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Title: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on September 18, 2013, 09:05:33 PM
(Vivo and AndyMann - you guys may sit this one out! Or just round up to the nearest multiple of 500)

I was riding home today and got to thinking about the last time I saw a scooter. It has been about 2 weeks: the pink Vespa belonging to that young lady at the city streets dept. building. Then there was that Super 8-looking scoot that went zooming by awhile before that.

Is it no wonder I chase down any scooter rider I can - to say "Hello, whatcha riding there?!"

Watched a funny video by a girl in Paris who wished she had a scooter - but doesn't "want to die!"

I bet a lot of you folks see a lot of scooters during your week - maybe even every day?

Yes?

Stig - Ohio farm town (now, if you wanna talk big wheeled F-150's - I win the donut!)
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Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: AMAC1680 on September 18, 2013, 09:08:14 PM
When I'm home in north florida I see tons of scooters every day.
In Jersey it's almost only me.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: Rbt Jean on September 18, 2013, 09:19:46 PM
I live in Fort Worth TX. and I see 3 or 4 vespa's running around where I live.
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: Indy21 on September 18, 2013, 10:00:52 PM
I think I'd have to go by week rather than day. And of course since I'm a new rider I take notice of it more than before but I probably see 4-5 scooters a week around town.

Actually a few days ago I saw 3 scooters in 3 different locations riding around town within about a 5 mile radius, pretty cool.
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: AVGuy on September 18, 2013, 10:10:23 PM
In the smallish town where I live and work it may be 3-5 a day. In the larger city next to us it can be as many as 10 in a day. A lot of those are DUI riders. We've had a number of accidents where riders have been killed or seriously injured & usually the accident is the fault of the scooter. And of course they have no insurance.

Here's an editorial in the local paper about the issue.
http://www.courierpress.com/news/2013/sep/16/issue-of-scooters-expected-to-grow/ (http://www.courierpress.com/news/2013/sep/16/issue-of-scooters-expected-to-grow/)
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: 08087 on September 18, 2013, 10:10:46 PM
When I'm home in north florida I see tons of scooters every day.
In Jersey it's almost only me.

Be Big,
AMAC

I see one every other day if I'm lucky.

Amac where in Jersey you from?
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: big blue on September 18, 2013, 10:27:51 PM
I see at least 4 or 5 a day. This is the state capital and we have Willamette University so a lot of commuters. Many of the state employees on Maxi scoots.

AVguy- Out here they all ride bikes and do get hit a lot!
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: blue on September 18, 2013, 10:39:37 PM
Here in michigan its almost 1 scoter to every 20 cars. Thats a lot here if they dont cut down on the gas prices there will be lot more. the main scooters you see are all the cheap chineses scooters.
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: mrmike on September 19, 2013, 12:03:47 AM
 I live in Syracuse, NY, and I'm lucky if I see 1 or 2 a day when I'm riding.
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: bleys on September 19, 2013, 12:37:40 AM
Some days I see none when I'm out riding, but other day I may see 5 or 6.  I usually ride my scooter to work and there are 4 other people who ride most days as well, so I see their scoots in the parking lot 5 days a week.
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: Rbt Jean on September 19, 2013, 01:26:50 AM
In the smallish town where I live and work it may be 3-5 a day. In the larger city next to us it can be as many as 10 in a day. A lot of those are DUI riders. We've had a number of accidents where riders have been killed or seriously injured & usually the accident is the fault of the scooter. And of course they have no insurance.

Here's an editorial in the local paper about the issue.
http://www.courierpress.com/news/2013/sep/16/issue-of-scooters-expected-to-grow/ (http://www.courierpress.com/news/2013/sep/16/issue-of-scooters-expected-to-grow/)

That’s an interesting article. I live in Texas and a two day safety course, insurance, and driver license stamp are all required. 
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: Rbt Jean on September 19, 2013, 01:35:40 AM
Here in michigan its almost 1 scoter to every 20 cars. Thats a lot here if they dont cut down on the gas prices there will be lot more. the main scooters you see are all the cheap chineses scooters.

From what I've heard about the cheap chineses scooters you won't be seeing them for very long.
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: 245luigi on September 19, 2013, 01:43:16 AM
Baltimore here.

Last year: virtually none.

This year: everyday! Ive seen new vespas, tomos, motobencane, mets, zumas, chinese and every once in a while a kymco. My boss drives a lambretta. Probably 2 - 4 a day
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: Vivo on September 19, 2013, 01:50:32 AM
At the mall parking lot?   Lots of them.... on the roads? even more....   ;)






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Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: tclhb on September 19, 2013, 02:13:12 AM
If it wouldn't wreck the economy, I would like to see gas prices go way up. There would be a lot more scooters on the road. With more around I think it would make scootering safer. People would expect us and look for us. Also there would be fewer cars and trucks to run us over.
Scooters make sense for commuting and errands. When you think about it, how much sense does it make to drive a 3000 pound car to go pick up a half gallon of milk?  My car only comes out of my garage about once a week.
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: AMAC1680 on September 19, 2013, 03:15:57 AM
I see one every other day if I'm lucky.

Amac where in Jersey you from?

Mantoloking just south of Pt. Pleasant on the north jersey shore.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: ts1 on September 19, 2013, 07:09:50 AM
I bet a lot of you folks see a lot of scooters during your week - maybe even every day?
Yes?
Yes!
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: wakeupmaggie on September 19, 2013, 03:27:46 PM
Mantoloking just south of Pt. Pleasant on the north jersey shore.

Be Big,
AMAC

I don't see any scooters around ever - maybe one of you two once in a while?

I am from Somerset County, NJ between Somerville and Morristown.
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: ScooterCommuter on September 19, 2013, 06:19:06 PM
I see quite a few here in the Minneapolis/St Paul area in MN. Various brands and models, but a lot of Kymcos. 50s are extremely popular as downtown commuters and campus transportation for students at the U. Lots of 125s zipping around the metro area too. Now that my daily commute is highways across the metro area rather than side streets into downtown, I see fewer of them of course, but I spotted a couple of dt300s recently and a few days ago I think I was a couple vehicles behind a red xciting at the us169/i394 intersection (if that was one of you guys, I was the gold one couple cars behind you) Seen a couple of Burgmans too.

(I'm not counting the different scoots I see all ridden by the same guy near the Cedar/Riverside exits, that would be the mechanic from Scooterville doing test rides)
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: Bubba on September 19, 2013, 07:17:24 PM
I live in Bettendorf, IA haha and im lucky to see more than 3 a week. Our scooter club that I started only has 5 scooters in it.. In the future more people will talk less crap and get one because its efficient.
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on September 19, 2013, 07:50:35 PM
I see quite a few here in the Minneapolis/St Paul area in MN. Various brands and models, but a lot of Kymcos. 50s are extremely popular as downtown commuters and campus transportation for students at the U. Lots of 125s zipping around the metro area too. Now that my daily commute is highways across the metro area rather than side streets into downtown, I see fewer of them of course, but I spotted a couple of dt300s recently and a few days ago I think I was a couple vehicles behind a red xciting at the us169/i394 intersection (if that was one of you guys, I was the gold one couple cars behind you) Seen a couple of Burgmans too.

(I'm not counting the different scoots I see all ridden by the same guy near the Cedar/Riverside exits, that would be the mechanic from Scooterville doing test rides)
Why are scooters so big in Minneapolis? You guys have that famous scooter shop as well. Aren't you folks pretty far north for so many scooters?! What's your secret?
Title: Re: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: ScooterCommuter on September 19, 2013, 08:26:49 PM
Why are scooters so big in Minneapolis? You guys have that famous scooter shop as well. Aren't you folks pretty far north for so many scooters?! What's your secret?

I couldn't find figures for scooters specifically, but taking "registered motorcycles" as a whole (so including all scoots over 50cc, also our friends on their spyders etc) the top 10 states in "motorcycles per capita" are MT, SD, NH, IA, WY, WI, ND, MN, VT, ID.

So, we have this indication of a strong two wheeled community. Now consider that many of these states have a lot of sparsely populated rural area and a few major cities forming the centers of densely populated areas. Their simple practicality for the urban environment will increase the use of the smaller scoots not included in the "motorcycles per capita", further swelling that number and it will also slightly skew the fraction of "motorcycles" that are actually larger scooters.

Now let's put the cherry on the cake. Scooterville is RIGHT next to a few college campuses, including the UofM, and the U has dedicated moped parking spots all over campus. I'd bet a significant # of the students taking advantage of those will later become motorcyclists or ride bigger scoots.

Plus, the mere fact that Scooterville is there means you can GET them locally, and get them serviced too.
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: wheelsoffreedom76 on September 23, 2013, 08:54:15 PM
   I see scooters every time I go out, and hear them drive by my house if the windows are open. Around here Kymco, Eton, Honda scooters are available between the two motorcycle shops we have. Most of the scooters I see are agility 50's.
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: AVGuy on September 24, 2013, 03:53:01 AM
That’s an interesting article. I live in Texas and a two day safety course, insurance, and driver license stamp are all required.

In Indiana, 49cc scooters are treated like bicycles, not motorcycles. No tags, license or insurance required. Many of the riders have lost their drivers license and scoots are the only motorized transportation they can legally ride.

They're referred to as DUI scooters, liquor scoots and other colorful names. If you're seen riding one, it's assumed you've lost your license.

Most of these riders don't pay much attention to the traffic laws, hence the high number of accidents. The state legislature will wind up passing more stringent laws eventually.

My 250cc Grand Vista is classified the same as a motorcycle, so I had to get my MC endorsement, plates and insurance, which I was happy to do.
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: GLV55 on September 25, 2013, 03:52:37 AM
Here in the Boise, ID area, I only see about 1 - 2 scooters per week on my way to work and back, but I see a LOT of pick ups! Go figure! A lot more scooters in the downtown area around Boise State University, however.
Title: Re: How many scooter riders do you see each day?
Post by: TroutBum on September 25, 2013, 04:55:47 AM
Riding around Silicon Valley it can range from 1 to as many as a 12. Mostly Vespas. When in San Francisco the range is higher. I say 20 to 50. I see more on the weekends. Seems with the congestion on the avenues many in San Francisco take to scooters. The majority I say are students and young adults.