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Scooters - 50cc => zx50 => Topic started by: Shaka on January 14, 2010, 09:50:01 PM
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This question may be focused mostly towards Zombie, but if others have experience please chime in. I got my Avon tires yesterday and got them mounted up. My question is, I would really like to be able to re-attach the rear inner fender because it helps keep dirt from kicking up on my air filter. The 130/70-12 tire fits with minimal clearance on the CVT side front. When I try and put the fender back in it binds between the engine air shroud and the tire. There is also a bolt that holds the left half of the air shroud on right, but it actually seems to be rubbing on the right side shroud just where the halves meet. I'm curious what the simplest place to remove some material is? Should I grind on the air shroud, or the fender? I'm also concerned that if I remove the piece of the air shroud that it will then bind on the bold. Just looking for some ideas. Thanks!
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Hey Shaka, What up Bro? I wouldnt cut the shroud because it works so well. I removed the inner fender about 2 years ago so I have easy access to the spark plug. It has never created a problem with dirt, or water. I also noticed my shroud was slightly deformed and not sitting right. I used a Heat gun to soften a circle around the deformed part, and pushed it back in place with a pot holder. I think it will wok for you as well. If you really want to keep the fender the idea may help you there as well. Have you ridden with the new tires yet? They are my favorite mod to date. I love the way this thing rides now. I hope you got the bolt on valve stems! I use them because of the extra pressure in the Avons. They look pretty cool also.
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That makes sense now! I thought you were still running with the inner fender, and I was like, "How the Heck did he do that?" I agree with you on cutting the shroud, but the part that needs to be removed is just a tap on the overlap between the two halves. I wouldn't have to cut a hole in the functional part.
The problem is the clearance is only about 2-3mm between the tire and this tab on the shroud. Not even the thickness of the fender itself! Heating it up and changing the shape isn't going to help there. I may end up cutting the front part of the fender off so that it doesn't wrap all the way to the front of the tire. My concern with that is finding a way to mount it so it doesn't rattle around. The fender fit pretty tight up to the back of the cooling shroud before. This acted as a stabilization point, as there are only two single bolts on either side that actually mount it.
For now I'm just going to run without and see how the dirt collection on my air filter works out. I don't think it will be as big of as issue as before when I first installed the filter. I have since changed the intake manifold and made the longer filter tube. Now the filter sits on the outside of the rear shock. It should be better placed now to avoid the constant stream of sand being flung at it. Gotta remember I'm at the beach!
As for the tires, I love them! I only got a chance to ride them about 10 miles today, but man, what an improvement! They seem to be extremely supple and responsive! They also have a great profile and "fall" nicely into the curves! I didn't get the bolt on valves. I seem to recall they were a bit pricey when I ordered the tires. I figure if the valves I have give me problems, I'll deal with it then.
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I think you have the same snorkle set up I used, and it is way out of the way for tire debris. you may be able to use POP rivets to retain the fender if needed... Every day I am leaning a little harder into my favorite corners to see how far I can get into them. Trouble is 1 of them is the Main cross road in town, right in front of the Police station. It's just irresistible though. Brand new asphalt, grippy tires, and such a smooth sweep into the corner. It will sure make the local gossip mill if I run over a cop coming out of the front door. I wonder if they would let me post from the slammer?
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Haha! Good luck with that! These tires are awesome! I still haven't gotten many miles on them, but what an improvement! There is a 15mph S-curve down the street I travel every day. I haven't been able to hit it above 45mph, till now! I'm pretty sure I can get it at full speed; came up on a car into the second bend on my way home this evening, so had to slow down. I've got this one though! ;D
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They really are good stuff! I was just looking at bar end mirrors on Ebay. I know Chinese crapola headquaters! $15.99 w/ free shipping. Gotta go for it.
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Let me know how those bar end mirrors work out. I need some mirrors for my Vento. I was just going to get the same ones I have on my ZX which I really like. They are this style: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390094837542&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390094837542&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT)
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I like those for the Vento. Sort of Classic style. I can't see past my shoulders or elbows with the three I have tried so I figured the bar ends would work. Pretty cool looking too. OOOOHHHH YYYEEEAAAHHHHH! BBBAAADDDD AAASSSS#### Scooter. Watch out world!
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Haha! Good luck with that! These tires are awesome! I still haven't gotten many miles on them, but what an improvement! There is a 15mph S-curve down the street I travel every day. I haven't been able to hit it above 45mph, till now! I'm pretty sure I can get it at full speed; came up on a car into the second bend on my way home this evening, so had to slow down. I've got this one though! ;D
..i'm awaiting my Avon rear tire...then I'll have Viper Strykes on both front and rear....can't wait!!!!!!
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Yeah Yeah Yeah Who Cares... Just messin w/ you Bro! Did you stay w/ the stock size or 1 step up? I forgot to mention to shaka, The kick stand will be leaning a little further over cause of the taller tire.OOOPPPSSA! Turning is quicker also because of the increased attack angle.OOOPPPSSA! Sure you found this out though...Good stuff guys!
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I did go up one size front and rear. Just got back from vacation so still haven't really ridden more than about 10 miles. The only problem I really ran into besides fitting the rear inner fender, is the rear wheel doesn't come off the ground anymore while on the center stand! I don't have a front fender so I had no problems there.
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I threw my center stand away a long time ago. It' most likely still w/ my rear liner!
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I threw my center stand away a long time ago. It' most likely still w/ my rear liner!
Haha! I use my center for warming up the scoot in the morning though, and also tuning!
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I have an old steel milk crate for that.
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I have an old steel milk crate for that.
That's not nearly as convenient! For now I just left a 1 X 6 where I park it to flip the stand down onto too. I may end up either taking it off, or figuring out welding some spacers to the bottom of the feet to give it more height.
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Haha! I use my center for warming up the scoot in the morning though, and also tuning!
..i can't remove my center stand...
..i removed my kick-stand because it kept scrubbing on left hand turns...
..WEEEEE!!!!
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These scoot have too many extra parts. My shop is full of extra junk
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hey guys, i know an old thread but, when i put my rear tire on, i never noticed till i was leaning back stretching out completely that the same bolt hole that skaka was talking about for the fan shroud actually rubbed an indention in my tire. its the material that the bolt threads in on the back left side... that way sucked!!! can i trim that off some????....shaka, you took your front fender off?? doesnt it look odd???
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Do you have the stock size tires on your scoot? Are you saying it rubbed the rear tire? You can't really get away with grinding off the material on the rear. That is the point where the air fan shroud attaches. I don't have front or rear fenders on mine. My front one was cracked in half when I bought the scoot, so I just took it off. I actually cut it and reshaped it, but I never got around to finishing it. I don't really think it looks funny. My scoot is nothing pretty to look at anyways! ;) The previous owner beat the $h*t out of it!!! I've found that the less attention I draw to my SCREAMING scoot the better!!! Keeps the cops at bay, at least for the most part! ;D
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There was a small bung on my engine case that rubbed the tire. It was on the left side of the case, just off from the center of the tire. I ground that down about 3/16".
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yes, i have upgraded to bigger size tire 130 120. yeah, the piece of material is ON THE CASE. the shroud screw bolts to IT.. CLOSE ASS FIT ANYWAY. didnt do it untill i stretched out/back on my ride home.. the back left side, just a lil tit that sticks out so the left side shroud can screw tight... yeah, it put a groove AROUND WHOLE DAM TIRE...
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I just touched it a few times w/ a right angle grinder. I thought mine would clear too. When the tire heats up it does expand about 1/4". You can take it right down to the threaded bolt, and still be good. Just use a dab of Lok Tite on the bolt.
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I haven't had any problems with mine hitting that bolt nub. I have gotten a little rubbing on the right side edge where it rubs the center stand a little. I've noticed it only really seems to be an issue if my tire pressure drops below 30 psi. I haven't gotten around to taking the center stand back off to grind on it a little. That spring is a b*tch to take on and off!!!
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That spring is a b*tch to take on and off!!!
...aint it tho!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That spring is a b*tch to take on and off!!! ...aint it tho!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AMEN TO THAT!!! i took my stand off...do slap it on while working on it w/o spring!!
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AMEN TO THAT!!! i took my stand off...do slap it on while working on it w/o spring!!
Now that's not a bad idea!
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THANK YA, THANK YA VERY MUCH!!...lmao... makes my life easier, always scared im gonna hit it in a curve.. that could suck hard...lol...... oh yeah, thanks for the advice on the rear tire, dont wanna ruin that... only 2000km on it...