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Bet & Win 150 / Re: B&W 150 airfilter/exhaust upgrades
« on: January 19, 2013, 09:25:43 PM »
What about enlarging the two holes into one big one with the same trapezoidal shape and put some expanded aluminum screen behind?

The B&W has a CV carb, although efficient, practical and easy to operate, sucks hugely for tuning.  Unless I'm missing something, there appears no way to enrich the fuel/air mix i.e. no c-clip on the needle to adjust one way or the other the fuel/air.  So, this carb has got to go and a flat slide or equivalent will be on order shortly.  The CV carb is covered in hoses that go all over the place.  I'm sure there is a reason for the whole mess, mainly emissions, but the way I see it I'm riding a scooter and not driving a V8, so no big deal if a little C02 escapes my little .15L engine. 

JB

 

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Bet & Win 150 / Re: B&W 150 airfilter/exhaust upgrades
« on: January 19, 2013, 05:10:57 PM »
Sorry, it's taken some time to sort this out, work always gets in the way of good fun. Regardless, I've sorted out my cold air intake system and it only cost me $8! 

I've got some pictures of what I've done so far.  I am going to paint the hose black.  The last picture shows the factory intake hose that I replaced.  It was 15/16" inside diameter.  The hose I replaced it with is 1 9/16" inside diameter, with a gradual bend.  The scoot runs smoothly with the new set-up and has a pleasant intake "honk" sound when I get on the gas.  Some people may not like this, but I certainly do. 

I'm going to "enrichen" the fuel mixture a little to compensate for the increased air flow. 

I dig it.

JB

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Bet & Win 150 / Re: B&W 150 airfilter/exhaust upgrades
« on: January 14, 2013, 06:28:17 PM »
Thanks.  I haven't got pictures yet, maybe this coming weekend.  The scoot is kept at a garage away from where I live and access is a bit of a pain sometimes. 

I think I have, in theory, figured out how to route the intake properly using 2" ID tubing.  I've drawn crude pictures to help illustrate what I'm up to.  What I most like about what I'm proposing is that I can hack away and cut some holes etc, without destroying any of the factory intake hardware.  So if my attempt doesn't work I can change back to the stock set-up with no difficulty. 

A $2 pipe and a little plastic welding and the set-up will be done. 

Bear in mind this is all PRE-filter hose routing.  After the filter is as good as it will get for now or at least until the day comes when a flat slide carb arrives and I get more serious about tuning. 

Thanks for the information.  I'll get proper pictures in time. 

JB

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Bet & Win 150 / Re: B&W 150 airfilter/exhaust upgrades
« on: January 14, 2013, 02:16:15 AM »
So I tore into my B&W with vigor and found that the air box input winds its way around several corners and ends up just under the middle floor boards in a medium sized white plastic box, with an even smaller air inlet hole that is shielded by another big plastic flap.  Many couplings, many 90 degree turns, many size reductions.  I haven't got a camera at present that I can find ( there are three in the house, but between my wife and the cat, who knows where they've gone) or else I'd show a few pictures of what I'm explaining.  I'm thinking now that I can fabricate some form of intake that would seriously better this system, kind of a ram-air intake, utilizing the screened sides of the scoot just behind where your feet go.  There is a nice screen for styling, but behind it there is a plastic panel that renders the screen totally useless (like a hood scoop on recent model american cars).  The panel is screwed in place, so It makes possible the removal of the screen and it's adoption for use as a template to construct a more useful, derestricted yet stock looking air-filter. 

Also, behind the air filter there is that 90 degree piece of pipe on the B&W that with very slight pressure pops out of place. 

JB

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Bet & Win 150 / Re: B&W 150 airfilter/exhaust upgrades
« on: January 13, 2013, 07:09:13 PM »
Thanks for the information.  I've since pulled my airbox off and on the B&W it appears very restricted.  Inside the airbox there is only a small opening from the initial intake pipe and allows only a small amount of air to contact the air filter.  I drilled holes all along the inside tube in the airbox to allow more air to contact the air filter.  It's winter here, and although temps have risen sharply to be at a comfortable riding level, my scoot is uninsured so I haven't been able to test the affects of drilling the air box.  It does run smoothly and revs through the rpm range with no hesitation and no noticeable difference in sound. 

The biggest restriction, as you have pointed out, but as it applies to the B&W is the small initial intake tube diameter.  I don't know the actual specs but for comparison sake it visibly appears to have a 1" pipe going into a 1.5" - 1.75" air box hole.  This afternoon I'm going to dive into this issue and see if I can't make something work that will not restrict air flow. 

I'm wondering though, if I do manage to achieve the full breathing potential of the air box would there be a necessity to re-jet or otherwise tune the carb? 

JB

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Bet & Win 150 / B&W 150 airfilter/exhaust upgrades
« on: January 12, 2013, 08:29:32 PM »
Does anyone know of a good combination airfilter/exhaust upgrade for the B&W150?  I've searched around a bunch and found a few decent looking exhuasts (no idea how they actually perform or sound) but very little on air filters - filter boxes etc.  While I'm at it, does anyone know the compatibility of GY6 150 parts to the B&W150? 

Thanks

JB

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Bet & Win 150 / Re: Bet & Win 150 Review
« on: January 12, 2013, 08:22:41 PM »
I know this is a very old thread, but I'm still curious.  Oldhummer stated that his B&W over heated when temps reached 80F?   I'm only curious because my B&W barely, if ever, even registers much of a temperature and I've ridden through wet-sinking-type sand at low speed for an extended period fully loaded with my wife onboard, when the temp was 97F and ONLY then did the fan kick on, it only kicked on for less than a minute at that.  What I'm wondering is who has the issue?  Is Oldhummer's scoot running too hot or mine too cold? 

JB

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Bet & Win 150 / Re: Bet & Win 150 oil change interval?
« on: January 09, 2013, 05:38:28 PM »
Hi there,  my B&W has a little green light that turns red when it's oil change time.  Also, as Vivo said,  according to oil condition is best.  Kymco was nice enough to encorporate a sight window so it's easy to see the condition of the oil at a glance.  Plus, for the .9L it takes, the five dollars it costs to change the oil is negligable to peace of mind and longevity.

JB

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Bet & Win 150 / Re: 10K mile/16K KM review of B&W 150
« on: January 09, 2013, 05:35:22 PM »
Hi,  I too have surpassed the 16,000km mark with my 2008 B&W150 and couldn't be happier.  Aside from the styling, this scooter has proven absolutely worthy.  The cooling system works extremely well and only once has the fan came on, but even then I was fully loaded with camping gear, a 1/8 scale RC car and accessories, box of wine, some tools, food for three days and my wife on the back, while riding through wet sand for about 5km in 30 degree C weather (86F).  Belt went at 12,000km,  I now carry a spare and seriously advocate others do the same.  It isn't as good on fuel as I initially hoped, but compared to driving my Jeep Grand Cherokee, it is a blessing.  Brakes are strong enough, although I do notice on really hard braking that the whole front of the scooter levers forward just slightly; brakes stronger than the frame? 

Also,  it should be noted that I am absolutely aggressive with my scooter all of the time.  I really try not to, and even feel guilty sometimes at the end of the day when I put it in the garage, but I ride wide open or full brake and very little in between.  I also ride a lot of intermediately aggressive off-road trails with lots of rocks, roots and water crossings.  This little 150 takes it in stride and has never once had any kind of minor or major malfunction, hiccup, miss, lag, lack of power or anything.  It always starts instantly, never smokes, stays clean and runs like new. 

My last bikes were a GSX-R1100 and street legal XR650R, both considered fairly wild mounts, but nothing really comes close to the fun and silliness that happens while riding a scooter.  Even if when in a un-official race across town situation, chances are the scooter wins, but the victory typically goes unrecognised because it is just so funny. 

I love this scooter and am presently outfitting it for a trans-Canada run this spring. 

JB

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