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Title: AGILITY 50 / OIL CHANGE
Post by: juniorbear5531 on October 05, 2009, 05:32:52 PM
GOING TO CHANGE THE OIL ON MY AGILITY 50, LOOKING THRU THE OWNERS MANUAL I GOT FROM DEALER IT DOESN'T OFFER MUCH INFO. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY HELPFUL TIPS? ???
Title: Re: AGILITY 50 / OIL CHANGE
Post by: juniorbear5531 on October 05, 2009, 05:39:12 PM
I GOT 10W/40 SYNTHIC, IS THAT WHAT I NEED TO USE AND HOW MUCH DOES IT TAKE?
Title: Re: AGILITY 50 / OIL CHANGE
Post by: wordslinger on October 06, 2009, 10:40:09 AM
...750 ml at the change...
Title: Re: AGILITY 50 / OIL CHANGE
Post by: benhogan73 on October 15, 2009, 06:27:57 PM
There is a bolt on the bottom of the crankcase.  Put the bike up on the center stand.  Put a container under the bolt and remove it.  Once it stops draining, put the bolt back in.  Take the old oil to Quick 10 or someplace for disposal.

Get a ketchup squirt bottle from the dollar store and fill it with the proper amount of oil.  Take out the dipstick and squirt the oil in.  Put the dipstick back and check the level.

Clean it all up and you are DONE!!

Tim
Title: Re: AGILITY 50 / OIL CHANGE
Post by: wordslinger on October 15, 2009, 06:34:51 PM
I GOT 10W/40 SYNTHIC, IS THAT WHAT I NEED TO USE AND HOW MUCH DOES IT TAKE?

..that will suit you just fine...change it often, as these engines run pretty hot and the oil breaks down fairly quickly..I change mine every 500-600 miles..But I ride at least 40 miles daily, with most of that time at full throttle...

peace
Title: Re: AGILITY 50 / OIL CHANGE
Post by: axy on October 15, 2009, 07:10:08 PM
..that will suit you just fine...change it often, as these engines run pretty hot and the oil breaks down fairly quickly..I change mine every 500-600 miles..But I ride at least 40 miles daily, with most of that time at full throttle...

peace

.. and I think I am crazy because I change the oil religiously every 2000 kms!
Title: Re: AGILITY 50 / OIL CHANGE
Post by: garibaldi on October 16, 2009, 05:19:05 AM
Just a thought, but I'm thinking I wouldn't spring for the cost of synthetic if I was changing it at 500 miles! Ouch! There goes the gas money savings! lol. I don't think even the cheapest standard oil would break down that fast. I bet it looks brand new coming out. I'd recycle that oil by running it 2nd hand it in my scooter. LOL. ;D

Has anybody ever done an oil analysis? I've heard of it, but never bothered... I'm so inconsistent that it wouldn't do me any good to know! lol. For those who are real strict about their oil change intervals, wouldn't it make sense to pick a specific oil to stick with, and get an analysis done at, say, 500, then 1000, then 1500, etc. until you KNOW where the oil breaks down? You might find that a good synthetic will get you 2000+ miles? That could save a lot of time and money once you know. If someone were to do that, it would give everyone some sort of a rough idea of how long oil actually lasts. A quick google search shows it is about $22 from several different companies. Any volunteers?
Title: Re: AGILITY 50 / OIL CHANGE
Post by: zombie on October 16, 2009, 05:45:53 AM
When I was racing super moto on Long Island,( Mako 490) I changed my oil After every days riding. Anywhere from 2.5 to 30 miles. It turns out cheaper than cranks/ cases/ gears/ clutches...
Title: Re: AGILITY 50 / OIL CHANGE
Post by: wordslinger on October 16, 2009, 10:39:35 AM
..it is what it is...I check it...if it even looks like it needs to be changed...whoosh!!..out with old and in with the new...

..keep in mind that I have over 37,000 km on th old girl...

 ;D
Title: Re: AGILITY 50 / OIL CHANGE
Post by: axy on October 16, 2009, 12:27:00 PM
Just a thought, but I'm thinking I wouldn't spring for the cost of synthetic if I was changing it at 500 miles! Ouch! There goes the gas money savings! lol. I don't think even the cheapest standard oil would break down that fast. I bet it looks brand new coming out. I'd recycle that oil by running it 2nd hand it in my scooter. LOL. ;D

Has anybody ever done an oil analysis? I've heard of it, but never bothered... I'm so inconsistent that it wouldn't do me any good to know! lol. For those who are real strict about their oil change intervals, wouldn't it make sense to pick a specific oil to stick with, and get an analysis done at, say, 500, then 1000, then 1500, etc. until you KNOW where the oil breaks down? You might find that a good synthetic will get you 2000+ miles? That could save a lot of time and money once you know. If someone were to do that, it would give everyone some sort of a rough idea of how long oil actually lasts. A quick google search shows it is about $22 from several different companies. Any volunteers?

Some "cafe bar" analysis:

On my Agility 125, air cooled, the oil is completely black after 100-200 kms.

On my People 250 S, water cooled, the oil is quite yellow even after 3000 kms.

So, I`d say that oil in Agility is under quite a stress...
Title: Re: AGILITY 50 / OIL CHANGE
Post by: zombie on October 17, 2009, 01:22:38 AM
EGGZACTTLEY, Better safe than sorry. This does not change the thread however. The proof is in the pudding. I have bought scoots from the 1970's that are still running on the dealers prep.
Title: Re: AGILITY 50 / OIL CHANGE
Post by: wordslinger on October 17, 2009, 12:19:04 PM
Just a thought, but I'm thinking I wouldn't spring for the cost of synthetic if I was changing it at 500 miles! Ouch! There goes the gas money savings! lol. I don't think even the cheapest standard oil would break down that fast. I bet it looks brand new coming out. I'd recycle that oil by running it 2nd hand it in my scooter. LOL. ;D

Has anybody ever done an oil analysis? I've heard of it, but never bothered... I'm so inconsistent that it wouldn't do me any good to know! lol. For those who are real strict about their oil change intervals, wouldn't it make sense to pick a specific oil to stick with, and get an analysis done at, say, 500, then 1000, then 1500, etc. until you KNOW where the oil breaks down? You might find that a good synthetic will get you 2000+ miles? That could save a lot of time and money once you know. If someone were to do that, it would give everyone some sort of a rough idea of how long oil actually lasts. A quick google search shows it is about $22 from several different companies. Any volunteers?

..i'll sell you this stuff all day long, my friend...CHEAP!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: AGILITY 50 / OIL CHANGE
Post by: garibaldi on October 20, 2009, 05:25:15 PM
..i'll sell you this stuff all day long, my friend...CHEAP!!!

 ;D

Wow. That's amazing. My diesel suburan would love to use it as fuel, but I think I'll pass on using it as motor oil. :)
Title: Re: AGILITY 50 / OIL CHANGE
Post by: juice on October 20, 2009, 05:38:10 PM
Oil turns black because of contaminants and thermal breakdown . Synthetic oil is much more resistant to thermal breakdown , so especially for air cooled engines without wet clutches the synthetic should last much longer . Just my 2 cents lol . good luck .
Title: Re: AGILITY 50 / OIL CHANGE
Post by: wordslinger on October 20, 2009, 05:51:41 PM
Wow. That's amazing. My diesel suburan would love to use it as fuel, but I think I'll pass on using it as motor oil. :)


..yeah, the first cpl times I changed i was like...wtc!!...something's gotta be wrong here!!

..I do plan on giving the synthetic a try as soon as I use up all the stock i have...
Title: Re: AGILITY 50 / OIL CHANGE
Post by: zombie on October 20, 2009, 09:24:11 PM
Maybe you could trade to shaka for spark plugs! Just a thought...
Title: Re: AGILITY 50 / OIL CHANGE
Post by: Shaka on October 20, 2009, 09:56:24 PM
LOL!  I've got a whole bag full!  :D
Title: Re: AGILITY 50 / OIL CHANGE
Post by: zombie on October 20, 2009, 11:50:27 PM
It's ALL good bro...
Title: Re: AGILITY 50 / OIL CHANGE
Post by: wordslinger on October 21, 2009, 08:34:55 PM
Maybe you could trade to shaka for spark plugs! Just a thought...

...Shaka's a plug choppin' son-of-a-gun...