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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: HillsOhNo on September 30, 2009, 02:57:43 AM
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Our super 8 50 4t has these on as standard but am wondering what they may be like in winter.
Anyone taken a pair through the winter months etc.
I ask as we approach the darker, wetter times and we got the super 8 a bit cheaper because of a few scrapes etc possibly the Cheng Shins.
To reshod the beast is £150 the two fitted, a bit high but is it maybe a good investment ???
Many Thanks Mark.
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..My A50 came with those tires...I rode thru rain, sleet, 20 degree - 100 degree F for over a year...They're a little slippery...I now have an Avon Viper Stryke on my front, and it sticks like glue...Kenda on the back, but that's because I hadn't found the Avon tire before I bought the Kenda...It's gonna be Avon when it's replaced...
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I am still running the stock cheng shin tires on mine. They are soon to be replace though, just because they are worn out! They actually did pretty well in adverse conditions last winter. You just have to be cautious when corning in the rain. I would recommend that for any tire though. They never really got loose or felt sketchy, I was fairly happy with them. :)
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Hi thanks Folks, did you see my other post, re the only rear fit on the super 8 is a Heidenau 66 120/80 14 supposedly very good in adverse conditions, for the front the same 66 best fit is 110/80 14, same profile etc.
Not as cheap as some as german, but get a good revue.
By what you say I think we will run the rear until its done about 2k kilometers at a guess then wap on this set.
Best Mark.
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I've seen other posts,re: Hiedenau, and find it hard to believe there is NO option on that tire size! I have not looked but, I would look for the next size up for a more competitive tire. I'm NOT knocking the Hied., just thinking... options are good...
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Well rear wheel with slight down gearing is a the conti twist 120/70 14 but they don`t seem to have a front near match. Supposed to be good though.
Our front is fine but was told we should upgrade that when we do the back as good on the rear plus cheng shin on the front will not a happy bunny make !!!
Shame we can`t get an avon as they are really cheap and apparently very good.
Bit of a duff do as a recent bike and unusual size and only now people are coming to need a tyre so not much on offer.
Any thoughts what you could try for the rear 120/80 14 or front 100/80 14.
Best Mark.
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Amazon.com: PIRELLI DIABLO 120/80S-14 SCOOTER FRONT TIRE #1661400 ... Avon Viper Stryke AM63 Scooter Tires - RevZilla Motorsports Here are 2 I found w/ google, I realize shipping from the U.S. may hurt a bit, but there are some choices...
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Can you squeese a 120/80 14 on the 100/80 14 front rim and inside the mudgaurd etc ???
Only the conti here did a 120/70 14 rear, the viper etc were just front.
Best Mark.
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Bro... I have trace lines on my rear tire!~ I'm gonna say right here, and right now...*If it fits tune it*
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The best move you can make is to ditch the cheng shin crap and slap the Pirelli's on there ASAP! Motorcyclesuperstore.com. FREE SHIPPING! The money will be well spent. It will be like a new bike with some good rubber.(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj309/Dawsman_2008/IM000850-1.jpg)
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Trouble is theres no pirelli fit for those tyres 120/80 14 rear and 100/80 14 front.
I wonder if theres a 130/80 14 rear may go on or a if a 120/80 14 front but looks like a bit tight there going up 20.
Anyone with a super 8 try it yet ???
Or looks like it will ahve to be the Hiedenau`s, anyone have experiance of those, the 66.s
Thanks for the help etc.
Best Mark.
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I am still running the stock cheng shin tires on mine. They are soon to be replace though, just because they are worn out! They actually did pretty well in adverse conditions last winter. You just have to be cautious when corning in the rain. I would recommend that for any tire though. They never really got loose or felt sketchy, I was fairly happy with them. :)
..I ran my front cheng for over 34,000 km....
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I guess the base line of all the guess work is ...ALL maunfactures have different rolling rates over 1 mile on the SAME size tire. The 120...is the width, the 80 is the height. You are asking the right questions, but it seems no-one has the definitive answer. Perhaps if you try emailing all the scoot shops you can find on the web, someone will have THE answer. Experience counts for everything! I'm a try it for myself kinda guy, and I like to find I can figure it out.
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So can we sneak a 120/80 14 on to the front 100/80 14 rim ??? please.
Also if on the rear we go for the conti twist 120/70 14 how much would that down gear it, very very slightly etc, is there a formular for a % etc.
Many Thanks Mark.
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BRO! you are asking the GYPSY for the future! I have a 130x60 Kenda rear tire on a 2004 kymco zx/50 super fever. If you look up the recomended tire size, I'm SURE that's NOT IT! Any place you shop will give exceptions. Stop over thinking ... P.s. 120x70x12 front
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Trouble is the 14 inch tyres choice is a very small one, and more costly !!!!
We are throwing cash at the bike at the mo anyway but £150 fitted for 2 heidenaus is way too much for a run around.
Best Mark.
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Tires are probably the least of your worries at this point. I would just run the chengs till they are gone. I've got 13500 kms on mine! They last forever! The rubber is a pretty tough compound, I've been trying to wear them out, they just keep going!
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Yes. The Cheng Shins will run forever. Thats not the issue. They are a bad tire. The profile is not a round profile, they have raised center and a sever slope down to the sides. If you never turn sharp or lean the scoot over in turns youll never notice the bad angle. But if you ride aggressivley, the difference between ths CS's and some new good rubber is like night and day. Cornering is improved, overall stickiness is improved. Softer compound is much safer in wet weather IMO. $150 installed is not bad at all (try having a Honda dealer install some tires for you! Ouch! Very expensive. daws.
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Ok. The stock tyres are sh** and will kill you. I have been riding motorbikes for over 20 years and have never seen anything so bad.
I have put a Pirelli diablo 120/70/14 on the front fits straight on
On the back sits a Pirelli diablo 140/70/14 have to take off rear mudguard, no great loss.
Bike handles totally different. Turns a little slower, but firmer and with more feel and so much more grip.
Well worth the money. Yes the will wear out quicker but that is the compromise for staying upright when things turn to sh** on the road.
And yes the stock tyres go off after around 4k miles or 7k odd Kim's. still tread left but no grip.