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Scooters - 50cc => Super 8 => Topic started by: Chris0381 on June 10, 2014, 11:02:56 AM
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I know someone who wants to sell a 2010 exhaust. I may want to buy it and try an exhaust mod. Not sure if its from a 2T of 4T.
Would both a 2010 2T or 4T exhaust fit a 2013 2T. ?
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They are different inside, and out. They will not swap. Sorry.
You can look up the par numbers, and see.
http://www.kymcopartsmonster.com/p/Kymco-Parts (http://www.kymcopartsmonster.com/p/Kymco-Parts)
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If it's a 50 it's 2t. All the 50cc S8 are 2t and will work just fine.
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agility 4t muffler 2013
1830A-LDC8-M30 MUFFLER COMP $129.35
people 2t 2010
1830A-KFA6-E10 ! MUFFLER ASSY | is a saleable item. $122.62
They both HAVE to be 2t mufflers.
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A bit confusing now.
Thanks anyway I'll hold of buying it.
This is what I was going to buy :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-OEM-stock-2010-Kymco-Super-8-50cc-Dealer-Take-Off-Muffler-Assembly-/171338113192?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27e48c20a8&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-OEM-stock-2010-Kymco-Super-8-50cc-Dealer-Take-Off-Muffler-Assembly-/171338113192?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27e48c20a8&vxp=mtr)
I am hesitant about chopping the pipes off my my original exhaust.
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That is a four stroke 2010 pipe. It will not work on a 2t engine.
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Wrong, that's a 2t pipe!!!! Never have they made the super 8 50 in 4T !!!!! That pipe is off a 2t bike. My only question is why do you want it? Is yours bad?
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Wrong, that's a 2t pipe!!!! Never have they made the super 8 50 in 4T !!!!! That pipe is off a 2t bike. My only question is why do you want it? Is yours bad?
I want to mod it by cutting off the blind pipes and keeping my original one stock should it take a while to do.
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That exhaust will work for you. A bit expensive for that, but it'll fit no prob.
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That exhaust will work for you. A bit expensive for that, but it'll fit no prob.
Thanks Bettin. Im seeing $259 for a stock exhaust from the parts suppliers. But if it get me an extra 5 MPH and better performance on the hills, I think $120 is affordable. I cant find the pipes any cheaper that $100.
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B7L,
You beat me down... I looked at the Emissions fitting, and thought it was a 4t reed assembly.
On zooming into the Pict. you can see it is stamped KF10AA.
I stand corrected... Sorry for the confusion Chris.
$259.00 sounds too high.
The two examples I posted on top are the retail price for those pipes. Try the site I linked to double check the price. It is a 2010 S8 2t pipe
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B7L,
You beat me down... I looked at the Emissions fitting, and thought it was a 4t reed assembly.
On zooming into the Pict. you can see it is stamped KF10AA.
I stand corrected... Sorry for the confusion Chris.
$259.00 sounds too high.
The two examples I posted on top are the retail price for those pipes. Try the site I linked to double check the price. It is a 2010 S8 2t pipe
Haha yeah its a derp lookin stock exhaust for sure. And Chris, make sure you take it too a good machine shop to get it mig welded. You don't want to pay to have it done right again.
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Haha yeah its a derp lookin stock exhaust for sure. And Chris, make sure you take it too a good machine shop to get it mig welded. You don't want to pay to have it done right again.
Mig welding is where it gets expensive. Was hoping I could use pipe clamps and clamp rounded metal over it. I may need to hold off for now as I d expect a welding shop would charge more than what I paid for the exhaust pipes.
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Whatever you do, don't just house clamps or whatever. You'll lose because it WILL leak. Mig is not expensive, from my experience most machine shops charge 40-50$ minimum. It's not worth doing unless you weld it. If you UPS your exhaust top me is$50 for the whole thing plus shipping.
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Whatever you do, don't just house clamps or whatever. You'll lose because it WILL leak. Mig is not expensive, from my experience most machine shops charge 40-50$ minimum. It's not worth doing unless you weld it. If you UPS your exhaust top me is$50 for the whole thing plus shipping.
Thanks Bettin.
I'll do some thinking. Still eager to take off the variator to see if the smooth boss is actually on.
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If you go faster than 30mph then the smooth boss is on
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If you go faster than 30mph then the smooth boss is on
OK. Thanks Ill take your word for that.
I'm still trying to find a similar exhaust or solution cheaper but seems like this is the cheapest so far. Should go ahead and grab it before the auction ends and dremel it out.
If I get it, I'll seriously consider sending it to you. I'll see what I can do locally first though. For $50 shipped, I feel your looking to do someone a favor rather than tying to make money and I value a good forum member for that.
This is the result I'm looking for, I'd like to know if he upjetted it above #82 though. An no, JB weld wont work well on exhausts as he leaves that to question.: Kymco Super 8 2t (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbFGPmhSQ1Q#ws)
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Jb weld won't do it, I've tried small exhaust repairs worth it and it just burns off in s toxic smoke cloud lol. And that $50 is if you part shipping both ways. We normally charge $75
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scooter-Performance-Exhaust-System-Silver-Gy6-50cc-QMB139-Chinese-Scooter-Parts-/151047207092 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scooter-Performance-Exhaust-System-Silver-Gy6-50cc-QMB139-Chinese-Scooter-Parts-/151047207092)
Buy one of these, and be done w/ it. I've bought near a dozen, and nothing has broken on any of them.
The mounting tabs do need to be "tweaked" or spacers added but they work fine, and last. Nothing to rust or rot out either.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scooter-Performance-Exhaust-System-Silver-Gy6-50cc-QMB139-Chinese-Scooter-Parts-/151047207092 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scooter-Performance-Exhaust-System-Silver-Gy6-50cc-QMB139-Chinese-Scooter-Parts-/151047207092)
Buy one of these, and be done w/ it. I've bought near a dozen, and nothing has broken on any of them.
The mounting tabs do need to be "tweaked" or spacers added but they work fine, and last. Nothing to rust or rot out either.
TY Zombie. I contacted the seller and asked him what is needed to get this bolted on. I'll wait for his reply. Looks good and the price is good, just hope it does whats intended and I can jet properly for it.
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Dude... Sorry!!! I messed up AGAIN.
I have it stuck in my mind that you have a 4T bike. That pipe wont work.
I gotta stop buffering the Crack with Percoset.
If you want a good tuned pipe check out SPI, and see what he has. With an account you will still spend less than the OEM pipes, and actually have something that will work.
He has a whole pile of used pipes too. Some Polini pipes for under 50.bucks.
It can't hurt to call.
Sorry Bro... This whole thread has been an "off one" for me.
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Well after 2 hours of dremeling, this is the end result of removing the blind pipe and Cat pipe.
Bettin, can you work with this to weld this up? I got most of the inside pipe out, maybe a 1/16 lip left in at the most. I'll try locally to get it done but would be willing to send it out to you if no one wants the job as it may be too small for a prof. welding firm.
I am thinking about just plugging the cat pipe somehow but a crimp and weld would probably be better.
Thanks
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rz244piv5y2pgmt/exhaust-1.JPG (https://www.dropbox.com/s/rz244piv5y2pgmt/exhaust-1.JPG)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e1ud66tpilujjix/exhaust-2.JPG (https://www.dropbox.com/s/e1ud66tpilujjix/exhaust-2.JPG)
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Tool m you would be able to find a luck welder no prob, they must likely have a minimum charge of like $50. You should call around.
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Thanks
Not sure what "Tool m" means but I have contacted an old timer here that works on tractors and he'll see what he can do when I bring him the exhaust for an estimate.
I couldn't find a performance exhaust in stock in my price range.
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Haha I don't know what that means either. I use swipe to type on my phone half the time posting, need to start proofing my posts lol ðŸ˜
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Haha I don't know what that means either. I use swipe to type on my phone half the time posting, need to start proofing my posts lol ðŸ˜
OK So you weren't telling me to Tool em!! LOL
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Well you should always tool people!! I don't leave my house without my 2' breaker bar under my seat ;)
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go with the cobra muffler it is derestricted. i put one on my 2014 super 8 50 2t
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Yeah either of those will work!!! Did the hanger bolts line right up using the cobra muffler?
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WTF!! The local welder here charged me $30 to plug the CAT pipe and weld the Blind Pipe (took him 1/2 hour). I asked him to make a derestricted pipe not a freakn' reakn' crack pipe. Nice performance upgrade. I'M GETTING ADDICTED TO SPEED but the main goal is not having to move over and let cars pass on back roads.. Hitting about 39 MPH hmmm maybe 40 once or twice on the flats on a windy day so far and no bogging on the hill and 35 up a slight incline. Wondering if I should upjet from #82. Scooter feels like a fine tooth saw cutting smoothly.
Next thing I want to address is my rear wheel and tire was quit hot after that ride thru the back roads. Maybe I over used the rear brakes. Will have to find out soon enough as I'll take a ride and not use the rear brakes.
Pic of the weld job.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l6v8opd18ds4mhn/EXHAUST%20WELD.JPG (https://www.dropbox.com/s/l6v8opd18ds4mhn/EXHAUST%20WELD.JPG)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tf91z4d3eo1b23a/WATCH.JPG (https://www.dropbox.com/s/tf91z4d3eo1b23a/WATCH.JPG)
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A hot tire only equals tow things... Under inflated (don't trust just one gauge) or over loaded. Your tire may not be sufficient for your weight.
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A hot tire only equals tow things... Under inflated (don't trust just one gauge) or over loaded. Your tire may not be sufficient for your weight.
Must lose some weight then, though the scooter would be able to handle a 155 lb person. Actually the wheel its self it quite warm not just the tire.
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Got ya... Check the gear oil. It may just be hard braking but the only other reason for a hot rim is a hot gear case
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Thanks
Could be both or either. I ride a 10 speed MB a lot and I too much of a habit of using the rear brake.
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Well I just took the scooter for another 1 hr ride and stopping on the way didn't feel anything too hot on the tire. It wasn't until I parked the scooter did the tire start heating up a bit but not as hot as before as I was very light on the rear break.
The tire isn't too far away from the exhaust and the crank case also dissipates or xfers heat to the wheel. There is a lot of friction form the crankcase gears, to the variator to the clutch and its summer now.
Probably doesn't take too much breaking to build up heat on any drum break system. Also both rides today were hard rides that allowed me to finally stay with traffic and test the exhaust derestriction.
I wouldn't know how to check the gear oil as there is no fill level. I could drain it and refill it again and that might be a good idea as I'm finally at 700 miles on the odometer now; I was going to wait for 800 miles to do a second gear oil change.
Time for a few beers.
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Good for you.
I forgot it is a new bike. I would still check the gear oil.
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Nice, he did you good on those welds it looks like. Addressing your heat issue, some heat is normal if its gets actually hot too the touch something is wrong. One more thing zombie forgot, make sure you're back brake isn't adjusted too tight. Spin the wheel on the center stand and it should spin fairly freely, with just slight resistance from the final drive. I think it's a good idea to change the gear oil a couple times before 1000km (your odometer is in kilometers btw). Good job on the derestriction!!!
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Yeah I never thought the brake could actually work. (too tight).
Hate drum brakes.
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Yeah, they do what their meant to do though haha
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Thanks Bettin and Zombie, I couldn't have done it without the input from you guys. Will change the gear oil again. I think we can put this to rest hopefully and ready up for the next mod a bit later. Hope others can also learn from my experience and you guys input that made it possible.
One more question.
The small CAT pipe also extends into the exhaust about 1/8 inch but more so on my original exhaust that is now in the basement. Should I grind down that 1/8 inch that is sticking into the main pipe or let it go?
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I always just grind it flat. If your looking for a but nite performance without going to aftermarket parts, I sell old style Kymco carb setup which has a much larger venturi. Get 45-50 with that alone, Chinese jetted and ready to rock.
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I always just grind it flat. If your looking for a but nite performance without going to aftermarket parts, I sell old style Kymco carb setup which has a much larger venturi. Get 45-50 with that alone, Chinese jetted and ready to rock.
Bettin that sounds good. Lets say I bought that carb kit, would I need to do other mods.
My fear is the scooter is designed for 35 MPH and now going to 45-50 MPH, the suspension, tires, reeds, and drive belt would need to be upgraded also. Would other upgrades such as these be required once the scooter is modified to go 45-50 MPH?
Also, what is the price of the kit? I'm open to more mods but also hope to keep the scooter safe and not have it wear prematurely.
I may have to bite the bullet soon and get a Motorcycle endorsement for this scooter. They limit us to 2 BHP here in Connecticut and that may make a few 50CC TaoTao's illegal as I'm seeing 3 to 3.5 HP in their specs.
http://www.reviewoutlaw.com/taotao-scooter-review/ (http://www.reviewoutlaw.com/taotao-scooter-review/)
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Where is your Outlaw spirit?
Ct is supposed to be FULL of free thinking Patriots.
Tire upgrades are one of the first things to do to any of these 50cc scooters. It's a peace of mind thing. There is nothing else you really have to do to upgrade the carb/intake. The bike is engineered to rum in that 40-45 MPH zone. They simply DE tune them for the US DOT laws (more like guidelines to us outlaw types).
Just cause it can do 50ish don't mean you have to drive it 50ish.
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Hmm my outlaw spirit.
Well Im in a small town and people are now taking note even when stock, getting a few thumbs up as I drive down Main st.
It was a PIA the spend half a day in traffic court in New Haven a few years back for a nolly, just the thought of ending up back there makes me cringe.
But you convinced me to go for more speed but I was getting addicted anyway.
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If you get locked up I have friends inside that will look out for you. Bring a few packs of smokes. or maybe a cell phone.
PS... Tell them you're a bank robber. They don't like scooter trash in the joint.
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If you get locked up I have friends inside that will look out for you. Bring a few packs of smokes. or maybe a cell phone.
PS... Tell them you're a bank robber. They don't like scooter trash in the joint.
What are you in here for? Hmmm illegally driving a scooter ? Yep that will make me look tough.
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Get w/ these guys... Might want to bring two cell phones...
"We Bad" Subnoize Souljas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxCH7SRFOyM#)
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Just wondering what the initiation would be to join them. But the girl at work with a supped up stretched Honda Ruckus at work tells me all exhaust mods are legal in Connecticut.
Anyway time to take the scoot to work this morning and run the gauntlet, that I enjoy doing. Nothing like like a good gauntlet run to start the day and get the adrenalin going. It almost beats deep sea New England Wreck Diving.
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You hit all the high points for imitation in your post.
I'll leave it to you to arrange the words... OR is that what you did?? Clever monkey.
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Not that I would know anything about that... Buy a couple 400.00 crapper China bikes, and get one of your homie girl friends to run them back, and forth.
You can stay home getting busy in front of the Xbox.
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LOL Alright done deal.
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;) 8)