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Title: Xenon lights - what do you need to modify
Post by: DownTownMOD on February 24, 2016, 03:37:17 AM

Hi,
I've been wanting to set up xenon lights on my DT for a long time but no seller on EBay could tell me if and what kit do I need..
I presume you can't just take h7 bulbs and switch them...
If anyone could help it would be great.

I did browse former topics and saw people with DT saying they just bought the bulbs- so now I'm even more confused...

One last question for today- does the spark plug really matter? I saw some Bosch ones and many other so called "high performence" plugs- but I don't think it will really have a significant effect

Cheers

Title: Re: Xenon lights - what do you need to modify
Post by: CROSSBOLT on February 24, 2016, 05:01:23 PM

I, too, get confused about headlamp "bulbs" and LED replacements. Sparkplugs may be like octane, linked to great debate and conflict of opinions. I put an Iridium in my DT300i shortly after new and it is still there and working. Realistically, modern spark plugs like the original would probably do the same thing for a lot less money. I have seen plugs from cars with nearly 100000 miles that MAY have needed the gap closed a bit but were still functioning. Your choice in any case.

Karl

Title: Re: Xenon lights - what do you need to modify
Post by: donjack on February 24, 2016, 09:31:40 PM

hello karl, I had a message from MOD, this might help you too!!

hello again MOD, I DON'T mind at all answering your questions!!
I buy all my bulbs from a Chinese web site called "aliexpress" they take roughly 3 weeks to arrive BUT are a helluva lot cheaper than I can buy them here in the uk!!
what I shall do is give you a few links to the bulbs I have used if that's ok, so here I go!!

these are turn signal bulbs, 2 front, 2 back!

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/PY21W-BAU15S-1156-LED-150-Degree-21-SMD-CREE-LED-Lights-Bulbs-Turn-Signal-Lamp-Amber/32308109761.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.20.XJLzDm&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_2,searchweb201644_5_505_506_503_504_301_9911_502_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10006_10011_10003_10004_10009_10008,searchweb201560_3,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6448&btsid=67e25d2a-cc5f-419b-8eb8-336b1e4cc0c0 (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/PY21W-BAU15S-1156-LED-150-Degree-21-SMD-CREE-LED-Lights-Bulbs-Turn-Signal-Lamp-Amber/32308109761.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.20.XJLzDm&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_2,searchweb201644_5_505_506_503_504_301_9911_502_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10006_10011_10003_10004_10009_10008,searchweb201560_3,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6448&btsid=67e25d2a-cc5f-419b-8eb8-336b1e4cc0c0)

these are the high beam bulbs,

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-New-Arrival-H11-Car-LED-Headlight-for-Car-DIY-Retrofit-Free-Shipping/2055473387.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.56.L8KdWo&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_2,searchweb201644_5_505_506_503_504_301_9905_502_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10006_10011_10003_10004_10009_10008,searchweb201560_3,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6448&btsid=ac4d6f14-c51c-44ab-a446-89bcc70692a3 (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-New-Arrival-H11-Car-LED-Headlight-for-Car-DIY-Retrofit-Free-Shipping/2055473387.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.56.L8KdWo&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_2,searchweb201644_5_505_506_503_504_301_9905_502_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10006_10011_10003_10004_10009_10008,searchweb201560_3,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6448&btsid=ac4d6f14-c51c-44ab-a446-89bcc70692a3)

I have these hids in my low beams now, but I was so impressed with the leds (above) that I have ordered another set for the low beam!

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/55w-HID-Xenon-Kit-H1-H3-H7-H11-H8-H9-HB3-HB4-9005-9006-Single-Beam/1506811168.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.191.XMjc56&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_2,searchweb201644_5_505_506_503_504_301_9905_502_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10006_10011_10003_10004_10009_10008,searchweb201560_3,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6448&btsid=3d1a8a82-0da7-4a35-8dd4-96bf95b64c34 (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/55w-HID-Xenon-Kit-H1-H3-H7-H11-H8-H9-HB3-HB4-9005-9006-Single-Beam/1506811168.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.191.XMjc56&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_2,searchweb201644_5_505_506_503_504_301_9905_502_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10006_10011_10003_10004_10009_10008,searchweb201560_3,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6448&btsid=3d1a8a82-0da7-4a35-8dd4-96bf95b64c34)

so that is the front of the scoot covered! now on to the rear!!
turn signals, as above.

rear brake led

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2PCS-CREE-LED1157-bay15d-S25-21SMD-High-Power-LED-Tail-Brake-Stop-Light-Bulbs-car-light/1941532618.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2PCS-CREE-LED1157-bay15d-S25-21SMD-High-Power-LED-Tail-Brake-Stop-Light-Bulbs-car-light/1941532618.html)

I hope this helps rather than confuses you!!
just another helpful hint, personally when I buy from "aliexpress" I always look for 95% or above seller rating and at least 4 stars on feedback rating!
if you need any more help/ info, you know where I am  :D
cheers,
Don.

Title: Re: Xenon lights - what do you need to modify
Post by: ktienation on February 25, 2016, 03:43:37 PM

MOD, i have my modified my headlamps to Xenon. Dunno if the US version will be the same as EU (my scoot is from EU), but the bulps to look at are H11. H7 wont fit.

Regards,
Peter

Title: Re: Xenon lights - what do you need to modify
Post by: de dee on February 25, 2016, 05:58:20 PM

  my lights are H8  or H11   they have the same base,  I think some supplyers have replacement bases, for ther lights / you would have to ask,

Title: Re: Xenon lights - what do you need to modify
Post by: donjack on February 25, 2016, 08:01:50 PM

Hello all, I have just this minute installed leds,  on the box it says H8 H9 H11, i don't know what the difference is but they fit!
Photos to follow.
Cheers,
Don.

Title: Re: Xenon lights - what do you need to modify
Post by: donjack on February 25, 2016, 10:04:08 PM

I tried to take the pictures from the same distance and the same angle, I'm not 100% convinced, maybe they will look different whilst driving!!
let me know what you think.
Cheers,
Don.

Title: Re: Xenon lights - what do you need to modify
Post by: donjack on February 27, 2016, 09:58:06 AM

UPDATE,  I did notice a difference on my way home at 5am, it's a clearer brighter white than the hids, so I am very happy about that!
One thing I did notice was that there was a tiny bit of light flare at the edges of the light pattern, if you look at the pictures you can see it.
I would recommend them tho'.
Cheers,
Don.

Title: Re: Xenon lights - what do you need to modify
Post by: ktienation on February 28, 2016, 11:14:10 AM

Donjack, could you please post an image of the led bulb (could be from the internet). I am just courious of the type of the bulb (how de LEDs are placed.
Regards,
P.

Title: Re: Xenon lights - what do you need to modify
Post by: donjack on February 28, 2016, 07:36:14 PM

this is for downtownMOD.
hope this helps!
cheers,
Don

Title: Re: Xenon lights - what do you need to modify
Post by: donjack on February 28, 2016, 07:57:58 PM

and this one is for ktienation,
this is the best i could do!!
it is the exact same but with H8 fitting!
cheers,
Don.

Title: Re: Xenon lights - what do you need to modify
Post by: DownTownMOD on February 29, 2016, 08:42:02 AM

Thanks Don!!!
i feel a bit stupid now but what the heck - i learnd something  :o

Quote from: donjack on February 28, 2016, 07:36:14 PM

this is for downtownMOD.
hope this helps!
cheers,
Don

Title: Re: Xenon lights - what do you need to modify
Post by: kneeslider on October 22, 2016, 11:34:22 AM

Donjack,
How did you fit your hands behind the headlight module to reach the bulbs?

I managed to get the original bulbs out but i can't seem to get the new LED bulbs back in, as in find the notch that locks them down.

Title: Re: Xenon lights - what do you need to modify
Post by: de dee on October 23, 2016, 03:54:53 AM

  the first time I replaced the headlights,.  I removed the front end off the scooter,. and had trouble getting the bulb in ,  so I removed the hard board lock in the head light and put it on the bulb , and screwed it back on 3 little screws you need a magnetic screw driver or you will lose the screws, very small screws,  after changing from OEM bulbs to HID bulbs to LED bulbs they go in easy,. 

Title: Re: Xenon lights - what do you need to modify
Post by: donjack on October 23, 2016, 07:33:01 AM

I'm the same as De Dee, removed the nose but nothing more, the bulbs went in but it was a tight squeeze.
Cheers,
Don.

Title: Re: Xenon lights - what do you need to modify
Post by: kneeslider on October 23, 2016, 11:52:20 AM

How did you remove the nose? :o