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Title: How far is to far?
Post by: joebro on May 23, 2014, 04:06:42 PM
How hard do you push your scooter or motorcycle? Does anyone feel this is bad or harmful to push one as long as your below the redline? Personally I run my S9 below the red line most of the time and occasionally right at the red line (rev limiter is not removed) and I feel that its not to much of a strain on the motor.
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: AMAC1680 on May 23, 2014, 04:25:09 PM
Under redline I'd run it till the body can take no more.
Ifs that's not the case ya got the wrong scoot !

Enjoy.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: Porkie on May 23, 2014, 05:32:40 PM
Common sense says that the higher you keep the rpm's, there will be more wear. Four stroke or 2 stroke both wear. It's been my experience from building and racing both 4 stroke and 2 stroke motorcycles, that 2 strokes don't like prolonged high rpm's at or near redline.

Sam:)
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: 08087 on May 23, 2014, 06:46:39 PM
I don't have an RPM gage on my peoples 200 but at top speed you can hear the eng. sound like she's tripping over herself (that's the only way I can explain it), sounds like over reving but I've never hit a limiter assuming I have one on my scoot.

I always back off a few MPH and she seems to be more comfortable. Now on a better built eng. like an outboard motor which will run all day at top rpm.
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on May 23, 2014, 06:51:00 PM
How hard do you push your scooter or motorcycle? Does anyone feel this is bad or harmful to push one as long as your below the redline? Personally I run my S9 below the red line most of the time and occasionally right at the red line (rev limiter is not removed) and I feel that its not to much of a strain on the motor.
Youse is some kinda guy!
Pushing my scoot out of the garage gets me winded if I haven't had my coffee....never get anywhere near the red line, even if she gets away from me and heads towards the mail box!
Stig
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: ophelia on May 23, 2014, 08:06:29 PM
I don't mind running four strokes at redline as long as the engine oil has had time to rise to operating temperature. When the oil is warm and flowing everywhere, there is a minimum of wear.

Beware that engine coolant warms up quicker than engine oil. Coolant may be at operating temperature, but the oil may only be lukewarm!
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: joebro on May 23, 2014, 08:13:08 PM
Well keep in mind its 50cc 2 stroke liquid cooled so it redlines (8000rpm) at about 45 to 50 mph (I usually only go about 35 40 and run at 6500 to 7000rpm). I assume thats normal? My current setup is all stock except my boss drive.
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: blue on May 24, 2014, 02:14:51 AM
X2 I just injoy rideing at a good pase.but yet again I love the speed of ,45 or better.
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: 2wheelfun on May 27, 2014, 12:10:34 PM
This topic is one reason I wanted at least a 150 scoot, around the areas I intend to ride speeds are 35 to 50 with a lil power to spare. To me a 50cc is just not enough oomph, if you have to redline it always that should ring a few bells in your thought process's. It does cause more wear and tear on the scoot or any machine.
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: de dee on May 27, 2014, 02:55:31 PM
two wheel fun that is the reason I got a 300i downtown, good riding other side of town, speed to get there 70 to 80 mph.  or the traffic will run you down,. cages are nuts,.
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: 2wheelfun on May 27, 2014, 03:43:07 PM
50cc does have its advantages though, parking legal on a side walk, no tags or reg, no M endorsement, cheaper ins etc.. I could see myself at 70 riding a Honda metro for short trips, not now though.
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on May 27, 2014, 03:54:30 PM
50cc does have its advantages though, parking legal on a side walk, no tags or reg, no M endorsement, cheaper ins etc.. I could see myself at 70 riding a Honda metro for short trips, not now though.
They'd be great for getting across WalMart from the ammo isle to the Depends~!
 Will keep this is mind....for when I get old.
Stig
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: DMblues01 on May 27, 2014, 03:58:45 PM
They'd be great for getting across WalMart from the ammo isle to the Depends~!
 Will keep this is mind....for when I get old.
Stig

Hey, I work at a Walmart! I wish they'd let me ride my scoot around the store.
It would be SO much easier to chase down shoplifters running for the exit!!

 ;D
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: joebro on May 29, 2014, 04:28:32 AM
50cc does have its advantages though, parking legal on a side walk, no tags or reg, no M endorsement, cheaper ins etc.. I could see myself at 70 riding a Honda metro for short trips, not now though.
Yep always loved those advantages! For now I can deal with only going 35 mph considering its saving me money. But riding a scooter in Walmarts a killer idea, might just have to try that sometime.  ;)
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: joebro on May 29, 2014, 04:30:12 AM
Darn someone beat me to riding through Wally World. Motorcycle Through a Walmart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeRt-zeRGMA#)
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: kfc.android on June 12, 2014, 05:21:35 PM
I'm planning for a 400 miles trip in one day, so it will be 800 miles round trip on my DT300i
anyone done that before? My plan is to take 80% HWY and cruising at 70~75 mph, any comments/thoughts?
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: de dee on June 12, 2014, 05:39:57 PM
riding in wally world , I think he has propane for fuel, thats legal indoors,.   
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: MaryK on June 12, 2014, 05:45:07 PM
Some times when I rear a topic title my brain goes in a strange path....

"How far is too far ?"  Answer:  When she slaps you !

scoot safely,
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: AMAC1680 on June 12, 2014, 05:49:32 PM
I'm planning for a 400 miles trip in one day, so it will be 800 miles round trip on my DT300i
anyone done that before? My plan is to take 80% HWY and cruising at 70~75 mph, any comments/thoughts?

I rode from jacksonville fl to virginia beach and back in three days right after break in on my DT300. I did as I have with any bike be it the HD or my old people 200. I'm a early riser so I ran i95 for a couple of hours from 5:30 am until about 7:30. Then I duck off on to the side roads.

That's if I had to be somewhere on a given date. If not all back roads for me !
Can't see America from a super slab so all the "charm" is on the side.

Enjoy the ride.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: kfc.android on June 12, 2014, 05:58:16 PM
I rode from jacksonville fl to virginia beach and back in three days right after break in on my DT300. I did as I have with any bike be it the HD or my old people 200. I'm a early riser so I ran i95 for a couple of hours from 5:30 am until about 7:30. Then I duck off on to the side roads.

That's if I had to be somewhere on a given date. If not all back roads for me !
Can't see America from a super slab so all the "charm" is on the side.

Enjoy the ride.

Be Big,
AMAC

Thanks for the tips and thoughts, I am planning to take US-101 LA<->SF so I won't be killed on the CA autobahn (aka I-5)
Thinking about to leave around 6am and just take it easy as long as I got there before sunset :)
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: 08087 on June 12, 2014, 07:00:58 PM
Riding a distance on a scoot that can hold highway speed is far easier then trying a trip on a 50/100/125/150. Now if you want to impress us make a 200 + mile run on a 50. GO BABY!
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: wkreps on June 12, 2014, 08:22:34 PM
"How far is too far ?"  Answer:  When she slaps you !
and says, "How do YOU like it?"

Too funny Mary.
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: Porkie on June 12, 2014, 08:36:16 PM
How far is too far ?"  Answer:  When she slaps you !

Or when you have to slap her---women are a little quick on the draw today:)

Sam:)
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: de dee on June 13, 2014, 02:57:06 AM
  I found if you walk for five to ten minuits when you fill up gas, your ride is a lot easyer,.  every 200 miles with a downtown 300i,.   
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: kfc.android on June 13, 2014, 04:56:43 PM
  I found if you walk for five to ten minuits when you fill up gas, your ride is a lot easyer,.  every 200 miles with a downtown 300i,.

Thanks De Dee, that would definitely help :) :)
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on June 14, 2014, 01:18:47 PM
I don't mind running four strokes at redline as long as the engine oil has had time to rise to operating temperature. When the oil is warm and flowing everywhere, there is a minimum of wear.

Beware that engine coolant warms up quicker than engine oil. Coolant may be at operating temperature, but the oil may only be lukewarm!
Me too,
I take my Scion up to it's 112MPH every time I go to the grocer's.
Love these 4 strokes!
Stig
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: AMAC1680 on June 14, 2014, 03:00:38 PM
Me too,
I take my Scion up to it's 112MPH every time I go to the grocer's.
Love these 4 strokes!
Stig

That's a bad azzed scion!

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: ts1 on June 14, 2014, 05:10:52 PM
I'm planning for a 400 miles trip in one day, so it will be 800 miles round trip on my DT300i
anyone done that before?
Ähm no. I have no Downi, I used a little Yager GT 125 for an iron butt ride. 1629km (1012 miles) certified. 20.5 hours riding, 2 hours sleep. Easy job.
Title: Re: How far is to far?
Post by: zombie on June 14, 2014, 07:32:25 PM
Hey, I work at a Walmart! I wish they'd let me ride my scoot around the store.
It would be SO much easier to chase down shoplifters running for the exit!!

 ;D

If you carry a .45 in your belt you simply stroll out. No one chases me. I mean the guys that do that don't get chased... LOL I said me... Ha!