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General => Technical | How To => Topic started by: Stig / Major Tom on April 09, 2014, 07:42:33 PM
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I put in a set of 18x14x14gram set of Dr Pulley sliders and slide pieces and a new OEM Kymco belt cover gasket this morning.
Took photos along the way.
I did not need a breaker bar to loosen the 2 big nuts....(from the factory - I found the variator nut to be easier to remove than the clutch nut - in spite of the torque specifications - perhaps that was because they oiled the variator nut/threads as stipulated in the cyclepedia manual?)
Removed 3 screws near the front of the lower side panel - one holds the panel the other 2 help give space to remove the belt cover.(http://i58.tinypic.com/2yza4uh.jpg)
Removed 2 screws and a 10mm bolt at rear of same panel.
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Slide panel slightly to the rear and remove.
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Unscrew these 2 bolts on airfilter - then lift a bit and tie out of the way.
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Remove all 8 of the 8mm bolts holding the CVT belt cover.
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Remove belt cover with vent hose attached. (tap with a block of wood, pry gently in several areas, I inserted a putty knife into the seam and pried on that. Do not beat on the metal cover - it can break. Take your time - it will come off! I then cleaned the old gasket off - used sheets of sandpaper to finish it up.))
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Here's what you will find with the cover off.
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Using the holding tool (eBay, amazon, etc.) to remove the variator nut.
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Remove the clutch nut.
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Apply thin coat of 3M Gasket Adhesive to gasket and scooter. Let dry then attach gasket to scooter. Holds very well! I used a thin coat of Super Lube on the edge of belt cover - hoping it will not stick to gasket next time.
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Weights are in back piece of variator pulley - new Dr Pulley sliders and 3 slide pieces installed here.
When you slide this part on the scooter - you MUST hold the assembly together so the weights cannot move into a wrong postition inside the variator
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Lightly sandpaper the faces of the 3 clutch pads to remove any glaze - and clean the corresponding area in the clutch bell with a green scrubby.
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Spread pulleys in the clutch by sqeezing them open - orient belt correctly - insert in clutch - slip assembly onto the shaft with enough slack for belt to fit over the other shaft.
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Slide on variator half with weights inside. The belt is between the 2 pulley halves . Make certain belt is loose, can move and is not being pinched by the pulley halves when being bolted down. Squeeze the clutch pulleys to get more slack in belt if you need to. Belt MUST move freely and not be pinched down in the valley of the pulleys. Your nut can come loose while riding if this is not assembled correctly! Watch a few youtube videos to see more details.
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Using the holding tool, cyclepedia says to add a drop of oil to the threads and torque the Variator Nut to 70 ft pounds and the Clutch Nut (no oil) to 40 ft pounds. I use blue locktite on both.
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Replace cover with breather hose. Gentle with the 2 locating pins. 8 screws hold the cover - now the 2 bolts holding the airfilter. Replace the lower body panel. I tied up the airfilter making it easier both in removal and replacing the belt cover.
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Tools I purchased for this service.
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Tools I used for this service.
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Great write up STIG. Curious to hear your opinion on performance difference with the sliders.
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Stig, you are the first person I have seen that used gasket sealer on the variator cover gasket.
Is this recommended or is it something you wanted?.
Scratch the question about gasket sealer. Just saw your other post where you explained.
ps: Good pics and post.
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Detailed and easy to follow. Great post.
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Stig, you are the first person I have seen that used gasket sealer on the variator cover gasket.
Is this recommended or is it something you wanted?.
Scratch the question about gasket sealer. Just saw your other post where you explained.
ps: Good pics and post.
Don't over tighten the cover with the gasket sealer... the cover might just squeeze out the sealer and leave it with nothing in there.... Just tighten a bit, let it dry a bit, and re-tighten...
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Don't over tighten the cover with the gasket sealer... the cover might just squeeze out the sealer and leave it with nothing in there.... Just tighten a bit, let it dry a bit, and re-tighten...
I hear you Vivo - but this stuff is just a paper thin coat of adhesive on each part - when dry they are stuck together....just like a contact cement in woodworking. (applying laminates or veneers). No squishing going on - on the untreated side of things I smeared a thin coat of Super Lube for later releasing of the cover from the gasket.....we hope! 20 more miles on these 14 grammers--- sure do like them! The gasket is so I can wash the scoot without worrying where the water is going under that belt cover.
Stig
Stig
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[Edit, a few weeks later.
I opened up the CVT cover today to check on things. Nuts remain in place -per the story marks in paint, no belt dust to speak of, gasket staying in place & released with no issues
Stig]
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Hello Stig,
Who sells the Clutch Holding tool that you have?
THanks
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Hello Stig,
Who sells the Clutch Holding tool that you have?
THanks
Found it on eBay. Here's one like mine - but postage is higher for this one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171179620715 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/171179620715)
Much more expensive one is made from black bar-steel, has red rubber covered handle (@$40)....but this one works great. Use a block of wood, or cheater bar, if it does not reach the floor for you.
Stig
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Thanks
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Great post Stig...
So what's the Verdict? What were the original roller weights?
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I too would like your opinion on performance difference with the sliders installed.
I have a set of DR Pulley sliders hanging on my work bench. Plan on installing them in my
GT.
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I too would like your opinion on performance difference with the sliders installed.
I have a set of DR Pulley sliders hanging on my work bench. Plan on installing them in my
GT.
Hello Boo,
That is a tough one.
I went one ounce lighter than stock - as informed - for the Dr Pulleys. But I am a very modest rider and did not like the slight increase in RPMs. So, I put in Dr Pulleys of the same weight as the stock rollers and - with the way I ride my scoot - I notice little difference.
I never get anywhere near WOT - maybe there's a difference at that end of the RPMs ?
Dr Pulleys are supposed to be "so smooth". OK, well I never found the rollers to be anything but pretty smooth as well.
So, I think KYMCO has it figured pretty well.
The DP's caused no harm - and my scoot is acting fine with them in there.
If they ever wear out I will probably just drop some OEM Kymco rollers back in there.
Sure are a lot of scooter riders who love the DP's...I think they ride their scoots harder than I do (this thing is my commute to work - not my toy - though 90% of the 5700 miles are from leisure rides)
Stig
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Actually Stig the Dr. P's "act" lighter than OEM weight so the recommendation is to go one to two grams heavier. That will keep your OEM rpms.
You found that out so it's moot.
You may have to live w/ them for quite awhile. I've been running mine for over two years with no sign of giving in.
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I too would like your opinion on performance difference with the sliders installed.
I've never found that "sliders" make any difference in performance. It's a maintenance issue. They last longer than round weights if you ride hard. But performance is the same.
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I've never found that "sliders" make any difference in performance. It's a maintenance issue. They last longer than round weights if you ride hard. But performance is the same.
What is in your bike now?