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Title: POC Internet Scooter Warnings
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on June 10, 2014, 02:32:42 PM
Tempted to buy an internet scooter from China?
Great prices!
Pride of Cleveland Scooter shop posted these reviews:
POC report on Wildfire Scooter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1DeaqIb8MQ#)
Pride Of Cleveland test of Roketa Carpi150 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xghPzvv_3BE#)
Pride Of Cleveland Scooters Xingyue Scooter Report (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSkWJ-xlaYI#)
Pride Of Cleveland VONROAD scooter test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shd9pgyB_0s#)
Title: Re: POC Internet Scooter Warnings
Post by: GLV55 on June 10, 2014, 03:03:59 PM
There are a lot of unscrupulous dealers out there, unfortunately. And a lot of cheap Chinese crap scooters. Glad there are good dealers willing it put out videos for the general public warning them about these pieces of crap. Always go with a reputable brand and dealer - you get what you pay for! Thanks for posting, Stig.
Title: Re: POC Internet Scooter Warnings
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on June 10, 2014, 04:51:28 PM
We have so many regulations for imported cars - it amazes me that such junk can be sold as a motor vehicle.
When I go to Florida every year I see so many Chinese scooters....and have visited a dealer that sells nothing but -
It is hard to tell by looking what you are getting when you write the check.
Some say it is possible to get a decent running Chinese scooter  - but probable if you buy a brand name.
And then there's safety of construction...
Stig
Title: Re: POC Internet Scooter Warnings
Post by: tortoise on June 10, 2014, 06:29:30 PM
Pride of Cleveland Scooter shop posted these reviews
On the other hand, if properly maintained and not abused:

Acworthpatrick has around 50,000 miles (knows difference (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19356405#post19356405)) on his Automoto (http://www.everythingautomoto.com/apps/forums/topics/show/12856397-so-close-to-50k) (GY6-B (http://www.scrappydogscooters.com/gy6-200_GY6-B_case.html) engine).  Some other GY6-B scooter variations (http://www.powersportsmax.com/index.php/cPath/38_102).

Unknown if he still rides the scooter in this video (standard GY6 engine).

My review of my Chinese 150cc Scooter after 26,000 miles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26R9wzXqME4#ws)
Title: Re: POC Internet Scooter Warnings
Post by: zombie on June 11, 2014, 02:16:04 AM
I am (of course) with Tortise on this... If the dealer is a mess then ANY bike he sells will be a mess.

We all know about cheap bikes. We own them. (how quickly we forget eh)
Title: Re: POC Internet Scooter Warnings
Post by: Porkie on June 11, 2014, 12:46:29 PM
POC: Piece of CHIT.

Sam:)
Title: Re: POC Internet Scooter Warnings
Post by: tortoise on June 11, 2014, 02:28:11 PM
Speculating that many GY6 engine failures can be attributed to "wide-open-throttle syndrome":
Example 1 (http://www.reddit.com/r/scooters/comments/26udz6/wolf_brand_blaze_ii_150cc_2000_miles_and_a_blown/)
Example 2 (http://www.reddit.com/r/scooters/comments/27uu17/i_think_i_ruined_ny_scooter_please_tell_me_im/)

They "are what they are" . . but if running in extreme heat conditions, it might be prudent to change GY6 engine oil more frequently with a heavier weight (https://youtu.be/_wh7YATMFNY?t=2m15s), monitor cylinder head temperature (http://symforum.com/index.php?topic=2722.0) with an indicator (http://www.trailtech.net/digital-gauges?cat=19), and back off full throttle a little.

Performance fans (http://itistheride.boards.net/thread/5823/scooter-elements-aftermarket-cooling-review?page=1&scrollTo=66354) typically flow LESS air.