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Title: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: xsel777 on June 27, 2015, 08:33:22 AM
I have heard that it is bad for this scoot in particular to pull away sharply from the robots, in order to get in front of the cagers .

My thinking is that since the CVT is designed to slip ( stock setup), that reduces a lot of stress.

What say you?
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: zombie on June 27, 2015, 09:05:32 AM
It won't hurt anything. It does wear the parts faster(duh) but there is nothing model specific.

You end up glazing the clutch bell, and pads sooner, and perhaps a bit more roller wear but nothing else. If you like to tear it down, inspect, clean, and ride more often than the next guy... Beat it up. If you don't want to maintain it more... baby it.
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: AMAC1680 on June 27, 2015, 10:50:27 AM
It won't hurt anything. It does wear the parts faster(duh) but there is nothing model specific.

You end up glazing the clutch bell, and pads sooner, and perhaps a bit more roller wear but nothing else. If you like to tear it down, inspect, clean, and ride more often than the next guy... Beat it up. If you don't want to maintain it more... baby it.

Ahh you understood. With robots and cagers I thought he was riding the scoot in "Battlebots".....

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: zombie on June 27, 2015, 11:27:52 AM
I'm fluent in word soup. I majored in it from preK thru 4th grade.

You all might not know this but I was a speech writer for Mike Tyson, and George Bush (jr).
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: bluesin on June 27, 2015, 12:54:28 PM
I'm fluent in word soup. I majored in it from preK thru 4th grade.

You all might not know this but I was a speech writer for Mike Tyson, and George Bush (jr).


And ya done real good !
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: xsel777 on June 27, 2015, 01:05:56 PM
I forgot to mention, specifically because the bearings on these scoot's are like car bearings.
I understand more wear, expected, but major mechanical issues around premature bearing failure is my main concern.
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: zombie on June 27, 2015, 03:50:56 PM
Well then you answered your own askin.

What bearings are you talking about? Pretty much any time a bearing fails there will be a major mechanical failure that goes along with it. The good side of this is bearings will announce themselves when they begin to fail, and you might be able to avoid a major failure by listening, and finding the problem.


Quote from: zombie on Today at 07:27:52 AM
I'm fluent in word soup. I majored in it from preK thru 4th grade.

You all might not know this but I was a speech writer for Mike Tyson, and George Bush (jr).


And ya done real good !


Thanks Sis! I tryieddd to done good.
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: BettinANDlosing on June 27, 2015, 07:24:58 PM
The crank bearings on the x500 are hydraulic, unlike most smaller scooters using roller bearings for the crank. Two important things, low oil and they are f***ED and you go WOT on a cold engine and damage the bearings. With proper oil and warm up that design of bearing is actually much better than roller bearings because they are floating on oil so there is very very little friction. One thing I have seen with the x500 is exploded clutches. Almost every x500 has a blued clutch, heavy bike with a lot of power puts a beating on the clutch. That's the only thing I would worry about going wot off the line, accelerate lightly until you feel the clutch engage (about 20mph) then gun it.
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: xsel777 on June 28, 2015, 05:28:12 AM
Great, thanks for the input.
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: zombie on June 28, 2015, 12:32:27 PM
This whole subject is ludicrous.
We have won the war on bearings many times over to date, and um let me just reintertrapolate... There are bigger fish to take into account! Bearings are just one small part of the New World Order!

The itsy bitsy spider climbed up the water spout.
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: CROSSBOLT on June 28, 2015, 09:18:00 PM
You must realize that Zombie is a truly insane person and "they" only let him out once in every once in a while. When he is locked up "they" make him do preventive maintenance on that flying thing you see in "Independence Day."

Karl
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: zombie on June 28, 2015, 10:06:23 PM
They don't "let me out"... Who told you about the flying thing?
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: bluesin on June 29, 2015, 01:02:01 PM
They don't "let me out"... Who told you about the flying thing?


"Let you out" , "Escape" ...same thing Z-Man .


The Flying Thing is a well-known fact ( just like your escapes ) . "They" just don't tell you , as it is supposed to be YOUR "Secret" project .

I men, really, would you do their bidding if you knew it was only to help them ?
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: zombie on June 29, 2015, 09:05:43 PM
Why does everything have to be fractal-ated?

I knew that you were thinking that they were thinking I didn,t know what you all know but what you didn't know is that they knew that I knew that you knew. What they didn't know is that I knew what they would do if they found out that I knew what you know so I hid the keys in my bum.



Down came the rain, and washed the spider out!
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: bluesin on June 30, 2015, 01:04:04 AM
Why does everything have to be fractal-ated?

I knew that you were thinking that they were thinking I didn,t know what you all know but what you didn't know is that they knew that I knew that you knew. What they didn't know is that I knew what they would do if they found out that I knew what you know so I hid the keys in my bum.



Down came the rain, and washed the spider out!



We knew that     ;) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: zombie on June 30, 2015, 03:10:40 AM
Dratt!

Back to the drawing board Pinkey!
(http://media.giphy.com/media/3mKBXLpYeLzUY/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: bluesin on June 30, 2015, 05:20:03 PM
Dratt!

Back to the drawing board Pinkey!
(http://media.giphy.com/media/3mKBXLpYeLzUY/giphy.gif)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-xrnIXQ3iQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-xrnIXQ3iQ)
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: zombie on June 30, 2015, 10:33:53 PM
Ludicrous...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be6tunbRcs8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be6tunbRcs8)
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: bluesin on July 01, 2015, 01:32:27 PM
Ludicrous...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be6tunbRcs8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be6tunbRcs8)


Pretty smart for a Jack-O-Lantern
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: zombie on July 01, 2015, 04:57:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXnO_FxmHes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXnO_FxmHes)
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: bluesin on July 01, 2015, 11:31:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW2jSLuHlz4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW2jSLuHlz4)
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: zombie on July 02, 2015, 12:30:57 AM
He was a incredible. How anyone could come up with the routines he did...

I kinda like that Jack Nicholson for Pres. idea. he'd have my vote.
Title: Re: XC500 WOT from stand still and consequences.
Post by: bluesin on July 02, 2015, 12:49:32 PM
He was a incredible. How anyone could come up with the routines he did...

I kinda like that Jack Nicholson for Pres. idea. he'd have my vote.

I'd have gone with Newman/Redford before Paul died ( RIP) ,. Now??? Maybe Clooney and his wife .