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Title: Is this America?
Post by: Vivo on October 29, 2013, 02:07:00 AM
I'm shocked.....


http://www.infowars.com/ap-photo-checkpoint-cops-point-guns-at-americans-heads/ (http://www.infowars.com/ap-photo-checkpoint-cops-point-guns-at-americans-heads/)




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Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: TLRam1 on October 29, 2013, 06:52:17 AM
Could be depending on the circumstance, but not the norm by any means. That particular picture could be a photo op for the article.
Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: ts1 on October 29, 2013, 09:14:32 AM
He is probably a terrorist. Shoot first, ask later! ::)
Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: blue on October 29, 2013, 03:14:56 PM
Thats my step son......................
Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on October 29, 2013, 07:51:32 PM
No Vivo, it's a mistake.
Police make them, soldiers make them, and sometimes civilians make them....especially when they're scared and angry.
This young policeman will be answering some tough questions from his supervisor.
Stig
Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: wakeupmaggie on October 29, 2013, 08:00:18 PM
Take it with a grain of salt.  After all, it is Alex Jones' website.
Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on October 29, 2013, 08:38:56 PM
Take it with a grain of salt.  After all, it is Alex Jones' website.
Amen!
Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: Peters on October 29, 2013, 09:55:17 PM
The gun is not pointed at his head! Look at the picture people. The photographer captured this particular angle for a reason. They want it to look like the officer is pointing the rifle at his head. He's not. The muzzle is actually pointed at the rear tire. Bunch of anti-gun BS. Now our police can't even be armed? Notice his finger is completely off the trigger. He has his firearm pointed in the safest direction possible considering this is a residential area. The officer is doing everything he was trained and ordered to do. Frankly I think it's completely appropriate after reading the article. How are we to assume the wanted person hadn't hijacked somebody's vehicle or even worse kidnapped someone. Come on guys, we're supposed to let a cop killer, (That's right! Even though they weren't killed, he still attempted to), roam free because people get freaked out over guns... Just my opinion here. I am 100 percent for law-abiding citizens owning firearms and professional officers, like the ones in the picture, doing their job.
Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: Vivo on October 30, 2013, 01:57:45 AM
Stig, is that you with the black helmet?   ;D
Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: 08087 on October 30, 2013, 09:38:54 PM
IMO the photo looks like the gun is pointing directly at his head, that said I don't buy it. If a gun of any type were pointed at my head I'd be scared sh**less, this guy is relaxed. It could be photo shopped it could be real or an exercise for these cops.

Things within (I think) 100 miles of our baorders are getting bad these days and more then a few Americans have either exited or have an exit plan in place. Do you think my questions about the chit hiting the fan are just BS questions? I'll send you a PM.
Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: TroutBum on October 30, 2013, 09:48:26 PM
Vivo, not America, Ohio.  ;)
Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on October 30, 2013, 10:54:49 PM
Put some antlers on the guy in the black helmet and the CHP would be aiming that rifle at him here in Ohier.
Was talking to Virgil in the park the other day - the shooting I was hearing were duck hunters on the reservoir he said.....Also, deer season is "just 'round the corner" so he advised me to "keep that yeller jacket on" if I'm gonna be scootering 'round at dawn.

As Alan Arkin was advised by his brother-in-law...."Serpintine!!" when scooterin thru the deer grounds!
Geez, cagers - and now scooter huntin' is in season.
Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: kingkymco125 on October 31, 2013, 02:12:32 AM
Since were on this subject I suggest you do a google search of Ted R. Gunderson. This is all I am gonna say on this matter.
Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: houndguy on October 31, 2013, 02:39:46 AM
IMO the photo looks like the gun is pointing directly at his head, that said I don't buy it. If a gun of any type were pointed at my head I'd be scared sh**less, this guy is relaxed. It could be photo shopped it could be real or an exercise for these cops.


That was the first thing that caught my eye as well.  Deserved or not if a gun was pointed at my head I would not be so relaxed.  I'm going to call "Bullsh**" on this one!!!

Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: CosmoKorny on October 31, 2013, 03:29:15 AM
Stig, is that you with the black helmet?   ;D

lol thanks Vivo I needed a laugh tonight...  Stig, you didn't answer the question.
Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: Vivo on October 31, 2013, 03:31:12 AM
Stig, you didn't answer the question.

Because, I just blew his cover...!


Stig's a cop!


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Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: ts1 on October 31, 2013, 10:32:54 AM
In Germany any unpacking/pulling the gun is already considered as a use of the gun.
A bank robber doesn't need to fire bullets for threatening.
Accordingly a cop has to face some red tape after he took a gun in his hands.

In USA, Russia and some South American and African countries you have >10000 innocent victims of gunfire / year.
In Germany about 100/year. Yes, Germany has only a population of 80 million, but that can't expain the factor 100x to USA.
Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: 08087 on October 31, 2013, 07:24:08 PM
In Germany any unpacking/pulling the gun is already considered as a use of the gun.
A bank robber doesn't need to fire bullets for threatening.
Accordingly a cop has to face some red tape after he took a gun in his hands.

In USA, Russia and some South American and African countries you have >10000 innocent victims of gunfire / year.
In Germany about 100/year. Yes, Germany has only a population of 80 million, but that can't expain the factor 100x to USA.

The only difference here is that in America we have the "Right" to own firarms, it's the last defense at stopping guys like Hitler from taking over. No offense to the German people or your great country (I'm German myself), but having the right to own a firearm(s) is a great one to have. I don't know for sure but I'd say the US had something nto do with you not having that option after the war.
Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: 08087 on October 31, 2013, 07:42:55 PM
It came directly from California's 5th largest newspaper. Look for yourself!

http://www.sacbee.com/2013/10/25/585...roseville.html (http://www.sacbee.com/2013/10/25/585...roseville.html)

http://www.sacbee.com/2013/10/25/585...roseville.html (http://www.sacbee.com/2013/10/25/585...roseville.html)

Turns out the guy they were looking for shot 4 people I think maybe cops too. That said it doesn't give cops the right to point a loaded gun in your face, accidents happen, I don't want o be one of them.
Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: ts1 on October 31, 2013, 10:20:49 PM
The only difference here is that in America we have the "Right" to own firarms, it's the last defense at stopping guys like Hitler from taking over.
LOL! Hitler (and his party) was democratically elected and chancellor. Only afterwards he started the conversion of the democratic Weimarer Republic into his Diktatorship.
You'd shoot at Hitler? At what stage of his career?
Germans don't shoot their chancellors. Unlike Americans JFK.

If distributing weapons would make the world safe, why not distribute nuclear weapons to Kuba or to Iran oder chemical weapons to US civilians? ::)
Who has the genius idea to determine in advance which individual/group will stay decent and which won't?
The USA has gained some experience with assistants turning into enemies. Saddam Husseins chemical war against Iran. Osama bin Laden and the Talibans against Russian occupiers in Afghanistan. ...
Lesson already learned or still not?

Obviously not!
Victims are dispensible.
It's all about money!
The weapon industry is the largest industry.
For the tycoons, any war is a good war!
Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: 08087 on November 01, 2013, 12:09:22 AM
First of all we're talking about guns for people here not guns for nations, but while you touched on it isn't it America that arms all the bad guys so we can then go in and take over the country after they act up?

OK the thinking in America is this (I'm pro constitution) you will never disarm all the bad guys, so why not allow the good guys the guns they have a right to?

And of couse there is this, our guns are in the hands of the people to prevent tyrants from taking full control, if Obama keeps it up he may get a meeting with his maker a bit early. Alah won't be able to protect him if som ePatriot goes off after him.

And just in case Bush and Clinton were no better but they are no longer sitting in office.


LOL! Hitler (and his party) was democratically elected and chancellor. Only afterwards he started the conversion of the democratic Weimarer Republic into his Diktatorship.
You'd shoot at Hitler? At what stage of his career?
Germans don't shoot their chancellors. Unlike Americans JFK.

If distributing weapons would make the world safe, why not distribute nuclear weapons to Kuba or to Iran oder chemical weapons to US civilians? ::)
Who has the genius idea to determine in advance which individual/group will stay decent and which won't?
The USA has gained some experience with assistants turning into enemies. Saddam Husseins chemical war against Iran. Osama bin Laden and the Talibans against Russian occupiers in Afghanistan. ...
Lesson already learned or still not?

Obviously not!
Victims are dispensible.
It's all about money!
The weapon industry is the largest industry.
For the tycoons, any war is a good war!
Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: Peters on November 01, 2013, 08:49:48 PM
First of all we're talking about guns for people here not guns for nations, but while you touched on it isn't it America that arms all the bad guys so we can then go in and take over the country after they act up?

OK the thinking in America is this (I'm pro constitution) you will never disarm all the bad guys, so why not allow the good guys the guns they have a right to?

And of couse there is this, our guns are in the hands of the people to prevent tyrants from taking full control, if Obama keeps it up he may get a meeting with his maker a bit early. Alah won't be able to protect him if som ePatriot goes off after him.

And just in case Bush and Clinton were no better but they are no longer sitting in office.

Well said

In Germany any unpacking/pulling the gun is already considered as a use of the gun.
A bank robber doesn't need to fire bullets for threatening.
Accordingly a cop has to face some red tape after he took a gun in his hands.

In USA, Russia and some South American and African countries you have >10000 innocent victims of gunfire / year.
In Germany about 100/year. Yes, Germany has only a population of 80 million, but that can't expain the factor 100x to USA.

Less gun owners there in Germany. That explains that statistic. I'm not denying the fact that there is a lot of violence in the states. Gun violence or not. There is. It's a problem. But statistics like that are meaningless.
Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on November 01, 2013, 09:14:09 PM
Because, I just blew his cover...!


Stig's a cop!


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Vivo, I wouldn't be caught dead on 10" tires. Love the  jacket though! Very smart & classy.
And i always wear white sox with black shoes -so you can tell it ain't me.
I do have a switch under my seat to brighten the jacket if need be.
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Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: Vivo on November 02, 2013, 01:35:01 AM
In our country, we all have the right to bear arms... the problem, however, is the price of guns here.. a $500.00 gun would cost around $1,000.00 here... or around P43,000.00... three months salary of an average Filipino... so, only the rich have guns.. and of course, the criminals.... the issue here, when it comes to violence is not guns... but poverty...

Going back to the topic on pointing guns to people... if you point a gun to a Filipino, just make sure you pull the trigger because we don't usually use the legal system in retaliating... it's costly... like I said, poverty is a problem... and you can pay a small amount to have somebody killed... even if that person is a cop...  ;)
Title: Re: Is this America?
Post by: MrKymco on November 04, 2013, 08:39:09 PM
you shouldn't be allowed to be so obese and stay on as a cop. desk duty, if that. why is it weight requirements must be met to get hired on as a police officer, but once on duty you can go all to crap?