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Title: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: CROSSBOLT on January 02, 2015, 04:01:51 PM
You aware of the 2014 recall from Honda? Saw it on scootdawg forum. Fuel pump problems. Hope yours is not affected.

Karl
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: AMAC1680 on January 02, 2015, 05:12:08 PM
You aware of the 2014 recall from Honda? Saw it on scootdawg forum. Fuel pump problems. Hope yours is not affected.

Karl
Shhh He knows just pretends it's no biggie cause he's wearing "red tinted glasses". ;)
He's told how great Big Red did at fixing their screwup. :o

Ignores the fact that the renowned Honda quality control screwed to pooch right out of the box.
As a last ditch he'll go to an old hat Kymco warranty issue.

I feel bad for Stig. His home forum puts the Forza as a second class citizen to the PCX.
Of course the PCX is a true class leader so I get it. The Forza is an also ran in the 300 class.

Sorry but   "the emperor has no clothes"

He's a top notch guy just the Honda posts are just goofy as nobody here is yearning for that Forza.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: zombie on January 02, 2015, 08:25:25 PM
What's a Forza???
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: BettinANDlosing on January 02, 2015, 09:40:00 PM
Who's this guy Honda everyone is talking about?
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on January 02, 2015, 10:07:32 PM
You aware of the 2014 recall from Honda? Saw it on scootdawg forum. Fuel pump problems. Hope yours is not affected.

Karl
Hey Karl, thanks for the heads up.
Coming home today on my lovely HO_DA ForZa  with a bigdam smile on my face I noted my dash lights blinking. 2 quick Blue blinks.... a pause of several seconds and then one long Green blink. Then a quick triple blink of the rose/pink    light.

While sipping a fresh, dark roast Horton at home, I pulled out my leather bound Honda owners manual to see what that was all about.
Looking in the "OnBoard Display & Entertainment via Satellite Linking" pages of the manual I found the explanation for the lights:
The 2 Blue lights blinking were to let me know that the Honda engineering dept has discovered a possible anomaly with an onboard part and are in the process of Texting a maintenance solution/repair to the scooter. The green light lets me know that the scooter has received the message - and that the repairs have been completed.
I need to open the emails on the HeadsUp display by the tach - but I suspect that the rose/pink   lights are to let me know that Mother Honda is giving me 3 more free service sessions as a gift for disturbing my ride.....or they may have just changed my oils and checked the valve lash, again.

In any event....this scooter continues to amaze - and to reward my discernment.
Thanks again Karl!
Stig
I took it in yesterday to have the "12" put on my new top case....and just one more Marlboro sticker.(http://i57.tinypic.com/2co6e5f.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: zombie on January 02, 2015, 10:23:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1YhEVyOm24&spfreload=1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1YhEVyOm24&spfreload=1)
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: kingkymco125 on January 04, 2015, 07:23:06 PM
Wow Stig:
Talk about being advanced. This is cool that the scooter has all this advance technology.  Maybe all kymcos should have advanced computer technology on their bikes for when their is a problem which is I doubt is slim to none on them.
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: MoToFaLcon on January 05, 2015, 04:37:06 AM
Well then......
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: baddi on January 05, 2015, 09:40:14 AM
Wow Stig:
Talk about being advanced. This is cool that the scooter has all this advance technology.  Maybe all kymcos should have advanced computer technology on their bikes for when their is a problem which is I doubt is slim to none on them.

Well, the K-pipe has some "technology". The odometer blinks after 2000 km when it say that you need to change the oil. The mechanics nor the importer did not know about it, because it is not mentioned in the service manual, but only in the user manual. Since the next service is at 3000 km, i take this as kymco telling me that i should change the oil, but the importer claims that will remove my warranty. :p
That's the edge of electronic technology in Kymco!
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: zombie on January 05, 2015, 09:53:24 AM
Don't sell the Kymco short. It has both High, and Low beam head lamps at the flip of a simple ergonomic switch.  :-*
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: ts1 on January 05, 2015, 05:45:05 PM
NSA demands all new vehicles to have electronic links for remote control.
I praise Allah for my old vehicles and would rather buy a new Baotian, CFMoto, Dnepr or Enfield ..

BTW: In Europe, Kymcos oil lamp lighting every 2000km (i.e. Yager GT too) is only a reminder for checking oil level.
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: TroutBum on January 05, 2015, 06:28:57 PM
Not even Honda is immune to 3rd party suppliers poor QC. It's a minor inconvince and Honda will make good to its customers.
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: AMAC1680 on January 06, 2015, 01:48:27 AM
Not even Honda is immune to 3rd party suppliers poor QC. It's a minor inconvince and Honda will make good to its customers.

Of course they will.
Yet nary a recall on my Downtown...... ;)

Only an inconvenience for the Grom guys.
Honda had all three of the Forzas fixed up on no time..... ;D

Honda great bikes average scooters.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: bluesin on January 06, 2015, 02:21:34 PM
No recalls on my Downtown , either.

Does have electronic fault/error codes . Many only  need a reset through throttle .

Third year ownership = 2 new batteries ( replaced free - second one with more cranking power ), 2 new tires (nail - replaced free with my 4 year tire warranty that Kymco offered ), and stronger (3 amp as opposed to .08 amp ) in glovebox to run GPS,gloves,etc.( without direct hookup needed to battery ) and oil/regular servicing at less than $100.00 per year at Dealership.


Lucky to have Dealership that knows how to do what they are supposed to know what to do .

They promote the Kymcos above the Hondas ( that hey sell ), with exception to the Ruckus .

I feel I made the best choice for myself .

Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: gn2 on January 11, 2015, 04:29:51 PM
The Forza is an also ran in the 300 class.

Also-ran my arse :lol:
After the mid August launch in the UK, Honda sold more Forzas in six weeks of Q3 than Kymco have sold Downtowns in four years.

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/kymco_downtown (https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/kymco_downtown)
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/honda_nss_300_a-d (https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/honda_nss_300_a-d)

All manufacturers have glitches along the way, I remember early Downtowns had dodgy rear brakes for example.
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: AMAC1680 on January 11, 2015, 09:36:56 PM
Also-ran my arse :lol:
After the mid August launch in the UK, Honda sold more Forzas in six weeks of Q3 than Kymco have sold Downtowns in four years.

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/kymco_downtown (https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/kymco_downtown)
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/honda_nss_300_a-d (https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/honda_nss_300_a-d)

All manufacturers have glitches along the way, I remember early Downtowns had dodgy rear brakes for example.

My DT eats Forzas for lunch..... ;)
Hmm based on those numbers if I was in the UK my DT would be fat. :o

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: zombie on January 11, 2015, 10:57:42 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
That's a hoot!
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: bluesin on January 12, 2015, 03:35:10 PM
My DT eats Forzas for lunch..... ;)
Hmm based on those numbers if I was in the UK my DT would be fat. :o

Be Big,
AMAC



Tooo funny....my Dt woud join in ! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: zombie on January 12, 2015, 08:43:47 PM
It's too late...
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: bluesin on January 12, 2015, 10:16:32 PM
It's too late...


Ah, yes, good old Christine ! Love that Gal! ;)
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on January 12, 2015, 11:18:02 PM
OK, most folks have a box camera of some kind -
So, here we will post our fav views of said scoots.
I'll start us off since you guys are camera shy (or really can't stand the look of your scooter?)
(http://i60.tinypic.com/auifzq.jpg)

(http://i60.tinypic.com/33m4hnk.jpg)

(http://i57.tinypic.com/24b1eaf.jpg)

And the view seen by most other scooters.....(http://i58.tinypic.com/kf4en8.jpg)

Is this where the WG's will say they're too busy ridin' to take a snap of their plastic?
never heard that one before....
Stig
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: zombie on January 12, 2015, 11:54:58 PM
I had to pawn my camera. The Shylok I got my scooter money from found out where I live.
I can draw you a nice pict. with a crayon tho. My Gf's kid left some here...

I made it yellow, and put a red headlight. It's nice!
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: 2wheelfun on January 12, 2015, 11:57:15 PM
Nice looking scoot Stig!
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: AMAC1680 on January 13, 2015, 12:12:58 AM
OK, most folks have a box camera of some kind -
So, here we will post our fav views of said scoots.
I'll start us off since you guys are camera shy (or really can't stand the look of your scooter?)
(http://i60.tinypic.com/auifzq.jpg)

(http://i60.tinypic.com/33m4hnk.jpg)

(http://i57.tinypic.com/24b1eaf.jpg)

And the view seen by most other scooters.....(http://i58.tinypic.com/kf4en8.jpg)

Is this where the WG's will say they're too busy ridin' to take a snap of their plastic?
never heard that one before....
Stig

Poor Stig gotta post his pics here no home of his own. ;)
I don't waist my time snapping pics of things I already have just things I want. ;D

So I'll never take a pic of the Forza.

Be Big.
AMAC

(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/MISC/i-Cnd4Hbq/0/M/image-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: bluesin on January 13, 2015, 05:36:09 PM
I just find that it is way too difficult to post pictures ( sizing issues ) here. I will not use Tapatalk,or other photo uploading sites.

Ocassionally , I am lucky enough that I can enter a URL from F.B., but- that is only a luck of the draw.

I don't use my phone as a camera...it is a PHONE .

I do not carry my Nikon D3200 with me (regularly) ... TOOO expensive and to bulky to carry in the Otter Case .

I do not carry my Samsung (point and shoot) regularly ,either, as the Pelican Case is more than I want to carry around and this forum continues to tell me I must "shrink" the pictures to upload .More work than I want to do to "show off"  my ride .

Should it be made easier to upload, directly, and avoid all the B.S. it involves - I might consider posting more pictures .


I think once I have posted a picture of my bike , that unless I accessorize it or (God Forbid ) damage it - it does not look any different.

I have posted pictures of rides I have taken on it (with a picture or two/three of the bike ) ,but- it appears that certain members want to see the bike in every shot . Like I said the bike does not wear makeup, nor does it wear clothing/jewelery , etc. that might change how it looks.

So-- my three cents worth...make of it what you may .


Enjoy your rides (safely) !    :)


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=762624023815423&set=pb.100002034986316.-2207520000.1421170534.&type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=762624023815423&set=pb.100002034986316.-2207520000.1421170534.&type=3&theater)
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: zombie on January 13, 2015, 08:00:33 PM
Meeeeeeooooooowww Phhhhhhhhttttttt Rrroooooowww.

Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: bluesin on January 13, 2015, 08:23:04 PM
Meeeeeeooooooowww Phhhhhhhhttttttt Rrroooooowww.









 ;)
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: 2wheelfun on January 13, 2015, 10:01:16 PM
I was checking MSRP on a few 300cc models and the Forza is right there amongst them, not extremely higher. I was surprised, of course on the Kymco you can get a deal on a 2 or 3 year old new stock. Honda maybe not.
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: AMAC1680 on January 14, 2015, 12:12:40 AM
I was checking MSRP on a few 300cc models and the Forza is right there amongst them, not extremely higher. I was surprised, of course on the Kymco you can get a deal on a 2 or 3 year old new stock. Honda maybe not.

Yep the Forza is priced right, lot of tech for the buck and a nice scoot all around.

That said I went 2013 leftover DT last June for 3200.00OTD. It was a whim purchase at that point as I really had my eye on the BMW. As it turns out I didn't need the extra power.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on January 14, 2015, 12:28:07 AM
You folks have me laughing so hard I can't hold the camera still!
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2yltc75.jpg)

Some quiet time is what you need....(http://i61.tinypic.com/116krvp.jpg)

All the stuff going on in the world....and folks get exercised over pix of the wrong scooter.
BTW- thanks for posting them 2nd time!
Stig
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: zombie on January 14, 2015, 02:30:30 AM
We all need to laugh... It wouldn't be the same with out you here.

Rock on Forza dude!
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: AMAC1680 on January 14, 2015, 02:51:13 AM
You folks have me laughing so hard I can't hold the camera still!
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2yltc75.jpg)

Some quiet time is what you need....(http://i61.tinypic.com/116krvp.jpg)

All the stuff going on in the world....and folks get exercised over pix of the wrong scooter.
BTW- thanks for posting them 2nd time!
Stig

Not exercised just feel bad for the guy that has nowhere else to post his Honda pics.
Poor left out Forza not a place to call its own........ ;)

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: zombie on January 14, 2015, 05:26:27 AM
You're gonna make him cry Mac... I don't want to see this on the news.
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: AMAC1680 on January 14, 2015, 10:12:56 AM
You're gonna make him cry Mac... I don't want to see this on the news.

Stig will be fine as he's made of the toughest metal. Who else rides all winter wayyyyy up there?
Very few. I know he's tougher than his scoot...... ;)

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: bluesin on January 14, 2015, 02:44:37 PM
Also-ran my arse :lol:
After the mid August launch in the UK, Honda sold more Forzas in six weeks of Q3 than Kymco have sold Downtowns in four years.

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/kymco_downtown (https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/kymco_downtown)
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/honda_nss_300_a-d (https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/honda_nss_300_a-d)

All manufacturers have glitches along the way, I remember early Downtowns had dodgy rear brakes for example.




Is the NSS 300 a Fordza ? 

Downtown sales :

It’s not just a new unit, and an attractive design but is about the version 350i Kymco bestseller a little lighter and more luxurious. Introduced in 2009, after more than 100,000 copies sold ,Downtown has undergone a thorough redesign. In addition to new and attractive design, there are technical modifications, which include serial Bosch ABS system, but  saved also six pounds.


I see 100,000 DTs sold since mid-2009 .
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: zombie on January 15, 2015, 10:55:41 PM
You forgot to ad the Hi, and Low beam headlight... Both of these unbelievable actions are controlled via: one simple to operate, and ergonomically designed "Comfort Switch" .

Just the thought of it make me all gushy inside. Oh my.
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: gn2 on January 20, 2015, 06:03:11 PM
I see 100,000 DTs sold since mid-2009 .

Where did you get that figure from?
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: bluesin on January 20, 2015, 08:32:47 PM
Where did you get that figure from?


Motorcycle review magazine...don't recall which one...several made same reference ...maybemotorcycleusa.com ...why?  You a Honda dealer ?


Copied/pasted directly from review .
Title: Re: Hey, Stig! Honda Grom/Forza recall
Post by: AMAC1680 on January 20, 2015, 09:00:59 PM

Motorcycle review magazine...don't recall which one...several made same reference ...maybemotorcycleusa.com ...why?  You a Honda dealer ?


Copied/pasted directly from review .

I've seen the same numbers in a few places.

http://www.motorcyclesreviews.net/kymco-downtown-350i/ (http://www.motorcyclesreviews.net/kymco-downtown-350i/)

Don't know if he's a dealer or just a Honda guy on a Kymco forum. The Forza is selling in dribs and drabs particularly in the US and that comes from people at Honda.

Those that accuse me of being a Honda basher have never seen what's been in my garage over the years. I'll say it again honda makes some great cycles but average scooters.

To be fair I should say Honda "offers" average scoots in the US. 
It is what it is and the Forza is a good scooter, that's it.

Be Big,
AMAC