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People s200 / Re: 2009 S 200 Headlight failure - Both High and Low beams
« on: January 12, 2020, 09:27:23 AM »
The headlight controller may be bad, or perhaps it isn't receiving a pulse from the ignition module.  The headlight controller uses the lack of a pulse to turn off the headlights at low RPMs.  You can check for the pulse with a scope if you have one. 

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People s200 / Re: Headlight Goes Out
« on: June 01, 2016, 06:42:30 AM »
The headlight controllers are failure prone.  Search the forum for "headlight controller" for more on this. 

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People s200 / Re: WINTER IS COMING AND I WANT A GREAT BATTERY.....?WHICH ONE?......
« on: October 08, 2015, 10:19:46 AM »
Either get a stock Yuasa or a lithium-iron battery.  The S200's 163cc engine takes more to turn over than a 125cc.  The cheap replacements that supposedly replace a YTX7A-BS don't have the CCA of the Yuasa.  They may be fine for other bikes, but not the S200.  I wasted my money on two of these cheaper batteries. 

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People s200 / Re: oil leak from gearbox overflow
« on: January 06, 2015, 12:01:53 AM »
An overfull crankcase can slowly leak through the carb to the air filter. 

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People s200 / Re: Gas leaking from air cleaner housing
« on: March 26, 2014, 09:10:22 PM »
There is a fuel shutoff valve that's in line between the gas tank and carb.  If this is flakey (mine was), fuel can leak into the crankcase and/or airbox. 

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People s200 / Re: leaking oil
« on: March 10, 2014, 06:41:32 PM »
My S 200 had what could be a similar oil leak.  The culprit was the cylinder gasket - the one between the cylinder and the crankcase.  It slid or was pinched out of position.  Not too bad of a repair, but it takes time.  I used a gasket shellac on the new gasket to help prevent a recurrence. 

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People s200 / Re: Oil leak - failed cylinder gasket.
« on: July 15, 2012, 07:34:10 AM »
My S 200 is back on the road again, leak-free thanks to a new cylinder gasket and a few other new gaskets.  

One thing I should mention is that the oil strainer was full of pieces of the old failed gasket.  

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People s200 / Oil leak - failed cylinder gasket.
« on: June 19, 2012, 06:46:56 PM »
At around 4700 miles, I started noticing a small (1-2 drops/mile) oil leak.  I took the bike apart and found the cylinder gasket (between the cylinder and crankcase) pinched out of the joint.  

I have found a few other references to this happening on Kymcos, but it doesn't seem to be a common problem.

Question:  How should I fix this?  Possibilities:

* Loosen the cylinder and squirt in some 'form a gasket' liquid
* Pull the cylinder with the engine in the bike
* Remove the engine and replace the gasket on a bench


Also, should I pull the piston from the cylinder, or just try to loosen the cylinder and remove the wrist pin with the piston still in the cylinder?

Regards,

Alex

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People s200 / Re: People S 200 MPG's
« on: June 19, 2012, 06:43:32 PM »
My MPG is in the high 50s.  I do ride aggressively and weigh 210. 

But something is likely wrong with the carburetion.  One of the valve clearances was also too tight.   

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General Discussion / Re: Head light issues, ... Need Help!
« on: February 17, 2012, 10:16:12 AM »
The headlights are DC powered.  The alternator isn't suspect if the other key electrical functions (like starter motor, instrument panel and brake/turn/tail lights) work.

The headlight controller on the People S is prone to failure.  A common failure mode is intermittent loss of main (hi-beam and normal) headlights, but the other lights (including the smaller white 'pilot' lights near the headlights) work.  Keep in mind that the headlight controller senses engine speed, and turns off the main bulbs at low RPM to save battery.  So the main headlights _should_ be off at idle, but on when underway.

Hope this helps.  


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People s200 / Re: First hundred miles on a used People S 200
« on: January 29, 2012, 07:00:50 AM »
Quote from: MikeSSS on January 29, 2012, 12:00:26 AM

Ride is harsh, but I just set the preload on the rear springs from second from the least to the very least, that helped.  The stiff suspension is probably good for cornering but not so good where the tv cable company has cut across the road every hundred feet. 



What's the front and rear tire pressure?  Too much air will make the ride unpleasant.  When I bought mine, the front was overinflated, and the ride was harsh.   A little less air made an amazing difference. 

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People s200 / Re: Transmission Level
« on: January 18, 2012, 08:01:01 AM »
Quote from: slugrocket rob on December 28, 2011, 01:48:52 AM
Alex, thanks for the info. I still have a question. You stated that "blew a seal" notion is a myth and then stated that over filling : "can cause leakage"... how do you define "blew a seal"? In my book, a blown seal is a leaking seal. We are probably in full agreement but I get stuck on semantics. Scoot On!

A "blown seal" generally refers to a seal that failed (i.e., was blown out) under high pressure, for example in the high-pressure areas of a pump, engine or a pneumatic transmission.  

A manual transmission can still have a leaking gasket, but they are generally vented and operate at atmospheric pressure.  This kind of failure isn't caused by high pressure.

An overfilled final gearbox on a scooter will discharge oil through its vent hose, which often leads to the air filter box.  This doesn't indicate a failed gasket or seal, but rather an overfilled gear box.

Hope this helps.

Alex

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People s200 / Re: Transmission Level
« on: December 22, 2011, 04:57:08 AM »
Quote from: rsnow on October 30, 2011, 11:23:14 PM
Thought it blew a seal. Took it to the dealer.      Bob

This 'blew a seal' notion is a myth.  CVT scooters have geared rather than hydraulic final drives.  The final drive is vented to the outside, and therefore never under pressure.  Overfilling it can cause leakage (on most scooters this would be into the air filter box as the vent tube typically leads there), but not blown seals.  Hydraulic automatic transmissions on a car, on the other hand, can have blown seals.    

On my S200, I was able to fill it to the bottom of the level-check/fill hole with approximately the specified amount of oil.  

Hope this helps.

Alex

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Agility 125 / Re: Vibrations/harsh take-off
« on: December 15, 2011, 12:12:38 AM »
I have a similar problem with my People S200.   I took off the clutch bell and also found grease inside it.  Not sure where this came from.  I cleaned up the grease in the clutch bell, and cleaned both the bell and shoes with solvent.  After a light sanding of the pads, I put it back together.

The rough grabbing is still there.  

One thing I noticed when I had the bell off is that the shoes didn't move very freely - their motion was damped.  The springs pulled the shoes in _slowly_.  I believe that the problem is that the lubricant on the clutch shoe pivots has dried and turned gummy.  Next time I'll take the clutch apart fully, and clean and lube the shoe pivots.

Cortez has posted that holding the brakes and giving some gas helps.  In mine it does, but only temporarily.  I believe that the brakes+gas heats up the clutch, which makes softens the lubricant.  I notice the problem more on cold days.

Has anyone else had this problem?  If so, what was the fix?

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People s200 / Re: Side lights
« on: September 07, 2011, 06:10:55 AM »
Quote from: scosgt on November 09, 2010, 08:20:10 PM
You REALLY should stop giving out wrong information. The headlights on the S 200 are AC repeat AC. They run directly off the AC GENERATOR. They DO NOT light up with the ignition. They ONLY light with the engine running. Because they are AC and run off the AC GENERATOR.

Just look at the wiring diagram in the service manual. They dim on low idle, but it is a controlled dim to save power because the AC GENERATOR does not put out enough power at low idle.

The alternator (there is no generator on most modern vehicles), runs to a rectifier, where the power is converted to DC.  Once converted to DC, power goes to the headlight controller.  This is quite clearly illustrated in the wiring diagram.  

Based on input from the ignition controller, the headlight controller switches the DC power to the headlights.  

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