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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Agility 125 => Topic started by: Vision on June 28, 2014, 05:59:47 PM

Title: Checking Oil Level
Post by: Vision on June 28, 2014, 05:59:47 PM
It's strange that the owners manual never mentions the proper method for measuring oil. With the bike on center stand, you'll get two different readings depending on which wheel is touching the ground. It seems the bike is more level with the rear tire touching, so I use that. Some guys on youtube use the front tire.

What say you?
Title: Re: Checking Oil Level
Post by: MaryK on June 28, 2014, 09:22:06 PM
with my GV250 scooter, the front wheel is the one that touches ground naturally, so that is how I read the dip stick.

scoot safely,
Title: Re: Checking Oil Level
Post by: zombie on June 28, 2014, 09:37:33 PM
It's a TINY difference. Don't sweat the small stuff.
Title: Re: Checking Oil Level
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on June 29, 2014, 12:00:52 AM
If you're like the Stig, you need to move several pounds of those tools and spare parts forward under your seat....the Front tire should be touching on level ground for safety's sake when starting the scoot.
The box of emergency Moon Pies & tuna sandwiches can stay where they are, not much weight there.
Just sayin'
Stig
Title: Re: Checking Oil Level
Post by: Vision on June 29, 2014, 11:20:27 PM
Ok, another question. Why do oil change videos tell you to run the engine for a few minutes before an oil change? In doing so you're moving oil out of the bottom of the pan where it drains from.
Title: Re: Checking Oil Level
Post by: Vision on June 29, 2014, 11:21:32 PM
If you're like the Stig, you need to move several pounds of those tools and spare parts forward under your seat....the Front tire should be touching on level ground for safety's sake when starting the scoot.
The box of emergency Moon Pies & tuna sandwiches can stay where they are, not much weight there.
Just sayin'
Stig


I want to be like The Stig. How do I become more like The Stig?
Title: Re: Checking Oil Level
Post by: BettinANDlosing on June 29, 2014, 11:26:52 PM
Front wheel, it's actually the reason why the rack says "5kg max" so the front wheel stays on the ground on the center stand. The reason to run the scoot before its to warn up the oil a bit, more will come out the thinner it is.
Title: Re: Checking Oil Level
Post by: Vision on June 30, 2014, 12:19:07 AM
Front wheel, it's actually the reason why the rack says "5kg max" so the front wheel stays on the ground on the center stand. The reason to run the scoot before its to warn up the oil a bit, more will come out the thinner it is.

That's a big help. Thank you!

Some videos say after the change to run it a few minutes and check the oil level again. Does that make sense to you?
Title: Re: Checking Oil Level
Post by: zombie on June 30, 2014, 12:25:23 AM
On larger engines with lots of oil ports... yes. On engines that have canister filters... yes.
On scooters no.
Title: Re: Checking Oil Level
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on July 03, 2014, 10:01:00 PM
An environmental issue and health reminder:
A tuna sandwich with onion has a slightly longer 'under-seat-shelf-life' than without.
Even so, for the air breathers and tree huggers out there - do not go much past 2 weeks without checking on the sandwiches. Remember, it gets warm under there and it's dark. Great for cheese making - but , to paraphrase Colonel Hal Moore - "gets pretty sporty for tuna sandwiches!"
Stig
Title: Re: Checking Oil Level
Post by: wkreps on July 30, 2014, 03:53:27 PM
Ok, another question. Why do oil change videos tell you to run the engine for a few minutes before an oil change? In doing so you're moving oil out of the bottom of the pan where it drains from.
Warming the oil is just to help it drain better.
Title: Re: Checking Oil Level
Post by: BettinANDlosing on August 03, 2014, 04:12:01 PM
Warming the oil is just to help it drain better.
A small amount of oil will be in the cylinder head after starting and warming up the bike. Also like any liquid oil expands slightly when heated hence raising the level on the dipstick. Also after a change, if your scooter has an external oil filter you have to start it to fill that filter.
Title: Re: Checking Oil Level
Post by: csor.zola on August 21, 2014, 10:26:43 AM
Ok, another question. Why do oil change videos tell you to run the engine for a few minutes before an oil change? In doing so you're moving oil out of the bottom of the pan where it drains from.
When the oil is warm becomes thinner. So it's easier to change it like that