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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Agility 125 => Topic started by: bluescoot125 on October 30, 2014, 02:29:04 PM

Title: Gasoline question
Post by: bluescoot125 on October 30, 2014, 02:29:04 PM
My agility 125 only has a 1.3 gallon tank so when I buy premium gas arnt I only getting whatever was left in the hose from the last person?
Title: Re: Gasoline question
Post by: arcanum70 on October 30, 2014, 02:59:06 PM
Yes.  If your gas station has only one hose and all three grades use it, the first gallon is whatever the last person that bought gas got.  Where I buy my gas each grade has it's own hose, so when I put premium in, I know that is what I am getting.  If you want to use premium (it's what I use) then it may be worth finding a station that has a separate hose for each grade of gas at the pump.
Title: Re: Gasoline question
Post by: de dee on October 30, 2014, 04:14:19 PM
Yes.  If your gas station has only one hose and all three grades use it, the first gallon is whatever the last person that bought gas got.  Where I buy my gas each grade has it's own hose, so when I put premium in, I know that is what I am getting.  If you want to use premium (it's what I use) then it may be worth finding a station that has a separate hose for each grade of gas at the pump.

  do what I do go to the gas bar with car turn the hose on in the car then fill up a 5 gal can with gas for the scooter amen!
Title: Re: Gasoline question
Post by: bluescoot125 on October 30, 2014, 06:07:07 PM
  do what I do go to the gas bar with car turn the hose on in the car then fill up a 5 gal can with gas for the scooter amen!
this is what I've been doing there's a place that sells no ethanol premium and I go out of my way to get it and fill the car before I fill my scooter can
Title: Re: Gasoline question
Post by: Vision on October 31, 2014, 12:18:20 AM
From what I've read there is very little left in the hose; certainly not a gallon.
Title: Re: Gasoline question
Post by: arcanum70 on October 31, 2014, 02:34:54 AM
From what I've read there is very little left in the hose; certainly not a gallon.

According to the American Petroleum Institute it's about 1/3 gallon in the hose, which is still enough to dilute it.
Title: Re: Gasoline question
Post by: BettinANDlosing on October 31, 2014, 04:04:27 AM
Ethanol free is the way to go!!!!
Title: Re: Gasoline question
Post by: Jim Moore on October 31, 2014, 09:36:32 AM
Why are you guys using premium gas? Just for the ethanol free factor?
Title: Re: Gasoline question
Post by: arcanum70 on October 31, 2014, 02:23:10 PM
Why are you guys using premium gas? Just for the ethanol free factor?

Because not everyone has the luxury of living in a state that has ethanol free gas.  I'm reminded of when my union tells me to boycott Walmart...My response is usually to tell them that if they want me to boycott Walmart I will when they build me a viable alternative to them.  For some reason when someone lives where they have choices, they think that everyone has those same choices.  So, to answer your question, that is why I buy premium gas and not ethanol free.
Title: Re: Gasoline question
Post by: BettinANDlosing on October 31, 2014, 03:29:12 PM
The price difference to fill the scoot with 92 is hardly anything, that's why I do. Not all premium is alcohol free.
Title: Re: Gasoline question
Post by: Jim Moore on November 03, 2014, 10:53:17 AM
Because not everyone has the luxury of living in a state that has ethanol free gas.  I'm reminded of when my union tells me to boycott Walmart...My response is usually to tell them that if they want me to boycott Walmart I will when they build me a viable alternative to them.  For some reason when someone lives where they have choices, they think that everyone has those same choices.  So, to answer your question, that is why I buy premium gas and not ethanol free.

Sorry, bro. I have no idea what you're tryinig to say.l
Title: Re: Gasoline question
Post by: Jim Moore on November 03, 2014, 10:57:39 AM
The price difference to fill the scoot with 92 is hardly anything, that's why I do. Not all premium is alcohol free.

I don't think it does you any good to fill up with premium. The engines on these things have a pretty low compression ratio. They don't need premiom. In fact, running regular gas may make your scooter a little more powerful.
Title: Re: Gasoline question
Post by: de dee on November 03, 2014, 01:05:21 PM
Why are you guys using premium gas? Just for the ethanol free factor?

YES !!! I buy 92 oct. gas at Canadian tire for the ethanol free gas,  I tried reg. gas and got 200 miles out of it,  went back to 92 and got 225 miles out of it,
Title: Re: Gasoline question
Post by: BettinANDlosing on November 03, 2014, 08:22:10 PM
I don't think it does you any good to fill up with premium. The engines on these things have a pretty low compression ratio. They don't need premiom. In fact, running regular gas may make your scooter a little more powerful.

There is no way a higher ping rated gasoline will lower performance. My 250 has a 300cc kit installed with higher compression, so 92+ is a must, not to mention the ignition timing is cranked up too. A 92o non-eth will have lower "ping" than a 10% eth 92o. That is why turbo'd cars run 80% eth gas. Either way it probably does not do much good to run 92 in most scooters, but most owners manuals will say use 90o gas, so I would at least use that.

De Dee, I too have found eth-free to DRASTICALLY improve fuel mileage. It's borderline worth the price ($4.50-$5 compared to $3.15-$3.50) but I rest easy when my scooter sits for a couple weeks and I know it doesn't have ethanol absorbing water into the gas. If I ever go pre-mix with my 50cc two stroke I will have a 5gal tank of mixed gas hanging out in the garage.
Title: Re: Gasoline question
Post by: arcanum70 on November 03, 2014, 08:29:00 PM
Sorry, bro. I have no idea what you're tryinig to say.l

I'll type slower next time.
Title: Re: Gasoline question
Post by: bluescoot125 on November 08, 2014, 07:55:58 PM
The main reason I asked this question was because I am putting I away for the winter and I know the ethanol is bad for storage and just bad period for small engines. I use premium because I want the best performance I can get and the manual recommends it like most recreational vehicles. when I found this station 10miles away that sells ethanol free gas I'm willing to drive and pay for it for my scooter. it was more expensive, I think regular was $3.20 or so and this stuff is about $4.25+ but my scoot get 85mpg so id rather put the good stuff in it. and im not sure who said it but it makes no sense that regular could be better.
Title: Re: Gasoline question
Post by: bluescoot125 on November 08, 2014, 08:02:17 PM
if you guys are wondering where you can get ethanol free I found a website called pure-gas.org it gives a state by state directory of stations that sell ethanol free. that's how I found the station near me!