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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: 08087 on September 25, 2013, 06:23:34 PM
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I've decided that at some point in life I want to ride across this country of mine, by myself and without time constraints. It doesn't matter if I cover 10 miles in a day or 1,000 but I need to know what size bike you think is up for the task. The trip will be over 3,000 miles in one direction and if I take a detour it could easily be 5,000 or more before I head home.
Along the coast there is pleanty to see and do, it's when I make it out to farm country that I may cover hunderds of miles in a day and once near the rockies it will be long stretches of up hill climbs in excess of 9,000 ft' alltitudes.
My thoughts are a small double cylinder bike around the 600 cc range but I have no real expertize in making this guess. Any help from you all would be nice.
PS this won't take place until I'm 60 or so, so I'm in no hurry. it's just the first thing on my bucket list.
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Seems like an exercise in futility without knowing when this would occur . . and the models available then. Why do you consider all the previous cross-country postings in the various forums and blogs to be irrelevant? Really just sounds like you're jerking everyone's chain!
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Seems like an exercise in futility without knowing when this would occur . . and the models available then. Why do you consider all the previous cross-country postings in the various forums and blogs to be irrelevant? Really just sounds like you're jerking everyone's chain!
One can easily assume the same "size" models as they now have, they usually run the range from 50cc right up and through 1,200 cc and maybe higher. So what's your beef?
I didn't search this out as I'm more or less lookingt omake conversation as well as see where others feel is the right size bike. Maybe it would light a fire under some to do the same type thing, you know sort of inspire some..
So in 10 years give or take a few I'll be 60 yrs old, not fat at 180 lbs and looking for a bike to cruise across the USA.
If you don't have an answer don't reply, if you do please do so.
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I'm thinking a cruiser with an automatic tranny... Those are becoming popular these days... But as for me... a small speed boat will do since i'm surrounded with water... ;)
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You may not need that big a bike for most of the ride, but you may want to consider that you'll need something that could handle headwinds, climbing, and elevation (lower oxygen) all at the same time.
To give you a reference point - my experience has been that on a 400cc carbed bike (Yamaha Dragstar 400) was that it was pushing it beyond its limits when climbing from about 8000' and up elevations, even without a strong headwind. If that bike had FI, maybe it'd be better. Of course more CC would do the trick, but if coupled with a brisk headwind, it still may be struggling. One thing to think about would be renting a bike from someplace like EagleRider just for that particular trip - they usually rent harleys, but I'd thought I'd seen a few sport/street bikes in a few locations.
I'm thinking a cruiser with an automatic tranny... Those are becoming popular these days... But as for me... a small speed boat will do since i'm surrounded with water... ;)
No need to let water get in the way of your scooting around the archipelago:
http://www.topgear.com/uk/videos/vietnam-pt-2 (http://www.topgear.com/uk/videos/vietnam-pt-2) (press play on the video)
Cheers
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@MSL1: My buddies and I already did those scoot-on-boat trips.... very nice indeed... ;)
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I haven't done much more than 300 miles in one day but I'd want at least 250cc, Fuel injected and a larger wind screen not connected to the wheels and handlebars (downtown 300). Less buffeting on your arms that way. Also removable storage options so you could take them inside with you at night. The 250cc+ is mainly for hills. If time isn't a concern then that's not as much of an issue but the power would be nice at day's end if you were trying to get somewhere specific before the sun went down.
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Considering how others have crossed the country in everything from a 50cc up to a monster bike of 1500cc I don't think it matters. What matters is what you are comfortable with and what suits you.
I agree that given the variables we have in this country a bigger CC would be better. I would think at least a 650.
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Size doesn't matter.
In 1954, Günther Markert rode around the world on his Kreidler R 50 scooter. Incredible 2 hp out of 49cc. Through the Arab desert and up to ca. 4600m altitude (15092 ft).
I've done 1629km (IBA verified - 1012 miles) in less than 1 day with my Kymco Yager GT 125, but it is also be possible with my Xciting or a Honda GoldWing.
If you have more than a week for those 5000 miles you could also take a 50cc.
For leisure I would really suggest a small or medium bike, not the GL1800 class.
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I haven't done much more than 300 miles in one day but I'd want at least 250cc, Fuel injected and a larger wind screen not connected to the wheels and handlebars (downtown 300). Less buffeting on your arms that way. Also removable storage options so you could take them inside with you at night. The 250cc+ is mainly for hills. If time isn't a concern then that's not as much of an issue but the power would be nice at day's end if you were trying to get somewhere specific before the sun went down.
As far as removable storage I have used a top box and saddlebags but these are the bomb!
I've been using a large and a med large depending on the trip.
http://www.bikersfriend.com/ (http://www.bikersfriend.com/)
On and off the scoot in seconds.
Be Big,
AMAC
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As far as removable storage I have used a top box and saddlebags but these are the bomb!
I've been using a large and a med large depending on the trip.
http://www.bikersfriend.com/ (http://www.bikersfriend.com/)
On and off the scoot in seconds.
Be Big,
AMAC
I looked at these. How do you attach these bags. Don't you need a sissy bar?
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The bags come with bungee cords and nylon straps. A sissy bar not needed.
I've strapped then to a rear rack w/bungle and to the seat using the nylon straps under the seat.
On my Cali Classic
(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/Sample-Gallery/i-zVJXKht/0/S/image-S.jpg)
(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/Sample-Gallery/i-3mfcb8G/0/S/image-S.jpg)
Honda Helix
(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/MISC/i-hrKRsdJ/0/S/image-S.jpg)
Silver Wing
(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/MISC/i-DBWgM6f/0/S/image-S.jpg)
(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/MISC/i-Bh9mPLg/0/S/image-S.jpg)
Be Big
AMAC
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You may not need that big a bike for most of the ride, but you may want to consider that you'll need something that could handle headwinds, climbing, and elevation (lower oxygen) all at the same time.
To give you a reference point - my experience has been that on a 400cc carbed bike (Yamaha Dragstar 400) was that it was pushing it beyond its limits when climbing from about 8000' and up elevations, even without a strong headwind. If that bike had FI, maybe it'd be better. Of course more CC would do the trick, but if coupled with a brisk headwind, it still may be struggling. One thing to think about would be renting a bike from someplace like EagleRider just for that particular trip - they usually rent harleys, but I'd thought I'd seen a few sport/street bikes in a few locations.
No need to let water get in the way of your scooting around the archipelago:
http://www.topgear.com/uk/videos/vietnam-pt-2 (http://www.topgear.com/uk/videos/vietnam-pt-2) (press play on the video)
Cheers,
MSL
This is absolutely THE best bit of foolishness ever by The Boys!
Gentlemen, and ladies, you owe it to yourself to watch this epic travel video of Vietnam - funny though, I do not remember the country looking anything like this. They need a camera angle about 1/4" above ground level for so many of my memories. Or at 2500 feet - which is out of range of all but the crew-served, radar aimed spoil-your-day appliances used by the boys on the other team.
Good scooter stuff here, though.
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Size doesn't matter.
In 1954, Günther Markert rode around the world on his Kreidler R 50 scooter. Incredible 2 hp out of 49cc. Through the Arab desert and up to ca. 4600m altitude (15092 ft).
I've done 1629km (IBA verified - 1012 miles) in less than 1 day with my Kymco Yager GT 125, but it is also be possible with my Xciting or a Honda GoldWing.
If you have more than a week for those 5000 miles you could also take a 50cc.
For leisure I would really suggest a small or medium bike, not the GL1800 class.
You did 1000+ miles in one day on a 125 cc scoot?!
Could you tell us more about your journey - and maybe some photos. This sounds like a great adventure to some of us scooter nuts!
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I've decided that at some point in life I want to ride across this country of mine, by myself and without time constraints. It doesn't matter if I cover 10 miles in a day or 1,000 but I need to know what size bike you think is up for the task. The trip will be over 3,000 miles in one direction and if I take a detour it could easily be 5,000 or more before I head home.
Along the coast there is pleanty to see and do, it's when I make it out to farm country that I may cover hunderds of miles in a day and once near the rockies it will be long stretches of up hill climbs in excess of 9,000 ft' alltitudes.
My thoughts are a small double cylinder bike around the 600 cc range but I have no real expertize in making this guess. Any help from you all would be nice.
PS this won't take place until I'm 60 or so, so I'm in no hurry. it's just the first thing on my bucket list.
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Thanks for posting this 08087 !
You've got some good conversation going here!
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I would think the downtown or the G T 300i would be the scooter for a cross country ride and back,. lots of power in the mountains , and good MPG. over all,. my best one day ride is 600 miles, from ottawa on. canada to manchester N.H. and that was befor I fixed the seat to my comfort , hell they might even have ABS in ten years,. and built in GPS,. hello kymco canada and USA. get with it ,. slow pokes
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You guys are right...Size doesnt matter!!!... the more you lack things, the greater the experience...the greater the adventure... !!! If you want comfort and convenience, might as well stay home... 08, do it on a scoot, grab some tees and extra pair of jeans, basic tools, some drinking water, money... a map maybe... then twist and go! Make some stop-overs, meet locals, make new friends and maybe you can have free lunch... ;) ;) ;)
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The bags come with bungee cords and nylon straps. A sissy bar not needed.
I've strapped then to a rear rack w/bungle and to the seat using the nylon straps under the seat.
On my Cali Classic
(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/Sample-Gallery/i-zVJXKht/0/S/image-S.jpg)
(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/Sample-Gallery/i-3mfcb8G/0/S/image-S.jpg)
Honda Helix
(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/MISC/i-hrKRsdJ/0/S/image-S.jpg)
Silver Wing
(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/MISC/i-DBWgM6f/0/S/image-S.jpg)
(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/MISC/i-Bh9mPLg/0/S/image-S.jpg)
Be Big
AMAC
Thanks, AMAC, especially for the photos. They helped.
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You guys are right...Size doesnt matter!!!... the more you lack things, the greater the experience...the greater the adventure... !!! If you want comfort and convenience, might as well stay home... 08, do it on a scoot, grab some tees and extra pair of jeans, basic tools, some drinking water, money... a map maybe... then twist and go! Make some stop-overs, meet locals, make new friends and maybe you can have free lunch... ;) ;) ;)
Vivo, please advise these long distant travellers that I have the proper "basic" tool kit - one kit which is suitable for both inter-city and inter-continent scootering. I can over-night the list for a small fee (the "Basic Tool" list has been pared to a scant 16 pages)
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Vivo, please advise these long distant travellers that I have the proper "basic" tool kit - one kit which is suitable for both inter-city and inter-continent scootering. I can over-night the list for a small fee (the "Basic Tool" list has been pared to a scant 16 pages)
Stig, what I meant by "basic tools" is... maybe.. a pair of pliers, screw driver, spark plug wrench, and duct tape.... and, if the law permits, a .45 caliber colt commander.... ;)
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(http://scooter-gimp.smugmug.com/MISC/i-5tpR7gg/0/M/image-M.jpg)
Basic tool kit. ;D
Be Big,
AMAC
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Stig, what I meant by "basic tools" is... maybe.. a pair of pliers, screw driver, spark plug wrench, and duct tape.... and, if the law permits, a .45 caliber colt commander.... ;)
Vivo,
I take more than that with me when I go to the fridge during time-outs !
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Thanks guys for contributing to my dream/bucket list of ideas.
I don't know what came across me but the other day it just hit me, this is something I have to try. Will need a good list of tunes to pull me through when the time does come.
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Thanks guys for contributing to my dream/bucket list of ideas.
I don't know what came across me but the other day it just hit me, this is something I have to try. Will need a good list of tunes to pull me through when the time does come.
08, my bucket list remains the same this past few years,... a small island cottage, a small boat, and lots of rum... ;)
Stig, don't forget the plastic butter knife....
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I'm thinking a min of 300 cc to make it over those rocky moutains, they are pretty big mole hills.