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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Agility 125 => Topic started by: topaz6turbo on February 23, 2010, 09:22:44 AM
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Ok, Ive been playing up and the rear tyre is shot. Im looking to upgrade, and have been looking at the pirellis. Any thoughts and advice? Whos running what and what sort of cost?
Thanks
Holty
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Before anyone can answer that question accurately, most will probably want to know how aggressively do
you ride, do you ride in rain, etc.
If you ride moderately, mostly around town, no silly lean angles.. and some racer-boy-wannabe who
grinds his knee caps on every curve recommends a tire.. and you wear it out in the middle after only
2000km, you'd think his recommendation was at fault.. but it wasn't :)
You might wanna be a bit more specific.
That said, I've been looking at reviews for scooter tires for years now, and I've had the same
size tires on my previous scooter and it's rather hard to find a negative review on ANY brand-name
tire. So, if you fall into the 'moderate rider' category, you'd be happy with any of the standard
Michelin/Pirelli/Dunlop etc, maybe even some of the 'no-name' stuff from IRC, Maxxis/CST or Shinko.
I seriously doubt you can get worse then the stock/oem CST tires, and they're just fine when new too.
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Very good point Cortez! I also was looking at pirelli, and did find several negative reviews on wear. I wound up getting Avon Strykers. So far(863km) so good! The price is fair, the profile is terrific, and the rain seems to have little effect on them. For the record I do like to lean a bit, brake hard from time to time, maybe a little dough-nut in the sandy patches. I believe they are worth looking into.
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Very good point Cortez! I also was looking at pirelli, and did find several negative reviews on wear. I wound up getting Avon Strykers. So far(863km) so good! The price is fair, the profile is terrific, and the rain seems to have little effect on them. For the record I do like to lean a bit, brake hard from time to time, maybe a little dough-nut in the sandy patches. I believe they are worth looking into.
Can you confirm if the center stand is the first place to hit the road when leaned over on
both sides or something else? I'm not sure I'll be grinding it off with the CST tires, but
you never know..
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If I was to lean that hard, the first thing to hit would be my cojone's. Try holding your scoot as if in a turn, and see! (both sides)
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If I was to lean that hard, the first thing to hit would be my cojone's. Try holding your scoot as if in a turn, and see! (both sides)
Yeah, I did, but it was easier just asking here first ;D
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Ok, well I travel nearly 60km each day mainly open road, with a bit of town work after hours, so looking for a good wearing tyre. All weather too!
Thanks
Holty
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Ok, well I travel nearly 60km each day mainly open road, with a bit of town work after hours, so looking for a good wearing tyre. All weather too!
Thanks
Holty
I would (and will) look at these:
http://tinyurl.com/yf4ju79 (http://tinyurl.com/yf4ju79) --> Michelin Pilot City
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I would (and will) look at these:
http://tinyurl.com/yf4ju79 (http://tinyurl.com/yf4ju79) --> Michelin Pilot City
With this statement, they are really defying the laws of physics:
"Whether you're riding on wet cobblestones or dry asphalt, the Pilot City's level of grip remains constant."
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They also work in Australia! (we all know Australia is upside down) Some kinda suction cup thingie. I'm liking the Avon Strykers myself... http://www.avonmotorcycle.com/ (http://www.avonmotorcycle.com/)
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With this statement, they are really defying the laws of physics:
"Whether you're riding on wet cobblestones or dry asphalt, the Pilot City's level of grip remains constant."
It's actually witchcraft, but as long as it works.. !
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Dont you watch the simpsons? The water spins backwards creating a time/gravity vortex making our bikes handle better and go faster than anywhere else in the world! You suckers get the normal slow bikes, we live in performance heaven!!!!
Holty
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Damnit!
>:(
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There's just something very wrong with all this.
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...i think i've found my tire of choice....
..Avon Viper Stryke....
..i ride 40+ miles a day, every day, wet, dry whatever...
..these tires just plain stick like glue...
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Slinger, what sort of price in comparison to the other options, and how many km have you done on them so far? Wear is a fair importance to me due to my mileage travelled. I have just clicked over 5000km since november.
Holty
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..topaz..i have 8,000 km on my front....viper...no wear to be shown to speak of...i just replaced my Kenda rear a cpl-3 weeks ago...
..my scoot came with cheng shin tires...for me, they suck...plainly...
..there is a marked increase in handling capabilities with the Avons....
..i've said it before in previous posts...and i hate to soundlike i'm harping...
..but these tires kick ass!!!! ;D
..39 bucks "on sale" u.s. at the website i ordered th rear from...
...i'd probly give 50 bucks a-piece for these tires if i had no other alternative...
..ask shaka and zombie...they gott'm on their scoots too...
peace
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I love em! The handling is much improved, even in the snow! ;D I have only put maybe 1000kms on mine. I got mine from motorcyclesuperstore.com with free shipping. I think I paid about $70 for both of mine. I had to add in some 2 stroke oil to make the $75 cut-off for the free shipping.
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Forgot to say I fitted a Pirelli GTS 24. It looks bigger than the factory tyre and has a really tough pattern with good deep channels. It cost me $49 plus $15 fitting and balance, and is amazing for grip. I reckon it wont do a heap of miles as it seems too soft, but must admit its brilliant. Only problem is I am now pushing it harder into corners and laying it over more, that I will probably come off bacause of trying harder.... Cant help but give them a huge tick of approval.
Holty
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What about Metzeler Feelfree?
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I looked at the Pirelli's myself, and as topaz stated they are pretty soft. I imagine they would out perform the Avon (slightly) but the service life is (slightly) less.
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Found cheap Pirelli ST66.....
Looks fine, sombody use this?
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What size is it MarioG
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serial 100/80 16 and 120/80 16....
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Metzeler Feelfree or Pirelli ST66?
anyone?
Need this ASAP, what to buy? Gonna kill myself on this tires....
Damn water on road......2 weeks it was combination with oil in curve....Hell, im still shaking...
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I have done a bit of really wet riding lately, and the pirelli has been spectacular. I rang the shop and told them to get me a good tyre. I didnt ask by name or price, just good grip. Cost $49 plus fitting and I dont reckon you can go wrong at that price. Let us know what you decide and how they perform. To tell the truth the front has a heap of tread left (factory) and I have asked the shop to order me a matching front, to match the rear thats how impressed I am with it.
Holty
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Wow, I had to pay $75 for a Continental without fitting. The joys of living out in the sticks.
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Where are you based? Im western Victoria, Australia, and my mate is spare parts at the local bike shop, so reckon he looked after me ok.
Holty
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G'Day Holty, I'm in Whyalla S.A. Just had the schnapper fishing comp. here this weekend, plenty of Victorians in town for it.
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Metzeler Feelfree or Pirelli ST66?
anyone?
Need this ASAP, what to buy? Gonna kill myself on this tires....
Damn water on road......2 weeks it was combination with oil in curve....Hell, im still shaking...
DOT 4908, this is old tire?
They say thats OK.....?
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Dunlop Runscoot.
87 US$ both, 15 US$ fitting.
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Where, but im on 16 inches......
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Where, but im on 16 inches......
Check out firma.hr.
They ship the next day and you can pay upon delivery (Intereuropa).
I have been buying online from them for the past 4 years, you even get complimentary set of stickers, pencils etc. every time :)
If they do not have your tire size, you can call then on the phone and ask for quotation.
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Check out firma.hr.
They ship the next day and you can pay upon delivery (Intereuropa).
I have been buying online from them for the past 4 years, you even get complimentary set of stickers, pencils etc. every time :)
If they do not have your tire size, you can call then on the phone and ask for quotation.
Woot!
That's great info!
I've never heard of them and never saw them recommended on any of our (local)
forums/newsgroups >:(
I'm looking for tires for my Kawasaki, and have decided to get Dunlop's Roadsmarts, and they
have them for ~$30 less then motobox.hr!
Thnx :)
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Woot!
That's great info!
I've never heard of them and never saw them recommended on any of our (local)
forums/newsgroups >:(
I'm looking for tires for my Kawasaki, and have decided to get Dunlop's Roadsmarts, and they
have them for ~$30 less then motobox.hr!
Thnx :)
If you buy 4 tires, they even pay shipping, if not, it's extra 40 Kn, but that's negligible...
Tell them that I told you about them, maybe they provide some discount in the future. :)
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If you buy 4 tires, they even pay shipping, if not, it's extra 40 Kn, but that's negligible...
Tell them that I told you about them, maybe they provide some discount in the future. :)
The web site says orders under 1.000kn pay shipping.. ???
Will do! ;D
(..and not to mention you got me interested in RunScoot tires too.. I've been reading
reviews since.. and I was sure I was gonna go the Sava MC29 route..)
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The web site says orders under 1.000kn pay shipping.. ???
Will do! ;D
(..and not to mention you got me interested in RunScoot tires too.. I've been reading
reviews since.. and I was sure I was gonna go the Sava MC29 route..)
To be honest, pretty much all tires I have ever had on any of the scoots in the past 11 years since I've been on 2 wheels performed reasonably well in dry conditions. This includes tyres that people strongly dislike here, like Kendas and other OEMs for Kymco.
It is nearly impossible to use the tire to the limit in normal street use, especially while commuting to work and back... also, I would not advise to anybody to test the scoots to the limit as they usually have unbalanced weight distribution, very unsophisticated suspension that cannot be adjusted and they are not exactly suited to extreme sports style of driving that will sooner or later lead to very bad consequences. (even though I used to have a lot of fun driving scoots, especially 50-72 cc 2 strokes :) :) )
I have never had tyres long enough to have problems because the tyre is worn out. I usually replace them when they are halfway thread-wise. I think they are cheap enough (and they are only two per scoot!) not to go rubber side up because of worn tires.
Also, I have never experienced performance degradation in rainy conditions because of the reason stated above.
The only exception are OEM tires I had on my Kymco Cobra Cross 50 in 2001 or so. I really cannot explain this - they looked brand new, plenty of thread, but you could not stop the scoot on a straight line at speed of 20-30 km/h when it was wet. If you barely touched the brakes, the wheel would lock. As I said, I have never before or after had worse tires than that (maybe on my Fićo, production Year 1979, Tigar tires). I wonder how people did not get killed all over the world.
Also, OEMs on Agility had a funny mushroom-shape so the scoot would not lean over in bends.
Shape change from oval/round to flat is the main reason why I change tires so often. Most of the time I drive in a straight line at 70-90 km/h so I do not wear the tires in curves, that causes the tire to go flat (especially rear, but also the front one too) after 10-12.000 kms when I replace the tires.
Also, I do not spend a lot of time studying tires. Check a review or two, check the prices and buy them. Do not fret over little things, I'd say...
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The web site says orders under 1.000kn pay shipping.. ???
Will do! ;D
Well, four average tires is 1000 Kn... average is Fiat Punto etc.
I guess you can buy also one slick for moto racing and avoid shipping. :) :)
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Shape change from oval/round to flat is the main reason why I change tires so often. Most of the time I drive in a straight line at 70-90 km/h so I do not wear the tires in curves, that causes the tire to go flat (especially rear, but also the front one too) after 10-12.000 kms when I replace the tires.
Also, I do not spend a lot of time studying tires. Check a review or two, check the prices and buy them. Do not fret over little things, I'd say...
I just wanna be sure I can be as fast as local kids on their pimped up 50cc Runners around town
(and be able to stop fast enough when a cat falls out of a tree in front of me on slick city asphalt). ;)
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Well, four average tires is 1000 Kn... average is Fiat Punto etc.
I guess you can buy also one slick for moto racing and avoid shipping. :) :)
Yeah, that's true.. I'll probably get my Roadsmarts there.
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Tnx, Axy....
But this size of tire are not in there....firma.hr
Maybe Sava MC28.....cos i live near river Sava (600ft near), i will probably by mistake push this scoot in Sava....
Gonna try Pirelli ST66....
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Tnx, Axy....
But this size of tire are not in there....firma.hr
Maybe Sava MC28.....cos i live near river Sava (600ft near), i will probably by mistake push this scoot in Sava....
Gonna try Pirelli ST66....
I had MC28 Diamond for a few thousand happy kms on Bev200 before I sold it... good tire but has A LOT of problems on white lines! Incredible.
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Yaeh, for sure MC29 MC28 soft are great,,,,,
but i stick with pirelli...
Thank u for replay...
Update: just ordered open air filter, 15.5g rollers, jet 120......
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Put on St66, and its difference like heaven and earth....
No bumpy and vibrations after holes in asfalt....
Now its like driving real bike....almost...
CST its bad bad tire.... :o