out. Glad new ones did it ! It's the principal of it all, right?
I've decided to use that Rotella when I change oil too.
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more the mystery!
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