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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: Wil on September 22, 2009, 06:51:10 PM
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Hi, i have a kymco agility 50, and im bored of sitting at 32-35mph.
I've researched on how to do the washer behind the flywheel derestriction, but i've tried to understand the CDI wire cutting and cannot. I've seen many pictures, but i cannot seem to understand where to cut into it, and what wire to cut, etc. I'm only going to do these de-restrictions, as i cannot purchase parts.
I'm a complete beginner, please help soon :)
thanks, Wil :)
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Actually, reading through some of the posts, DO you just remove the washer? or do you have to add a de-restricted washer in there?
thanks
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Hello Wil, and welcome to the forum!
The cdi "wire cut" is a little confusing, as you cannot actually see the wire..it is inside the casing of the cdi...
..If you look at the pics, you can identify the correct edge by removing your cdi, place it beside the pics, and just file it away...maybe use a hacksaw...that'll work too..make the cut look like the one in the pic...then just cover the little gap with some electrical tape or epoxy...
..and for derestricting your variator, no washer will be required, as it is the washer that is actually "restricting" how close your pulley halves can come together...
peace
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Hi, i have a kymco agility 50, and im bored of sitting at 32-35mph.
I've researched on how to do the washer behind the flywheel derestriction, but i've tried to understand the CDI wire cutting and cannot. I've seen many pictures, but i cannot seem to understand where to cut into it, and what wire to cut, etc. I'm only going to do these de-restrictions, as i cannot purchase parts.
I'm a complete beginner, please help soon :)
thanks, Wil :)
..There are a couple of other things that you can do to give your scoot a bit more power, and they're free...
..however, since yours is a 2005, I would need to discuss a little further with you the condition of your scooter, mileage etc.
...try the two things below, and hit back...there are a lot of ppl here that can give you some pointers...
peace
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I dont know if ive got the guts to do it! is it easy?
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There shuold be 2 pink w/ yellow wires going into the cdi, actually creating a loop. you can cut either of those 2 to derestrict the cdi. No sweat! Read through alot of the older posts, there is a ton of info in them that will apply to your scoot.
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There shuold be 2 pink w/ yellow wires going into the cdi, actually creating a loop. you can cut either of those 2 to derestrict the cdi. No sweat! Read through alot of the older posts, there is a ton of info in them that will apply to your scoot.
..zombie, Is therer a difference between the 2005 and 2008 cdi?
..I ask because, my 2008 does not have pink/yellow wiring...
..below is a pic of mine..
..I removed the pic from this thread, so as not to confuse anybody with how to make the cut...Mine was not done the way we're explaining it...
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Mileage is just past 1000 :)
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I do believe you are right slinger, I saw another post w/ a similar set up. I think it was the same year as yours, but a diff version. If wil does not have the pink/yell, then your post is the way to go. wil... as you cut into the cdi, you are looking to cut a 14awg wire that is encased in the epoxy. If you remove the hack saw every 1/8" of cutting and look inside your cut you will see the new bare ends of the wire. you should use epoxy to seal the cut so as not to allow water to get at it. Also try to cut at a 45% angle. You should see the wire before you get to 1/2" deep at the center.
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14awg?
is it just a little copper wire?
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Yes, just a small copper 14 "American Wire Gauge" wire. ;)
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I do believe you are right slinger, I saw another post w/ a similar set up. I think it was the same year as yours, but a diff version. If wil does not have the pink/yell, then your post is the way to go. wil... as you cut into the cdi, you are looking to cut a 14awg wire that is encased in the epoxy. If you remove the hack saw every 1/8" of cutting and look inside your cut you will see the new bare ends of the wire. you should use epoxy to seal the cut so as not to allow water to get at it. Also try to cut at a 45% angle. You should see the wire before you get to 1/2" deep at the center.
..yeah, zombie...that was from franx, and his r16, i think...Agility City 50....like the looks of that one...
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Mileage is just past 1000 :)
...hmm..a 2005 with just 1000 km?....
..I can run up that in less than a month...
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Sat in a garage for 4 years. got it on the road at the beggining of this month! lol!
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slinger has oo7 blue lites on his. You''d be supprised how many people think he's 5-0 ALL GOOD!!!
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slinger has oo7 blue lites on his. You''d be supprised how many people think he's 5-0 ALL GOOD!!!
...!!THOOMP!!...
..that's my latest mod...the tennis ball launcher....heh-heh-heh...
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Sat in a garage for 4 years. got it on the road at the beggining of this month! lol!
.....so...have you tried the cut yet??
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Hey guys, I just picked up my Agility 50 yesterday. I went ahead and followed the instructions to cut the cdi. I cut about 1/2 inch in but have not seen the copper wire (maybe I am just blind). I really don't want to cut too deep. Is it pretty obvious when the wire has been cut?
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Hey guys, I just picked up my Agility 50 yesterday. I went ahead and followed the instructions to cut the cdi. I cut about 1/2 inch in but have not seen the copper wire (maybe I am just blind). I really don't want to cut too deep. Is it pretty obvious when the wire has been cut?
..it may be that the abrasiveness of what you cut with has dragged the black plastic of the casing over the copper wire, making it not visible...If you have made your cut like the one in those two pics below, you should be OK...Did you see a difference in your engine revs? Should let it rev higher...
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I agree! run it and see... You should notice a dramatic difference. RPM's should jump from 8,500 to around 13,000. Theres no way of knowing exactly where the wire is without x-ray. I would hate to coax you into cutting too far, but a little at a time, and you should be able to see it.
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i still dont have the guts to do it.
someone will have to convince me :)
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Hi, i have a kymco agility 50, and im bored of sitting at 32-35mph.
..these are your own words..... ;D
..you sounded convinced already..
peace
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Go for it...My real name is Barock, and I can easily be reached at 1600 Pen. ave. U.S.A. If you cut too far send me the bill.
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What speeds will i get up to with JUST the rev limiter off, and not taking the washer off the flywheel?
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What speeds will i get up to with JUST the rev limiter off, and not taking the washer off the flywheel?
...man, you really should do both....really.....
..the increase in rpm may cause your belt to ride in the same location on your pulley halves if you don't remove the drive boss limiter, in turn causing undue wear on your variator as a whole...
..and it's not the washer on the front of the flywheel, it's the one between the two pulley halves...
..just in case you weren't sure..
peace
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I'll do both when my parents arnt in one weekend :)
will insurance still cover if the bike is de-restricted?
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...laws vary from state to state..here in NC, insurance is not required on anything lower than 50 cc....(KYMCO Agility 50 is actually 49 cc) However, the speed limit for such vehicles is 35mph....
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i have the rs version of the agility and just wanted to know if this still applies to cutting the cdi
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i have the rs version of the agility and just wanted to know if this still applies to cutting the cdi
what's the rs look like??
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Does the cutting of the wire increase chances of the engine overheating, and blowing up? what are peoples experience? how long have they been going, and this hasnt happened?
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Your own common sense will prevent any over running on the engine. The restrictions are only there so the scoot will meet the import laws in certan countries, like the US. A 50 cc scooter does not require a drivers liscence in MOST states with the condition being they are not allowed to exceed 35 mph. the restrictions on the engine are there for this reason alone
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i stupidly tried to derestrict my cdi on my agility rs. it now does not start and if by chance it does it will not run. i have searched everywhere for a new one but everywhere only has the cdi for the normal agility which is different to mine. can any help or supply one for me.
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i stupidly tried to derestrict my cdi on my agility rs. it now does not start and if by chance it does it will not run. i have searched everywhere for a new one but everywhere only has the cdi for the normal agility which is different to mine. can any help or supply one for me.
..wow, that sucks...what did you do to your cdi that was so wrong?
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i over cut it and it over heats
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..ouch..with yours, I think you shoulda cut the pink wire....
:(
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do you know where to get another one cheap cheers
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..does your scoot have a pink wire going to the cdi?
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no it has purple blue and i think green
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..mine are black/blue..blue/yellow and green...you have a purple instead of black?
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2 green 2 black 1 black/blue 1purple 1purple/blue
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..well you're right ..It appears to be the same as the City...
..Not many of those around here..I'll help you look for a cdi...
..good luck! :)
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many thanks. are you from the USA as I am from the UK if that makes a difference
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..yeah, I'm from the US..in north carolina...don't know if I'll have much luck finding anything...
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that is ok. not sure about going to the dealer but he might not touch it after what i did
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..I think there might be a different method of de-restricting that cdi...
..different than the ol' hacksaw cut thing...
..your dealer should certainly be able to get you one though...
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I have posted for some others , you can buy a Suitai (factory oem) cdi dirrect. They will "program" the unrestricted cdi, and ship it out for approx the same cost as the restricted unit from the dealer. You can google them. Suitai. All the contact info is on their site. Sorry to hear the bad luck!
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tank you very much