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Title: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on October 18, 2013, 10:12:04 PM
Why did we buy a scooter and not a motorcycle?
(I know some of you folks have both...)

But, why a scooter ?

I think age has something to do with it for a lot of us. Maybe we used to have a motorcycle when we were younger, and now have returned to 2 wheels on a scooter.

But, what about you young guys?

Physical limitations - for some, the leg over is an issue.

Image. Scooter riders have a very different image than motorcycle riders.  How we view ourselves - and how others view us on a scoot.

Speed. Scoots usually are slower than bikes, and have less power vs weight. We don't need speed &/or power, for whatever reason.

Price. Scoots are generally a lot cheaper than a bike.

Weather protection from the leg shield. No - I doubt that's a reason for most.

Economy of service and running expenses. Maybe.

Cargo capacity. Maybe - but I doubt it's a big reason.

The Euro Look - the Cosmopolitan Look. Hmmmm.

"Roman Holiday". Wouldn't that be strange.(I look like Audrey Hepburn, with a moustache )

For me: I visited the 2 wheel dealer with my son several times. But I kept being drawn to the far side of the big store to look at the retro looking Metropolitan and Vino and LIKE scooters. Went right past the zoomy, almost sport bike looking scooters - the the retro (Vespa, Lambretta looking scoots) were what interested me - from memories of scoots from my youth. Was surprised to see that I did not have to spend several thousands of $$ (Vespa) to own a nice, reliable fun-looking retro style scooter.
But why did I buy a scooter and not a motorcycle? I liked the image of myself on a scooter - and the price and reliability were right. We also own a couple of Scions. There's a pattern there, somewhere.

What about you guys? Why a scooter?
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: JohnRambo on October 18, 2013, 10:50:23 PM
I went with a motorcycle over the scooter, glad I did too. 

I started thinking maybe I should have got a scooter for the gas mileage, then I saw the 250's only go 75 mph.  I do a lot of highway riding on my Venox and it still gets 60+ mpg!

Scooters are cool for what they are, supreme gas savers.  But I downgraded from a 600 Ninja to slow myself down, it worked, I'm still alive!
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: big blue on October 19, 2013, 12:24:08 AM
Pretty easy answer for me. The style as you mentioned, quick in town tossablility and covered storage for packages and my helmet. I had bikes when younger but I always wanted a scooter but back then it just wasn't macho enough. I also like the CVT trans for ease of operation in traffic. I almost considered a Stella but the twist and shift gearbox was a problem for my sometimes arthritic thumbs and wrist. I do like having enough giddy-up with the 163cc engine to ride on the farm roads around here and brief runs on the state highways. I do sometimes miss the tourquey ease of my Beemer though! :D
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: Vivo on October 19, 2013, 01:59:43 AM
I just need a bike with a floor and I don't want to shift gears anymore...


Some people buy 50cc scoots because of a revoked or suspended drivers license...  ;D
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: TroutBum on October 19, 2013, 04:16:17 AM
For me it was a way to ease my wife in allowing me to get back on two wheels. I had originally planned on a Vespa, but wasn't convinced at the time that a scooter long term was for me. Then the dealer introduced me to the Like. I figured if a scooter wasn't my thing I would only be out about $3,300. But as it turned out I really like riding scooters. I am extremely pleased with the Like and feel it will be with me a long long time. Also, my wife has come around to me riding two wheels. So much so that she has given me the green light on a Harley I've been wanting for a few years. I'm planning to buy a Softail Deluxe come Spring. Even with that the scooter will get a lot of use. It just so much fun to cruise around town and the backroads on one.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: tclhb on October 19, 2013, 05:09:35 AM
Storage space is actually a big reason for me. I like to wear full gear for safety, and I need a place to put my jacket, pants, etc when I arrive. I also like that I can do shopping on my scooter, and Cary things to and from work.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: CosmoKorny on October 19, 2013, 05:25:37 AM
Pee-Wee Herman was my hero

(http://i43.tinypic.com/2cshp4h.jpg)
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: CosmoKorny on October 19, 2013, 05:38:45 AM
 ;D


http://youtu.be/UVKsd8z6scw (http://youtu.be/UVKsd8z6scw)
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: kingkymco125 on October 19, 2013, 05:40:19 AM
For me, I prefer a scooter over a motorcycle. Scooters are easy tor ride over the bikes which require one to shift gears. Last month I took the Motorcycle Safety Course at the local community college here in Vegas and I was sent home after six exercises. Until that day I never rode manual transmission whether it was a car, motorcycle. I currently ride a Kymco Agility 125cc bike and I love her. All I do is twist and go. By the way I found out from the DMV I do not need a bike with gears to take the road test. As long as I do over 30mph I am good. Scooters are fun. I had 2 cheap piece of crap Chinese scooters and I could not stand. My main concern was them breaking down on me. Now with my current bike, these thoughts are a thing of the past. One other feature I love about my current bike is that it can do 65-70mph on a open throttle which I love. If I decided on a motorcycle it would be those 3 wheel cam-am bikes. 8)
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: AMAC1680 on October 19, 2013, 09:59:48 AM
When I was younger it was all HD.
Now as an older crip that can't shift due to spastic feet or swing a leg over a bike scooters keep me on two wheels.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: always loved scooters
Post by: boo on October 19, 2013, 12:38:21 PM
I don`t like a straight drive car either.
Scooters are classy and so much fun.
Nowdays, scooters run and handle like motorcycles without the hassle of shifting gears.
I`m not ashamed of riding my motor scooter, I`m proud to own and ride one.
I sold a nice sport bike and kept my scooter.
I have always loved scooters and always will.

In my area of the USA, I am seeing more and more scooters on the streets. I think that trend will continue.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: mrmike on October 19, 2013, 03:38:42 PM
   Went the Harley route when I was younger. Now the much lighter weight, auto trans, easier handling, and quiet motor have me sold. Not to mention the much better fuel mileage. I ride my scooter twice as much as I did the Harley. Fun factor 100%
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: 245luigi on October 19, 2013, 05:56:59 PM
Half my family is in Italy. When I was younger i would go for the summer. I loved going on scooter rides and seeing them all zoom around the city, going between the cars at red lights, parking wherever they wanted. So when I got me a big boy job, the first thing I got with my paycheck was a LIKE!
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: 08087 on October 19, 2013, 06:35:26 PM
The reasons I list are all equally important to the list. Size of the scoot vs. a MC, it fits into my 1 car garage behind my car during bad weather, a MC may not have been able to fit. Affordability 1,600 for an 09' w 700 miles, MPG was the main reason for not taking my car to work.

To a lessor extent the added storage is a big plus, I can grab a few items on my way home from work and store them nicely, milk, some veggies, and eggs all fit without a problem and if I need to carry more I can use the floorboard.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: mrbios on October 21, 2013, 07:25:18 AM
Automatic - no shifting.
Low maintenance.
Light - easy to handle.
wind protection
Cost - cheaper than a motorcycle.
Storage

Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: houndguy on October 21, 2013, 10:24:14 AM
I was looking for a cheaper way to get back and forth to work.  I was able to buy a Zuma 125 cheaply and I knew with the automatic transmission it would not take me long to learn to ride.  I ended up filling up the tank about once or twice a week on my commute. 

I also needed the storage space to carry my lunch, laptop and other crap in. 

When I moved and realized that I needed a bigger bike my thoughts turned to getting a motorcycle but at the time the only "bigger bike" I could afford was a 400cc Burgman.    Which I absolutely loved to ride. 

Do to circumstances I had to switch over to the Kymco.  It was not my first choice to be honest but after owning it since Feb 2013 I've put 10K miles on it and don't see myself switching brands anytime soon. 

I guess I'm just a scooterist.  :)
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: blue on October 21, 2013, 12:51:06 PM
I think its the twist and go that keeps me on a scoot. And also here in Michigan we dont have to have a cycle license to ride. It only has to have a title for it.And its your choice to have insurance or not.motor cylcles have to have insurance. THe scooters in are state fall under the no falt law.If someone hits us.Or we hit someone we pay are own damages un less we get the insurance.
So I beleave its a easy way out of spending a lot of extra cash to ride a scoot.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: ts1 on October 21, 2013, 01:45:54 PM
But, why a scooter ?
There are simply no motorcycles with decent storage (at least for a helmet) and weather protection (for legs and feet) for the small wallet.
I don't want to ride with mc boots and pants into the office and change clothes in the toilet.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: ScooterCommuter on October 21, 2013, 02:44:39 PM
For me it almost happened by accident. I'd been a motorcyclist in my misspent youth, and a few years ago my wife decided to get a scooter for short runs around town. (We were a one car family, and at the time I needed the car to get to work.) We grabbed her an agility 50. However, she had an unfortunate first ride, dumping it within seconds, ending up under it and injuring her knee and never got back on it. When I switched jobs I started using the scoot to get to the office because with that I didn't have to pay downtown parking rates :)

Fast forward a few years and the garage then contained 2 agility scoots - the 50, now completely derestricted, and a 125 I'd acquired as a non-runner and repaired. Then they shifted my office half way across the metro area and I needed something seriously highway capable. At that point it was a matter of making the "maxi-scoot or motorcycle" decision. Having thoroughly retrained myself to scooter controls by this time, the 50 got sold to a friend and it's space in the garage is now occupied by an xciting 500.

I don't see myself ever going back to a motorcycle at this point, although the new Indians might have a chance of tempting me back from the dark side
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: JohnRambo on October 23, 2013, 12:43:30 AM
When I was younger it was all HD.
Now as an older crip that can't shift due to spastic feet or swing a leg over a bike scooters keep me on two wheels.

What happened?  I mean did you have a stroke, or do you have some other neurological disorder?  Where does the spasticity come from?  Only reason I'm asking is because some guys convert their Harleys to trikes depending on the situation.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: CosmoKorny on October 23, 2013, 12:51:44 AM
PeWee Herman aside, I wanted a scooter because I am always picking up crap that is hard to carry on a motorcycle.  Out for a ride and suddenly develop a craving fo cervaza?  Case of Corona in the top case, no problem.  :)
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: ahernandez74 on October 23, 2013, 05:46:10 PM
Scooters are a lot more easily maintained than a motorcycle. Motorcycles are higher performin so thus, more maintenance and things to worry about. A scooter you can just hop on and ride. Anyone can ride one..
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: CosmoKorny on October 23, 2013, 06:51:51 PM
Scooters are a lot more easily maintained than a motorcycle. Motorcycles are higher performin so thus, more maintenance and things to worry about. A scooter you can just hop on and ride. Anyone can ride one..

lol not anyone...

(http://i42.tinypic.com/24ln3wh.jpg)


Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: blue on October 23, 2013, 08:53:25 PM
lol that pic should be under girls on scoots................
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: ScooterCommuter on October 23, 2013, 11:19:31 PM
lol not anyone...


Indeed not anyone - upthread I shared how I came to scoots and it was as a direct result of my wife dumping one within seconds of acquiring it - she never got back on and it sat in the garage, so I started using it. It really was very unfortunate - she encountered the perfect storm of inexperience, nervousness and an edge trap that wasnt very visible but it was enough for her to decide she'd only ever be a passenger (at which she has more experience than I have as a driver, since she was riding around on the back of her dads BSA when she was a tiny munchkin)
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: Vivo on October 24, 2013, 01:36:16 AM
lol that pic should be under girls on scoots................

Nope, girls on the ground...
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: speedee86 on December 20, 2013, 09:45:52 PM
well, coming from a younger guy i guess, im 27 and ride a xciting 500 ri abs.  originally was looking at motorcycles. to keep the long story short, my wife had back surgery a while back and has rods in her back. she feels more comfortable and safer on the bigger seat of a large scooter than on a bike.

i cant complane, im on 2 wheels, the wife is happy and comfortable with it, we are both comfortable, and i have 500cc's under my rump,  i can still keep up with most of the bikes i come by on the freeway. we can be comfy and i can still get my speed demon on ;) lol
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: CROSSBOLT on December 21, 2013, 08:03:35 PM
High tech Kymco! Quiet, smooth, RELIABLE! Wash em off like a car, no damn spokes to shine, more ridin', less shinin'.

Karl
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: GLV55 on December 22, 2013, 03:07:59 PM
I'll give you one really good reason for a scooter - ability to bail off in dangerous situations. I was hit head on by a drunk driver. Before impact, I was able to jump off and land on my feet out of the way. Only slight soft tissue damage to my wrist. Had I been on a motorcycle I would not have been able to get my leg over the tank. Thanks to the scooter's step-through design, I was able to get off quickly and easily. Score one for the safety factor of scooters.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: MassScoot on December 22, 2013, 03:22:17 PM
Automatic - no shifting.
Low maintenance.
Light - easy to handle.
wind protection
Cost - cheaper than a motorcycle.
Storage

Mrbios: You're somewhat correct, but you must be referring to 150cc & under scoots. Many times a 250cc motorcycle is cheaper & easier to maintain. Remember that getting @ a scooter usually requires taking off panels etc. Storage? About the same. 
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: kingkymco125 on December 22, 2013, 10:04:42 PM
One of the reasons I like a scooter is because of the gas mileage. Now that I have car again, it costs me at least $20.00 to $30.00 to fill the tank up. As for my scooter it costs me just $3.00 and change to fill my scooter up.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: paper on December 22, 2013, 11:24:45 PM
Yeah, I have both, and a variety of sizes..

In my mind, I make a half hearted attempt to keep the bike to the minimum for the ride.  By that, I mean my ride to my office doesn't require going over 45mph, with most of it at 40 and less, so I'll ride my 50 scooter.
From there (and I'm generalizing here) I ride what I can get away with.

I ride because I love to ride, and I really don't like driving.. I don't pretend to do it to save money because I think nothing of riding for an extra hour just for fun. I'm not pretending it to be green, because only one motorcycle has a catalytic converter and one of them is a two stroke. :) And it's not about being a cheap mode of transportation because I title and insure 7 bikes.

But I do like riding something out of the ordinary, and the scooter falls into that place. I'm 48 years old, 6' tall and 250 pounds and think nothing of jumping on my 250 Honda Helix and putting 500 miles on it during a weekend, riding to a BMW or Moto Guzzi Rally a few hours from home.. That includes the ride and bringing along all my camping gear... And yeah, I smile when I get asked if I really rode a scooter from IL to a rally in Michigan or Minnesota. :)

We all ride for different reasons.. I ride whatever I think will make me smile the most. :)
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: CosmoKorny on December 22, 2013, 11:28:09 PM
High tech Kymco! Quiet, smooth, RELIABLE! Wash em off like a car, no damn spokes to shine, more ridin', less shinin'.

Karl

YES!!!  I LOVE not polishing chrome.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: speedee86 on December 23, 2013, 03:59:37 PM
High tech Kymco! Quiet, smooth, RELIABLE! Wash em off like a car, no damn spokes to shine, more ridin', less shinin'.

Karl

simply and perfectly stated :)

my buddy is always complaining about having to keep the chrome on his harley clean and shinny. he is always like "your bike always looks so clean" im like, well i wash it like my car, takes 10-15minutes, maybe 25 when i decide to wax it ;)
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: paper on December 23, 2013, 04:25:11 PM
simply and perfectly stated :)

my buddy is always complaining about having to keep the chrome on his harley clean and shinny. he is always like "your bike always looks so clean" im like, well i wash it like my car, takes 10-15minutes, maybe 25 when i decide to wax it ;)

 ??? People wash motorcycles? I thought that is why I ride in the rain. :)

A co-worker bought a new BMW watercooled GS and loaded it with basically everything that was available. Pretty sure he's got 25K in it. It was a gift to himself for having to work overseas for 4 months.
Anyway, another co-worker (Harley owner)(owner because he never actually rides)  was all excited the first day the new GS was in the parking lot, sitting in the rain!!! "Your chrome is going to rust!!!"

I told him "Sit down Fonzie, there's no chrome on that bike. It's stainless and it's made to be ridden, not polished."

I feel bad about the comment, because the Fonzie name stuck..  ;D ;D ;D

I wash my bikes the same time as I prep them for winter. Sometimes I'll give them a good scrub once during the summer. I don't own them to wash them, but to ride them. But I also don't buy things to impress other people. I buy them to impress me. Shiny doesn't impress me. Reliability does.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: CosmoKorny on December 23, 2013, 05:31:21 PM


Here's my last motorcycle all polished up, a labor of love but enough of a PITA to keep me from riding in messy conditions:

(http://i39.tinypic.com/ou4pj4.jpg)

And my scooter, a little wet but nothing a 5 minute wipe down didn't cure:

(http://i40.tinypic.com/28guru8.jpg)
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: CosmoKorny on December 23, 2013, 05:40:39 PM
One of the reasons I like a scooter is because of the gas mileage. Now that I have car again, it costs me at least $20.00 to $30.00 to fill the tank up. As for my scooter it costs me just $3.00 and change to fill my scooter up.

OMG you're talking like my wife knock it the hell off.  Either talk miles to a dollar or don't, the size of your fuel tank is irrelevant.

Sorry, off my soapbox.  Going to marriage counseling tonight.   ::)
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: paper on December 23, 2013, 05:45:38 PM
  ::)

Cosmo,
The Landmark station looks familiar, but I can't place it..  Where are was that taken?

I grew up in the huge metropolis of Juda, by the way. :)
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: CosmoKorny on December 23, 2013, 07:12:27 PM
Cosmo,
The Landmark station looks familiar, but I can't place it..  Where are was that taken?

I grew up in the huge metropolis of Juda, by the way. :)

Hey paper, that is Cottage Grove, I think Broadhead has one as well.  I grew up in Cambridge (also huge) and vaguely recall running a track meet in Broadhead-Juda in the early eighties.  Small world.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: paper on December 23, 2013, 07:31:17 PM
Hey paper, that is Cottage Grove, I think Broadhead has one as well.  I grew up in Cambridge (also huge) and vaguely recall running a track meet in Broadhead-Juda in the early eighties.  Small world.

Yep.. My office is in Beloit, and I've got a Honda Silverwing riding buddy in your neighborhood in Watertown.
I'm sure you're aware of the huge amount of riding centered activities in our area.. Heck, I rode the Helix to the Crud Run last spring. :)

Before we get too off topic, PM me if you're interested in some of the riding activities and excellent rallies in the area.. While they're sponsored by other marques, they don't care who comes as long as you're willing to sit around campfires, drink a couple beers if you wish, and have a good time. :) I'll be posting a bunch of these later this weekend. They range from day gatherings like the Crud Run and the Lorem Ipsum Rally, to weekend party rallies, and also (for those interested in riding challenges) road rallies.

They're all about having fun.  :D
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: Metreaus on December 25, 2013, 12:57:22 AM
I initially looked into scooters as an alternate mode of transport. Before this year, I was a faithful user of public transit my entire life (I'm 26). The GRTC (the local bus system) doesn't run to where I work on nights/weekends/some holidays (when I actually work), so I had to get a personal vehicle to get to work.

Getting a car/motorcycle? Nah...too expensive to own (on what I make), so that wasn't happening.

So (after a little nudging), I took the scooter route which turned out to be the best choice to make. Perfect mixture of public transit and having a car (IMO). Took me about 3 PITA ChiCom scooters to get it right with Metreaus (my current scooter), but I never regret making the choice!

What I like:

Easy operation (twist and go, took only 5 minutes to learn the concept)

Fuel efficient

Environmentally friendly

Storage; less stress having to carry my stuff in a backpack and can do grocery runs.

Ease of maintenance once you learn what's what and the how to's

Being out in the elements (like taking the bus, only no wait times). It really refreshes my senses!

Safety (ability to manuvere out of danger quickly)

Just enough power to where you can keep up with traffic without getting a speeding ticket!  :P
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on December 25, 2013, 01:16:55 AM
I initially looked into scooters as an alternate mode of transport. Before this year, I was a faithful user of public transit my entire life (I'm 26). The GRTC (the local bus system) doesn't run to where I work on nights/weekends/some holidays (when I actually work), so I had to get a personal vehicle to get to work.

Getting a car/motorcycle? Nah...too expensive to own (on what I make), so that wasn't happening.



So (after a little nudging), I took the scooter route which turned out to be the best choice to make. Perfect mixture of public transit and having a car (IMO). Took me about 3 PITA ChiCom scooters to get it right with Metreaus (my current scooter), but I never regret making the choice!

What I like:

Easy operation (twist and go, took only 5 minutes to learn the concept)

Fuel efficient

Environmentally friendly

Storage; less stress having to carry my stuff in a backpack and can do grocery runs.

Ease of maintenance once you learn what's what and the how to's

Being out in the elements (like taking the bus, only no wait times). It really refreshes my senses!

Safety (ability to manuvere out of danger quickly)

Just enough power to where you can keep up with traffic without getting a speeding ticket!  :P

Well said Metreaus !
Thanks for your reply!
Merry Christmas, Stig
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: Scootaloot on December 25, 2013, 01:56:39 AM
I am a Landcape Designer and don't get reimbursed for gas. The scoot uses a third the gas while allowing me to carry my equipment,laptop,printer etc. without having the perception of a motorcycle. People quickly figure that I think outside the box and will come up with unique ideas. I rode cycles as a kid and now would never go back. The scoot is just more versatile and too much fun! Even the guys on OCC use to ride scooters for fun. 8)
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: paul11 on December 27, 2013, 03:54:30 AM
A scooter may be the best choice for making mostly inner-city trips with a few high-speed hops.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: JJJoseph on December 27, 2013, 09:35:23 AM
Why a scooter?

It's no contest for a city commuter.  A scooter is not only fun in traffic, it's hugely practical.  I can't carry much on any motorcycle I've ever had (and I've had plenty), but a flat-floor scooter can carry huge loads, down low where heavy loads should be carried.  Also scooters can park anywhere for free, but motorcycles can't.  A cruiser uses an entire car-parking space, but a scooter can fit any any little corner nook or cranny - even indoors if necessary.  I can fit 2 cars and a scooter in my garage, but only one car and a motorcycle.

This year, the malls were packing during shopping high holidays.  On my scooter, I simply parked at the front door and walked in.

Then there's scooter rider humor: if I drove a cruiser, people would think I'm an old man. 
Title: for me
Post by: boo on December 27, 2013, 02:42:43 PM
It stems from a love for motor scooters since childhood.
And they are funner!.

Had plenty of motor cycles over the years but, I see motor scooters only from here on out.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: paper on December 27, 2013, 03:22:06 PM
I can't carry much on any motorcycle I've ever had (and I've had plenty)

Well, you're generalizing there.. I won't own a motorcycle unless it's got saddlebags, minimum.

And saddlebags can always be removed.

My GS's license plate is FLTBED for a reason.. :) And I had a kid tell his Dad that he wanted to ride with me because he could lay down and sleep across the back of my bike..

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h276/djpagel/GLMC%20Z%20to%20A%20Grand%20Tour/sparta.jpg)

My other two are also wearing tank bags and saddlebags.  And yes, my scooters wear a rear topbox, but that weight is higher than I like. Common sense is required with packing anything, but I can haul a lot more on my motorcycles than I can with a scooter. I've been playing the packing game on two wheels for 30+ years.

Even on vacation, 1000+ miles from home, I have plenty of packing room left over, even though I'm hauling days worth of clothes, full camping gear, extra tools, and cooking gear.

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h276/djpagel/Vac%202012/badlands.jpg)

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h276/djpagel/Vac%202012/btmt.jpg)
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: CosmoKorny on December 27, 2013, 10:26:14 PM
It's no contest for a city commuter.  A scooter is not only fun in traffic, it's hugely practical.  I can't carry much on any motorcycle I've ever had (and I've had plenty), but a flat-floor scooter can carry huge loads, down low where heavy loads should be carried.  Also scooters can park anywhere for free, but motorcycles can't.  A cruiser uses an entire car-parking space, but a scooter can fit any any little corner nook or cranny - even indoors if necessary.  I can fit 2 cars and a scooter in my garage, but only one car and a motorcycle.

This year, the malls were packing during shopping high holidays.  On my scooter, I simply parked at the front door and walked in.

Then there's scooter rider humor: if I drove a cruiser, people would think I'm an old man.

You're going to think I'm picking on you again JJ, but what do you mean by "huge loads"?  This guy has carried more than a few cases of beer, and handled a lot better than it did with the old lady on back! 

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Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: Vivo on December 28, 2013, 03:16:31 AM
It's better to be called an "old man" than to be called a "girlie" on a cute scoot...
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: paper on December 28, 2013, 03:21:11 AM
I outgrew caring what others thought of me long, long ago.
I ride to impress only one person. The guy holding the handlebars. :)
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: Vivo on December 28, 2013, 03:26:08 AM
Different strokes for different folks...really...

I got a scooter for one single reason... high gas prices!... period.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: paper on December 28, 2013, 03:28:07 AM
Different strokes for different folks...really...

I got a scooter for one single reason... high gas prices!... period.

100% agreement with the different strokes. I ride scooters because they make me smile. :)
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: alphaBETAdog on December 28, 2013, 05:26:00 AM
I outgrew caring what others thought of me long, long ago.
I ride to impress only one person. The guy holding the handlebars. :)

Well said!
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: JJJoseph on December 28, 2013, 06:58:04 AM
Well, you're generalizing there.. I won't own a motorcycle unless it's got saddlebags,

You're stretching things, more than a little bit.  Nobody said anything about adding $1000 worth of accessories to carry your loads!  I was talking about scooters vs motorcycles, not motorcycles with $1000 saddlebags!  Without those bags, you can't carry even a tin of beans on your motorcycle.  Any flat-floor scooter, without any topcase, can carry at least 6 rolls of turf, a lawnmower, a 2 cases of beer.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: paper on December 28, 2013, 09:00:50 AM
The bags were on the bike when I bought it, and even without the bags, removable rear seat makes a perfect carry location. With any motorcycle I own, I set it up to do what I want with it, which will be a practical machine with touring ability. That goes with scooters, and I've toured on my 250 and 400 scooters with room to spare.

I put my feet on the floor where they belong, not some shiftable load, and I carry things where the bike was designed to carry them.

Again, I've been doing this for over 30 years. 25 of them on motorcycle, having gotten into scooters 5 or so years ago. When I'm going to haul a load I refuse to do it in any manner that's not safe or legal, and I don't suggest unsafe actions to others on the internet.

We may be comparing apples to oranges? I'm talking about hauling equipment 10's-1000's of miles, not 1/2 mile from the hardware store?
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: JJJoseph on December 28, 2013, 11:30:04 PM
I'm talking about hauling equipment 10's-1000's of miles, not 1/2 mile from the hardware store?

If you added a sidecar & a trailer to your machine, too, and drove from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego,then we'd all have to admit that, yes indeed,  motorcycles are the undisputed load carrying champs and scooters are totally useless. 
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: CosmoKorny on December 28, 2013, 11:35:34 PM
I ride a scooter 'cause it is a chick magnet. 
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: paper on December 29, 2013, 04:03:39 AM
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Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: kingkymco125 on December 29, 2013, 10:11:48 PM
I just love riding my scooter since they are so much fun to ride. I love being able to park in front of the store where as with a car I cannot do this. When the parking lot is full I go right up and park my bike outside of it. When one has a car, they are fighting for parking spaces. With a scooter, one is not dong this. A 125cc scooter is just perfect for getting around Las Vegas, Nevada when one does not want to use the cage.  There are just some days I want to leave the car at home and just ride my bike for most short trip. I love being in the left lane and cars behind me hate this since they think I have one of those slow scooters. When the light turns green I take off and the drivers are blown away by me. 8)
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on December 30, 2013, 02:21:09 AM
I ride a scooter 'cause it is a chick magnet. 
You forgot to open the garage door when idling your scoot again, didn't you.
(I saw the Care Bears once .... but you're seeing pretty girls smiling at you.)
No matter how cold it is , we must crack the garage door.
Stig
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: donandrews on December 30, 2013, 03:30:23 AM
Getting older. Don't need as much between my legs as I used to .
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: CosmoKorny on January 03, 2014, 03:31:27 AM
I ride a scooter 'cause it is a chick magnet.

You forgot to open the garage door when idling your scoot again, didn't you.
(I saw the Care Bears once .... but you're seeing pretty girls smiling at you.)
No matter how cold it is , we must crack the garage door.
Stig

Tell me I'm wrong.   :)

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Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: jmwood1968 on January 03, 2014, 09:26:11 AM
I ride both depending on where im going. I love both but scooter for in an around town and the Fury for on the highway. 
Don I read your profile if thats your age good for you! I want to be you when I get to be your age. You just keep on riding that scooter.
Title: simple
Post by: boo on January 03, 2014, 03:56:14 PM
More fun.
And for some like me, have always had a deep love for motor scooters.
Remember the old Allstates, Cushmans, etc..
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: boo on January 03, 2014, 04:26:22 PM
Getting older. Don't need as much between my legs as I used to .

I heard that.
Will be 64 in three days.
When the phone rings I lose control.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on January 03, 2014, 11:07:23 PM
Tell me I'm wrong.   :)

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OK, Cosmo, I stand corrected.
She is a cutie.
My youngest just turned 14....
She did sit on my scoot one time, to try out my rebuilt seat - but I didn't get a photo.
She thought my mirrors were 'cool !"
She says she is never going to drive, "it's just too scary !"
She has warned the entire family that a very goofy friend of hers will be turning 15 next August....and will be driving a car in our community.
[I know the kid. We have reason for alarm.]
I am eligible for Medicare now. The only thing better than a scoot in the garage is this 14 yr old youngster in the kitchen!
She is the last chapter of 6 great kids = roughly $1,750,000 in Pampers, Pull-Ups, rice cereal, training bras, book fees and science fair supplies. (The 4,200 sporting events (8 of which we won ) is where I developed my fear of lawn chairs and weepy 13 year olds.)
Best regards, Stig
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: CosmoKorny on January 03, 2014, 11:17:49 PM
 :)  This is my youngest of three, she just turned twelve.  The above photo was taken after returning from a ride;  turning into the drive she tapped me on the shoulder and said "more daddy, more!".  Chick magnet, I say.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: donandrews on January 07, 2014, 05:04:06 AM
Why must we choose one over the other? Some of us are riding-have ridden-want to ride - both. And that's OK. Two wheels is two wheels, dammit! So quit arguing that one is better than the other - its' all a matter of personal taste. What is better for one rider may not be better for the other, but again, two wheels is two wheels.

How about a thread on why we prefer to ride scooters and motorcycles rather than drive cars?
Peace and ride safe.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: Vivo on January 07, 2014, 07:07:41 AM
That was just a question donandrews... Lol! Yes two wheels is two wheels and I also love to ride both... some people just want to know other peoples ideas/views on motorcycles and scooters... to answer your proposed thread on why one prefers two wheels versus four, I prefer two wheels because I want to go home to my family early and spend more time with them after office without getting stuck in traffic... simple.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: JJJoseph on January 07, 2014, 07:21:38 AM
I prefer two wheels because I want to go home to my family early and spend more time with them after office without getting stuck in traffic...

Then there's the opposite traffic flow: I need to go downtown several times a week, but parking's really expensive for a car, like $25/day.  I take my scooter because I can park it in all kinds of little places for free.  I also enjoy my scooter ride into town; driving the car is slow and irritating.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: kingkymco125 on January 17, 2014, 01:55:53 AM
Then there's the opposite traffic flow: I need to go downtown several times a week, but parking's really expensive for a car, like $25/day.  I take my scooter because I can park it in all kinds of little places for free.  I also enjoy my scooter ride into town; driving the car is slow and irritating.

With a car, one does not about going for a ride in it. With a scooter one does. When one has a scooter, all they think about is going on rides. I love having my car for the all the protection it offers, but the bike lets one feel the actual weather conditions and appreciate their lives. I love being able to park in places the cagers cannot get into. A scooter is more agile and quicker than a car is.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: Vivo on January 17, 2014, 06:09:14 AM
With a car, one does not about going for a ride in it. With a scooter one does. When one has a scooter, all they think about is going on rides. I love having my car for the all the protection it offers, but the bike lets one feel the actual weather conditions and appreciate their lives. I love being able to park in places the cagers cannot get into. A scooter is more agile and quicker than a car is.

a feeling of Freedom!!!..  ;)
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: tortoise on January 18, 2014, 12:27:37 AM
If you ride during cooler temperatures and stow jacket and gloves in the under-seat tub while picking up a few groceries . . rising scooter engine heat keeps them warm.  A flat floorboard offers enhanced utility for transporting gallon jugs, 12 packs, bags of water softener salt, and pet food.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: Momma bear on January 18, 2014, 10:38:34 AM
Love that Sunday drive we use to do with our grandparents as kids. Now days to take the car would cost $50. Motorcycle is not the image I'm going for . I also don't need all that speed. I'm not interested in shifting with my feet, since at timeI think god gave me two left ones. I love to throw $8 bucks in the tank and ride for two hours at 40 MPH and see things you just can't see from the seat of your car or going 80MPH on a big bike.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on January 21, 2014, 08:23:24 PM
Love that Sunday drive we use to do with our grandparents as kids. Now days to take the car would cost $50. Motorcycle is not the image I'm going for . I also don't need all that speed. I'm not interested in shifting with my feet, since at timeI think god gave me two left ones. I love to throw $8 bucks in the tank and ride for two hours at 40 MPH and see things you just can't see from the seat of your car or going 80MPH on a big bike.
Amen.
Stig
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: Porkie on January 25, 2014, 03:06:25 PM
I own motorcycles, two of the best out there right now in my very, very humble opinion but for the last 12 years I have owned Maxi-scooters at the same time. WHY? FUN is the feeling I get when I ride my scooters to work (24 miles round trip) on beautiful country roads!

My Wing is for the 500-1,000 mile day.
My NT700 is for my 200 mile round trip breakfast and lunch rides.
MY 2013 Xciting 500 will be used for anything in between.***

*** We routinely do 150 mile trips on very small, paved roads that snake through farm country and normally stay at under 40 mph because of the roads and the fact that we always stop to take lots of pictures.

Scooters put a smile on my face every time I ride one. A $25,000 Goldwing doesn't quite do that for me.

9 scooters and counting but just the Xciting 500 now.

Sam:)
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: CosmoKorny on January 25, 2014, 03:12:39 PM
I own motorcycles, two of the best out there right now in my very, very humble opinion but for the last 12 years I have owned Maxi-scooters at the same time. WHY? FUN is the feeling I get when I ride my scooters to work (24 miles round trip) on beautiful country roads!

My Wing is for the 500-1,000 mile day.
My NT700 is for my 200 mile round trip breakfast and lunch rides.
MY 2013 Xciting 500 will be used for anything in between.***

*** We routinely do 150 mile trips on very small, paved roads that snake through farm country and normally stay at under 40 mph because of the roads and the fact that we always stop to take lots of pictures.

Scooters put a smile on my face every time I ride one. A $25,000 Goldwing doesn't quite do that for me.

9 scooters and counting but just the Xciting 500 now.

Sam:)

Nice!  And welcome to the forum!
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on January 25, 2014, 03:39:53 PM
I own motorcycles
Sam:)
I had to look up a picture of a NT700.....Geez, that thing is beautiful ! What color is your's? Honda makes some of the best packages of 2 wheelers....have always thought so. My first 3 bikes were Hondas. I used to like to sit and wax them when not riding.
Pictures of your fleet?
Welcome ~!
Ride safe.
Stig
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: Porkie on January 27, 2014, 04:58:20 PM
Stig, My NT700 is the red metallic with the factory matching topcase. I am the original owner and the bike only has less than 1,000 miles on it, has a new rear PR3 tire (Nail) and a new battery. It is Pristine, freshly serviced and ready to go. I have decided to sell the bike. If interested, PM me or email me at:

4pfarm@gmail.com

Sam:)
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on January 27, 2014, 08:09:08 PM
Stig, My NT700 is the red metallic with the factory matching topcase. I am the original owner and the bike only has less than 1,000 miles on it, has a new rear PR3 tire (Nail) and a new battery. It is Pristine, freshly serviced and ready to go. I have decided to sell the bike. If interested, PM me or email me at:

4pfarm@gmail.com

Sam:)
Porkie,
That bike is going to make some one a great ride - in the condition you describe!
Too much bike for me at my age - from here on out it is scooters, Scion xB's and the city bus!
Good luck with your sale....sorry to hear it has to go!
Stig
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: klaviator on January 28, 2014, 04:40:51 PM
I've been riding motorcycles for over 33 years and scooters for over 3.  The scooter bug was planted in me around 25 years ago when I rented one in Hawaii.

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I had a blast on that scooter.

I finally got one using the excuse that it would save on gas and wear and tear on my truck.  It turned out to be the most fun bike I have owned for around town riding. 

I now have 2 motorcycles and 2 scooters.  They all have their advantages depending on what type of riding I want to do.

A recent pic of my Super 8 which now has 14.5K on it.

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Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: Porkie on January 28, 2014, 05:39:51 PM
Very nice scoots!

Nice shot of Honolulu and Diamond Head too.

I love the Islands and have been there 4 times, on Oahu and Kona!

Sam:)
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: iker on February 27, 2014, 08:07:21 AM
at the age of 80 and riding since I was 30 I"ve had lots of cycles and scooters
current ride is a 2007 kymco people 125, red with dp sliders,top box and large
wind shield.miles are 3100. this is town scot.
road scot is a 2013 piaggio bv 350. black with 6000 miles. two screens,one is stock
with lamiar lip and other is tall faco. also has dp sliders,air hawk seat,42 liter top box,
highway pegs,cruise control and grip puppies. had at least 30 scooters, 50cc to
650cc. to old for motorcycles leg doesn't go over anymore. still loaf at a used bike
shop.i'm the unofficial sales person as the owner is very hard of hearing and I'm a
better b-ser.
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on February 27, 2014, 09:17:12 PM
at the age of 80 and riding since I was 30 I"ve had lots of cycles and scooters
current ride is a 2007 kymco people 125, red with dp sliders,top box and large
wind shield.miles are 3100. this is town scot.
road scot is a 2013 piaggio bv 350. black with 6000 miles. two screens,one is stock
with lamiar lip and other is tall faco. also has dp sliders,air hawk seat,42 liter top box,
highway pegs,cruise control and grip puppies. had at least 30 scooters, 50cc to
650cc. to old for motorcycles leg doesn't go over anymore. still loaf at a used bike
shop.i'm the unofficial sales person as the owner is very hard of hearing and I'm a
better b-ser.
Could I get a owner's report on the People and the BV.
Interested in both scooters.
I had 3 Hondas before I went off to Vietnam a long time ago. Then went to the motorcycle shop with my 18 yr old son a few months ago ----to look at the bikes he was interested in - Saw the KYMCO LIKE 200i and bought it a few weeks later.
LONG time between 2-wheelers, and having a blast now!
Stig

Stig
Title: Re: Why a scooter & not a Motorcycle?
Post by: bluesin on March 02, 2014, 04:37:28 AM
Thanks to a hit and run 18-wheeler ( I in my truck, thankfully-not a car- or I wouldn't be here ) I had to have surgery on my left thumb and wrist and clutching is WAY TOO hard on it. Plus, I love the extra storage ability and I get a lot of Harley/other cruiser bikes stopping to ask me about my DT300i , then saying that their bike is getting to hard to ride as they age , and they may look into getting one like it ! :-*