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Title: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: Aceforever on January 05, 2015, 05:54:41 AM
Hey y'all,

Happy new year! Your friendly Spiderman is back.

Kymco  2006 Agility 125:
To all the Experts, I need to decide whether it is easier to replace the whole seat by buying a used or new one or take to a auto trimmer and replace the seat cover?
I would do it myself but as you can see I have no experience. I've looked on youtube and seems a little hard to do it. Anyone here replaced the seat cover before?
I looked on ebay for seat covers and it cost around $100 for the seat cover. However, for a brand new one it cost $180 free delivery: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Genuine-Kymco-Seat-PN-77200-LGB6-F10-T01-Suits-Agility-125-KN25SR-2010-/141248642214?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20e3133ca6 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Genuine-Kymco-Seat-PN-77200-LGB6-F10-T01-Suits-Agility-125-KN25SR-2010-/141248642214?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20e3133ca6)

I have a question about buying the new seat. If I have a 2006 model and I want to buy the new seat 2010 model, will it be the right fitting?

I don't know how to check it. I really appreciate your help.

P.S I forgot to add seat cover price from ebay: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BLACK-STITCH-CUSTOM-FITS-KYMCO-PEOPLE-125-LEATHER-SHORT-SEAT-COVER-ONLY-/231307747279?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item35db041fcf (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BLACK-STITCH-CUSTOM-FITS-KYMCO-PEOPLE-125-LEATHER-SHORT-SEAT-COVER-ONLY-/231307747279?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item35db041fcf)

Many thanks in advance
CHEERS :)
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: BettinANDlosing on January 05, 2015, 06:51:05 AM
Doing a seat cover is easy, just use a staple gun to attach martial inside the seat. The aftermarket covers never fit good imho. I tend to lean towards a new seat. All the agility 125 seat are the same. A '10 will fit yours.
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: de dee on January 05, 2015, 07:43:12 AM
if you are adding height to the seat , it is not to hard, if you have to cut down take it to a professional,.  I added 4 " to my seat and cut out the round bump that fits over your helmet when in the metin box, and I used rebond foam, 10 lb. per cubik foot,. and I moved the butt   stop back about 5 "now I can ride for a couple of hundred miles and take a walk when I fill up with gas. then do it again,  81 years old , cant hardly walk but I can ride all day,.
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: Aceforever on January 06, 2015, 05:30:40 AM
Doing a seat cover is easy, just use a staple gun to attach martial inside the seat. The aftermarket covers never fit good imho. I tend to lean towards a new seat. All the agility 125 seat are the same. A '10 will fit yours.
Hey bet, I emailed the ebay seller about the seat (2010 Agility 125 model) but he/she said it doesn't fit on a 2006 model? Is this correct?

I found a picture exactly the same as mine: http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/attachments/parts-other-items-sale/72353d1255345637-2008-kymco-bug-agility-125cc-scooter-near-new-resized640x480_img_2446.jpg (http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/attachments/parts-other-items-sale/72353d1255345637-2008-kymco-bug-agility-125cc-scooter-near-new-resized640x480_img_2446.jpg)

I checked the cover on ebay and they said the same it won't fit on my one. So I guess a brand new it is then.
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: Aceforever on January 06, 2015, 05:32:38 AM
if you are adding height to the seat , it is not to hard, if you have to cut down take it to a professional,.  I added 4 " to my seat and cut out the round bump that fits over your helmet when in the metin box, and I used rebond foam, 10 lb. per cubik foot,. and I moved the butt   stop back about 5 "now I can ride for a couple of hundred miles and take a walk when I fill up with gas. then do it again,  81 years old , cant hardly walk but I can ride all day,.
Hey de, wow too technical for me my friend. I just want to replace it ;)
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: BettinANDlosing on January 06, 2015, 07:35:01 AM
I haven't noticed a difference before. Does the seller allow returns? I'd be really surprised if it didn't fit.
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: zombie on January 06, 2015, 12:27:35 PM
I went to 2 different youtube vids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6NpaX0Zzb8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6NpaX0Zzb8)    2006 agility 125

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASDzJun4UXU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASDzJun4UXU)    2012 agility 125

Both seats look identical
Then I went to Kymco Parts Monster to look for different part numbers... There is only one seat listed.

Unless Ebay is selling the wrong cover to begin with there shouldn't be an issue.
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: Aceforever on January 06, 2015, 01:21:31 PM
I haven't noticed a difference before. Does the seller allow returns? I'd be really surprised if it didn't fit.
I will message them and see.

I went to 2 different youtube vids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6NpaX0Zzb8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6NpaX0Zzb8)    2006 agility 125

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASDzJun4UXU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASDzJun4UXU)    2012 agility 125

Both seats look identical
Then I went to Kymco Parts Monster to look for different part numbers... There is only one seat listed.

Unless Ebay is selling the wrong cover to begin with there shouldn't be an issue.
Interesting. I looked at the seat again and here is the part number: Genuine Kymco Seat Part# 77200-LGB6-F10-T01 Suits Agility 125 (KN25SR) 2010
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: MooseMax on January 06, 2015, 02:18:55 PM
Very easy DIY job.  My local fabric shop sells faux leather vinyl for about $10.  Watch a few Youtube vids on replacing motorcycle seat covers.  Remove a staple and take it to a hardware store for a match in length.  Use a screwdriver or pliers to remove the staples (wear goggles).  Pull the new fabric tightly around all corners & bends or you'll end up with slight buckling.  You should be done in an hour.  Post pics when you're done!
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: bluesin on January 06, 2015, 02:24:41 PM
Company called Cheeky Seat Covers will make a cover for you. You can even give them a Spiderman design .

scooterseatcovers.net/
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: zombie on January 06, 2015, 11:14:54 PM
Quote
"Interesting. I looked at the seat again and here is the part number: Genuine Kymco Seat Part# 77200-LGB6-F10-T01 Suits Agility 125 (KN25SR) 2010"

tHAT'S THE SAME PART NUMBER i CAME UP WITH.
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: zombie on January 06, 2015, 11:19:29 PM
Wow!~ They have great prices for custom covers. I'm impressed.

If you take that route use ONLY Monel Staples. Arrow makes them for all standard size guns. They are an inexpensive version of Stainless Steel, and will not rust or rot out.
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: Aceforever on January 07, 2015, 06:43:11 AM
Hey guys very sorry this is what I should of done earlier so what you think:
(http://i58.tinypic.com/flbvgm.jpg)

Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: Aceforever on January 07, 2015, 06:51:29 AM
Post pics when you're done!
I posted a pic of my ripped seat. I got the idea from you well pretty much common sense that I should of taken a photo in the first place and posted in the OP lol

Company called Cheeky Seat Covers will make a cover for you. You can even give them a Spiderman design .

scooterseatcovers.net/
I checked it out. Looks awesome and I would get the spiderman design but there are not many for the Agility 125.

Wow!~ They have great prices for custom covers. I'm impressed.

If you take that route use ONLY Monel Staples. Arrow makes them for all standard size guns. They are an inexpensive version of Stainless Steel, and will not rust or rot out.
Would I need a new foam? Im not sure if the foam in the picture is suppose to look like that or does it not matter?

Im just waiting on ebay seller to message me for returns on brand seat.
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: bluesin on January 07, 2015, 02:57:30 PM
Looks like you probably need a new seat due to the foam .
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: MooseMax on January 07, 2015, 11:04:11 PM
Jeez, what happened?

You only really need foam under your butt, so i would shave the rest down a bit until it appears even.  It doesn't have to be perfectly smooth, because the cover will even things out.  I shaved mine with a power drill and a wire brush attachment, which you can see on the bottom right.  It shaves off like butter!


(http://i.imgur.com/6DoLdCU.jpg)
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: zombie on January 07, 2015, 11:07:54 PM
An electric carving knife works wonders as well...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqodjNexy7w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqodjNexy7w)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEsIVPTkk4g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEsIVPTkk4g)
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: Aceforever on January 08, 2015, 07:35:48 AM
Hey guys, cheers for that. Zombie that would be way hard for me to do lol.
I've been phoning around for a new seat and only manage to find one workshop who could do it.
$300 seat + labor. As for upholstering, wow the price was too much $450 when I gave them the photo?? I think the new seat is my best option.

Will post back with the new seat.
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: zombie on January 08, 2015, 03:27:37 PM
The shop obviously had no idea what needed to be done or how to do it.
I work w/ a fella here in town that charged me 40 bucks to make my cover. Granted it was a favor, and just for the cost of materials. 100-150.00 is a fair price for the whole job. 450.00 is a raping.
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: bucray on January 08, 2015, 04:09:46 PM
scooterseatcovers is closed
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on January 08, 2015, 10:05:39 PM
If you decide to recover yourself after adding some new foam...I highly recommend using sailrite 4-way stretch brand vinyl. It is a purpose-made motorcycle seat covering that stretches to help remove a lot of the wrinkles and pleats...and beats the living snot out of Mom's Fabric Store vinyl. Youtube the demo. How to Recover a Motorcycle Seat Using Stretch Vinyl Fabric - Using Allsport Vinyl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sANLPfZ9BSY#ws)
Stig
(been there done that on a scooter seat)
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: zombie on January 08, 2015, 11:52:58 PM
Stig,
Respectfully, what they are showing is a custom cut/sewn seat cover. I can bend plywood to fit if it is pre shaped.

BUT on the same track... The material they use for vinyl tops on cars is of the same genre, and it really does bend the way you want.

The only draw back is the fact it has no seams, and does look like a pulled over cover.

I guess there are as many ways to cover a seat as there are active posters here. MY first, and only recommend is to find a Marine re-cover shop (I didn't want to go to the trouble of spelling Upholstery), and have them do it.
Auto shops think they are gold, and same for most bike shops. A mom, and pop Marine shop will laugh at how easy this job is, and charge accordingly.

I had to spell Upholstery after all so it didn't save me anything by avoiding that word in the first place. Hell...
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: Aceforever on January 09, 2015, 02:09:16 PM
Hey guys, is the 06 seat compatible with the 07 seat?
Title: Re: Replacing the whole seat or seat material?
Post by: zombie on January 09, 2015, 04:07:46 PM
We covered that base on page one... Yes!