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Title: Super 8 150 vs. Movie 150 "Prices"
Post by: MoToFaLcon on July 19, 2014, 02:32:13 AM
Can anyone tell me why the movie 150 is more expensive than the super 8 150?  I'm just very curious.
Title: Re: Super 8 150 vs. Movie 150 "Prices"
Post by: BettinANDlosing on July 19, 2014, 03:11:30 AM
Movie Taiwan, super 8 china. Movie 4 valve, super 8 2 valve. Movie fancier lights led etc, and better plastic. The movie is a very "premium" 150cc scooter. Oh yeah and the movie has rear disc brakes.
Title: Re: Super 8 150 vs. Movie 150 "Prices"
Post by: MoToFaLcon on July 19, 2014, 06:20:41 AM
Movie Taiwan, super 8 china. Movie 4 valve, super 8 2 valve. Movie fancier lights led etc, and better plastic. The movie is a very "premium" 150cc scooter. Oh yeah and the movie has rear disc brakes.
Thats why lol, ok thx, i completely understand now!  :-[
Title: Re: Super 8 150 vs. Movie 150 "Prices"
Post by: DeeAir on July 20, 2014, 04:26:36 PM
There is also a lot of cargo space in comparison. Underseat fits Large full face with room to spare for a bag of groceries too. There's also a very large open console in the front for on the go access. Not sure about super 8 but it also has dual rear shocks.
Title: Re: Super 8 150 vs. Movie 150 "Prices"
Post by: MassScoot on July 25, 2014, 09:01:16 PM
Bettin nailed it. Everything he said is "spot-on" Do I think it's worth $3199.00? No way. If I'm not mistaken....Kymco dropped the retail price $200.00 since last year. You're so much better-off with a SYM HD200, that will run circles around the Movie 150! I was @ my local dealer getting my GT300i serviced in the Spring & they had a Movie 150 in the showroom. It's so damn tiny! I guess if you're 160 lbs. & 5'8" then you'll be happy.

The Movie 150 isn't a great option IMHO. Kymco needs to set-up & give us an affordable 150cc+ w/ FI & W/C, aside from the Like 200 (163cc with no w/c) I'm a Kymco fanboy, but the Movie 150 isn't worth it IMHO. 
Title: Re: Super 8 150 vs. Movie 150 "Prices"
Post by: BettinANDlosing on July 25, 2014, 10:12:27 PM
We've only been able to sell one because of the price.
Title: Re: Super 8 150 vs. Movie 150 "Prices"
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on July 26, 2014, 01:50:14 AM
Bettin nailed it. Everything he said is "spot-on" Do I think it's worth $3199.00? No way. If I'm not mistaken....Kymco dropped the retail price $200.00 since last year. You're so much better-off with a SYM HD200, that will run circles around the Movie 150! I was @ my local dealer getting my GT300i serviced in the Spring & they had a Movie 150 in the showroom. It's so damn tiny! I guess if you're 160 lbs. & 5'8" then you'll be happy.

The Movie 150 isn't a great option IMHO. Kymco needs to set-up & give us an affordable 150cc+ w/ FI & W/C, aside from the Like 200 (163cc with no w/c) I'm a Kymco fanboy, but the Movie 150 isn't worth it IMHO. 
Dear Mass....

what's "WC" ?
Do I have one?
If not. how many do I need?
Sadly...I'm serious. No clue what a WC is.
Still in the dark after all these mos.
Stig
Title: Re: Super 8 150 vs. Movie 150 "Prices"
Post by: BettinANDlosing on July 26, 2014, 02:15:36 AM
Water cooling. I think he was referring to the hd200 which is liquid cooled. I think for the price the movie should be fuel injected. I was about to buy one at dealer cost but thought it was still very expensive. It would be a cool scoot to do some upgrades to.
Title: Re: Super 8 150 vs. Movie 150 "Prices"
Post by: MassScoot on July 26, 2014, 12:26:36 PM
Bettin' is right again. I should have mentioned water cooling vs. WC. I think the Movie would be solid if it was fuel-injected. Still, you have to be a person with a smaller frame. I would look silly on a Movie 150 myself. Why I like the HD200 more is because it's HP (horse power) @ 15.3 & it's WC & front & rear disc brakes. Plus, I love 16" rims & it's can hold a bigger person without an issue. I had a Kymco Super 8 for over a year & really enjoyed it. I paid $2200.00 brand new & never had a problem except a clog on one of jets carb. jets a few weeks after I purchased her. I sold it for the HD200 & it's night & day. Guess it should be for the extra $1100.00   
Title: Re: Super 8 150 vs. Movie 150 "Prices"
Post by: BettinANDlosing on July 26, 2014, 06:22:32 PM
Careful with the hd200 cooling system, they rust like a mo go if you aren't careful. Change out often and use anti rust coolant. I've seen so many rusty cooling systems on those, but its an awesome scoot. Super fast.
Title: Re: Super 8 150 vs. Movie 150 "Prices"
Post by: DeeAir on July 27, 2014, 05:59:52 PM
Size of a scooter is very subjective. I'm 5'10 205lbs and have no issues with it being too small. Personally, I prefer the scale of small/medium sized scooters which is why I was choosing between the super 8, agility 125, vespa 150 and the movie. As soon as you start looking at anything beyond 150, the size of the frame for scooters, in our market, gets significantly larger.  At that point, the size would maybe offset any hp gains other scoots may have and I would have considered a "cafe" style motorcycle at that point. Again for me, its all about the scale which is what intrgued me to a scooter vs bike to begin with. The movie had all the specs of a premium scooter ie. Dual rear shocks, frt and rear disc brakes, updated engine from super 8 and more cargo space even compared to some 400-650cc scooters.
As for the carbs, it seems that Kymco could not put the FI in the N. American market mainly to reduce the cost of the scooter as there are shipping/duty's that they have to consider which will be reflected in the MSRP. The manager at our dealership also mentioned that most scooter and even motorcylce technicians in North America are not as intuitive to work on FI vs the traditional carb set up. Furthermore, carbs are very very easy to maintain to begin with and most issues are resolved by their owners if there is a bit of neglect. Yes, FI would have been a nice addition for engine efficiency and possibly a bit more top end but, of all the things to be compromised to keep the scale of the scooter and the price point where it is, FI would be on the top of my list. I'd rather have a scooter with a proven carb setup thats made in Taiwan and with Kymco's QC than one thats built in other countries to save on production costs.

 Real world usage is the key when considering this scooter. At least for me it was but thats why manufacturers have different models because not everyone sees things the same way.