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Title: Changing CDI
Post by: Neko on March 02, 2010, 08:47:07 PM
I have been reading through the posts for de-restricting, and am wanting to change the CDI or disable the rev limiter.
But have not seen any like mine.
I have a 2009 Super8 2T.
Can somebody help me out, and tell me exactly what I need to buy or mod.
I hoping the pics I've taken show up!
Many Thanks.   :)

(http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj426/Robneko/Super8/th_CDI1-1.jpg) (http://s554.photobucket.com/albums/jj426/Robneko/Super8/?action=view&current=CDI1-1.jpg)

(http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj426/Robneko/Super8/th_CDI2.jpg) (http://s554.photobucket.com/albums/jj426/Robneko/Super8/?action=view&current=CDI2.jpg)
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: zombie on March 02, 2010, 09:59:22 PM
I can see 6 wires on the harness! How many pinns are there in the cdi? Also it looks like there are 2 green wires in the harness. Is one of them dark green (the other lite green)? I'll look around to see if that is the same type cdi in the zx. Your answers will help.
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: Neko on March 02, 2010, 10:27:34 PM
The CDI has 8 pins (See pic).
One of the wires is Green, the other is Green with a dark stripe.

(http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj426/Robneko/Super8/th_CDI3.jpg) (http://s554.photobucket.com/albums/jj426/Robneko/Super8/?action=view&current=CDI3.jpg)
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: zombie on March 02, 2010, 10:30:11 PM
Is this a UK bike?
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: Neko on March 02, 2010, 10:33:49 PM
Is this a UK bike?

Yes!
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: alchemy67 on March 05, 2010, 12:06:41 PM
Hi, you could do what I did and emailed customer services at MASCO, they are the distributors for Kymco in the UK. I asked them which wire to cut on my super8 50 4t and a guy came back 2 days later and told me what to do.  That way the info is straight from the horses mouth so tom speak!   No harrm in asking is there?

regards
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: Neko on March 05, 2010, 12:53:33 PM
Thanks for the info, I have telephoned MASCO, and was told there is no rev limiter, and so it cannot be removed.

There is on the 4T, but not 2T!
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: scootergrisen on April 01, 2010, 03:48:28 AM
Yeah i seems like the CDI are not retricted on you model.

Heres my CDI from my Kymco Super 8, 4 stroke 50 ccm with the 2 ekstra wires.
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: wordslinger on May 20, 2010, 01:07:21 AM
Hi, you could do what I did and emailed customer services at MASCO, they are the distributors for Kymco in the UK. I asked them which wire to cut on my super8 50 4t and a guy came back 2 days later and told me what to do.  That way the info is straight from the horses mouth so tom speak!   No harrm in asking is there?

regards


..what did they say to do??
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: zombie on May 20, 2010, 02:47:14 PM
Thanks for the info, I have telephoned MASCO, and was told there is no rev limiter, and so it cannot be removed.

There is on the 4T, but not 2T!
  The Uk bikes are done at the air box/ carb main jet/ var bushing/ exhaust pipe washer. You need to remove the washer in the exhaust header, change the variator boss, remove the restriction in the air box, and go up 2 sizes on the main jet. That will get you rocking.
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: zombie on May 20, 2010, 02:49:29 PM
  The Uk bikes are done at the air box/ carb main jet/ var bushing/ exhaust pipe washer. You need to remove the washer in the exhaust header, change the variator boss, remove the restriction in the air box, and go up 2 sizes on the main jet. That will get you rocking.
  I just posted this in the thread you referred to. Chase down these few bits, and you will be good to go.
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: jbcinzio on June 12, 2010, 03:01:07 PM
Hi, you could do what I did and emailed customer services at MASCO, they are the distributors for Kymco in the UK. I asked them which wire to cut on my super8 50 4t and a guy came back 2 days later and told me what to do.  That way the info is straight from the horses mouth so tom speak!   No harrm in asking is there?

regards

Which wire do we cut for the 50cc 4T?
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: zombie on June 12, 2010, 03:05:48 PM
Either one of the 2 pink wires.
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: Neko on June 27, 2010, 10:21:20 AM
  I just posted this in the thread you referred to. Chase down these few bits, and you will be good to go.
Zombie,
 Please can you point me in the right direction to find this. It was a while ago, and I've been on vacation.
Cheers,
Neko
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: zombie on June 29, 2010, 02:52:37 AM
  The Uk bikes are done at the air box/ carb main jet/ var bushing/ exhaust pipe washer. You need to remove the washer in the exhaust header, change the variator boss, remove the restriction in the air box, and go up 2 sizes on the main jet. That will get you rocking.
  Hey Neko, This is the post. Inside your variator there is a sleeve that everything rides on. At one end of the sleeve (boss) there is a shoulder that is easy to have machined off. Go to http://www.stadiumyamaha.com/pages/parts/viewbybrand/default.aspx (http://www.stadiumyamaha.com/pages/parts/viewbybrand/default.aspx)  and look up your scoot. Look at the cvt picts, and the boss is # 22105 in the pict. That is the MAIN restriction on your scoot. The shoulder has to be cut down to the same diameter as the rest it. Next... Open your air box, and right in front of the carb. is a square plug with a hole in the middle for the air to flow thru. Just pull out that plug, and toss it away. after that you can get a bigger Mian jet from your dealer. It will be 2 sizes bigger than the one in there now. The last bit is in the exhaust. There is a washer welded into the engine side end of the pipe. Use a dremmel tool to cut it out, and you are done. You will see 45 mph.
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: tomassito on June 30, 2010, 04:08:16 PM
I DON'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY.WHAT CAN I DO TO GO MORE FASTER?THE CDI HAS ANY CUTTER?I AM FROM GREECE AND I HAVE HAD A KYMCO SUPER 8 50 CC 4T...THANKS.
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: wordslinger on June 30, 2010, 04:12:40 PM
..you can cut either of the pink wires that connect to your cdi...

..that will de-restrict the unit, and will allow your engine higher rpms....
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: tomassito on June 30, 2010, 04:19:31 PM
THIS COLOUR?IS THIS SURE?I DON'T WONT TO CUT SOME WRONG WIRES.I HAVE SEE SOME CDI UNRESTRICTED TO BUY.I MUST TO BUY SOMEONE OR ONLY TO CUT A WIRE?
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: zombie on June 30, 2010, 07:33:45 PM
It is simply cutting either one of the PINK wires going to the cdi. Don't waste your money on another cdi. When you cut it just tape up the ends so they won't short out. You will be very happy w/ the result.
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: jbcinzio on July 03, 2010, 09:18:48 PM
Hi, you could do what I did and emailed customer services at MASCO, they are the distributors for Kymco in the UK. I asked them which wire to cut on my super8 50 4t and a guy came back 2 days later and told me what to do.  That way the info is straight from the horses mouth so tom speak!   No harrm in asking is there?

regards

Hi Guys and Girls, I'm finally back from holidays!

Alchemy67, I think the CDI on my Like 50 4T may be the same as yours. (My CDI is similar to the one shown in the photos posted by Neko, but my wires are slightly different and the sticker on the end has a different number - His middle number on the sticker is LHB3 and mine is LEJ2)
Can you please let me know what MASCO told you regarding the CDI De-Restrict method for your Super8 50 4T?
If you happen to have any photo's/ numbers of your CDI/Plug that would be a big help too!

Thanks!

Josh
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: zombie on July 04, 2010, 07:58:43 PM
He was told there is NO restriction on the cdi for the 2t model. Jb, post the wire colors going to your cdi. That will tell what has to be done
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: wordslinger on July 04, 2010, 09:35:57 PM
..my 2001 people50 cdi has never been changed...and it's obviously NOT restricted....
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: jbcinzio on July 05, 2010, 08:53:11 PM
Hi guys, I'll try and post some pictures of the CDI....

Thanks.
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: jbcinzio on July 05, 2010, 08:54:56 PM
And the other two....
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: gnvernon on August 25, 2014, 06:15:32 PM
Thought I would bring this topic back. does anybody know what the green wire that is connected to the carb is?
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: Pimpy1 on August 25, 2014, 07:58:24 PM
Thought I would bring this topic back. does anybody know what the green wire that is connected to the carb is?

I think it goes to the automatic choke.
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: gnvernon on August 26, 2014, 03:24:06 PM
And does what? because I opened my scooter yesterday and saw that it wasnt connected so im not sure how long it has been running like that.
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: BettinANDlosing on August 26, 2014, 03:45:11 PM
The two wires going to the carb control the bystarter (choke) if they are unplugged the choke will stay ON causing all kinds of issues. Also the people 2t used a totally different cdi setup than the 4t bikes, it looks different than the agility cdi where you can cut the case ever so slightly to derestrict. We don't have the 4t like or super 8 50 here in the US yet so I can't help much.
Title: Re: Changing CDI
Post by: gnvernon on August 26, 2014, 04:31:40 PM
I have the S8 2T