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Scooters - 125 to 300 => LIKE 200i => Topic started by: kbshaq on July 28, 2014, 03:04:03 AM
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Please forgive me in advance if this topic has been posted before. I did a search on it, but couldn't find anything that had a title like this. :)
I'm considering purchasing a Like 200. I own a Yamaha Vino 125, it's a good commuter scooter but I want something that is freeway/highway legal (here in a Calif.). I spoke with a Kymco dealer and he claimed that Like 200's can *easily* do 65-70 MPH. If anyone can confirm this, this would be great. :)
Thanks!!
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My top speed is around 60 on flat and level. Others report higher speeds. The LIKE is underpowered compared to others in that size range. Getting on a clear California freeway at that speed is suicide. I love my bike, but I don't get on the freeways with it.
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I agree with Lido. The top speed is about 60mph. Since installing my windscreen I have seen 62ish but that is in a tuck in still air. The freeway is a problem not because of speed but stability. The air flow of larger vehicles will cause the scoot to be thrown about because of the small tires and light weight. I regularly ride secondary roads at 50-55 without a problem but dealing with the side drafts of large trucks is very dangerous.
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Thanks, Lido & Big Blue. Great replies and input. Based on BB's input about wind flow, which I've experienced even when riding my heavier 'shiftey' motorcycle, I'm planning on looking at the new People line. :)
Thanks again, guys.
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Mine does 70-72mph on flat, plain roads, calm winds, according to speedometer (full throttle/WOT). Which equals in real speed maybe max. 62mph. Haven´t checked that yet with GPS. Not tuned yet, all original condition with now 1.000km on it. No Windshield, Tire Pressure 2.0bar front Tyre and 2.4bar rear Tyre.
~72kg Driver Weight. Dr. Pulley Weights (11.5g) and Sliders will follow later which should cause a litttle better acceleration and maybe a litttle more top speed.
And I spure my horse from day and kilometer one on, after the engine warmed up. Runs great.
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Please forgive me in advance if this topic has been posted before. I did a search on it, but couldn't find anything that had a title like this. :)
I'm considering purchasing a Like 200. I own a Yamaha Vino 125, it's a good commuter scooter but I want something that is freeway/highway legal (here in a Calif.). I spoke with a Kymco dealer and he claimed that Like 200's can *easily* do 65-70 MPH. If anyone can confirm this, this would be great. :)
Thanks!!
Wow. Why do salespeople do this?!
They are going to get someone killed on a highway.
7000 miles on my LIKE200I.....in a tuck, down hill, throttle jammed to the stop, saw 58mph....maybe, vibrating and banging across tar strips too badly to read the speedometer....then was nearly unseated by a passing semi.
This is a great urban streets, 45mph country road, scooter....but it is NOT An INTERSTATE HIGHWAY scooter.
Stig
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My top speed 60...dealers lie!!
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Hi everybody. I'm new to this whole scooter thing , I just bought a "14"agility125. I really like it but it's just a little to small for what I need. I got it for going to work and the whole ride is on state &U.S. hwy with 2 big hills & quite a bit of wind most of the time, the hills and any headwind keeps me down to about 45. I was looking at the 200i and was wondering if it could keep me at 55. By the way I'm just a little guy of 320#. Any advice would be greatly appreciated,.
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wondering if it could keep me at 55. By the way I'm just a little guy of 320#.
At 320lbs....55mph?
You would be riding constanly with the throttle jammed to the stop.
Not a good way to drive a car, nor a scooter.
Also, the short wheelbase and light weight of this scooter would not give you a stable or reassuring ride at that speed, especially when trucks pass you!!.
You would need to give the seat a thorough rebuild to add more padding (the seat of this scooter is a major complaint of many owners)
I think you need to step up in scooter size...in the Kymco line, or test a SYM 200 at the very least.
You will most likely regret your purchase if you buy too small a scooter. If you get the correct size...it will be a blast to ride & own!
Stig
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Agree with Stig. I have a buddy who goes about 350 lbs. He rides a Suzuki Burgman 650 and loves it. Not as overwhelmly big as a Gold Wing or Electraglide so it is still pretty nimble. Burgman 400 would do the trick too. Kymco also has some nice larger models you might want to consider.
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I run about 280 and my Like would do ok at 50 to 55 but that's it. It was NOT a freeway bike. Also, you really would not want to go to much over 50 with the 12 inch wheels and suspension on the Like. It is bone jarring when you hit most anything on the road.
I owned mine for 10 months and finally sold it and bought a People GT300i and I have never looked back. The ride of the GT is MUCH smoother than my Like. And of course the added CC's are incredible. I can do 75 on the freeway smooth as silk and have throttle left over.
Take your time on your purchase and buy the right bike the first time. Don't go through what a lot of us have and have to trade up later on. To much of a pain and you lose money in the long run.
Good luck with your new scoot and update us with what you end up with, mscmkr
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I also agree to what you wrote guys. The Like is very good, very easy and very nice to drive up to about 50-55mph.
More Speed is possible, but due to the short wheelbase, the small tyres, the light weight, frameconstruction etc. it isn´t really too much fun any more then - at least not for long time. So, a highway scooter is clearly something else...
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These items of discussion are exactly why these forums are such great help. Debunking sales bs and reading the experiences and opinions of others. Warts and all, the Like is doing what I ask of it so far.
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It would have made a whole lot more sense if Kymco had called it the 170i. The scooter does a great job for me and my style of riding, mostly in town with some runs on the local farm roads. If a highway bike is what you need or extra power something over a 250cc would be the way to go. ;)
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Ive gotten my like up to 63 mph per speedo. GPS shows 63 mph to be 60 mph. At WOT the engine sound doesn't make for a pleasant ride. I find between 25 and 50 mph the Like hums along nicely.
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Thanks everybody this is just the info I need. I'll probably look into the 300i as the only dealers within 90 mi are Genuine & Kymco. I do'nt really care for the sort of cross between bike and scooter that the big scooters have, I like the look and seating position of the step through. I'll keep you posted with what I end up getting. Thanks again for all your input I'm really glad I found this forum.
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That dealer is either stupid or lying. I've never been able to get a Like over 65, and that's full throttle screaming. If you need freeway capabilities the gti is a wayyyyyy better fit.
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That dealer is either stupid or lying. I've never been able to get a Like over 65, and that's full throttle screaming. If you need freeway capabilities the gti is a wayyyyyy better fit.
Mk 1 VW Golf is an even better fit for highway fļying. A classic little rocket now.
Had two of them....only ride more fun than a scooter...except maybe the Audi 4000S.
Stig
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That dealer is either stupid or lying. I've never been able to get a Like over 65, and that's full throttle screaming. If you need freeway capabilities the gti is a wayyyyyy better fit.
I think salesmen assume the LIKE is more capable than it is for a 163cc scoot. A 170ccSYM will do 70, for example. An honest mistake...I hope.
Stig
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Greetings all, I'm new here. I bought my Like 200i on July 3rd as a retirement gift to myself and will soon have 1500 miles on it. I would have to agree with Stig and others that this scooter is best as an urban vehicle, though that could be stretched to suburban. So far, 58 mph is all my 220 lb. self can achieve on level terrain. I live in southern AZ and rode about 200 miles round trip via back roads from SE Tucson to Bisbee two days ago. Summary: scenic and slow. 40 mph on inclines if I had momentum while approaching them. After I get past that limitation, I find that the Like 200i enters a serene, happy place at about 50 mph and feels as if it could live there all day. This is not a touring scooter, though you can do it if you accommodate yourself to it. I will need to do something about that seat, though. I am soon moving to Bisbee and I bought this scooter with that in mind. I think it will be ideal on local hilly streets at appropriate speeds and far more convenient with its CVT than my motorcycle, which will remain my touring choice. As an errand runner or a short to medium distance pleasure riding option, it does well for me. It is a lot of fun in those roles and a great value. One question, I am new to forum posting. How do I post an Avatar?
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Greetings all, I'm new here. I bought my Like 200i on July 3rd as a retirement gift to myself and will soon have 1500 miles on it. I would have to agree with Stig and others that this scooter is best as an urban vehicle, though that could be stretched to suburban. So far, 58 mph is all my 220 lb. self can achieve on level terrain. I live in southern AZ and rode about 200 miles round trip via back roads from SE Tucson to Bisbee two days ago. Summary: scenic and slow. 40 mph on inclines if I had momentum while approaching them. After I get past that limitation, I find that the Like 200i enters a serene, happy place at about 50 mph and feels as if it could live there all day. This is not a touring scooter, though you can do it if you accommodate yourself to it. I will need to do something about that seat, though. I am soon moving to Bisbee and I bought this scooter with that in mind. I think it will be ideal on local hilly streets at appropriate speeds and far more convenient with its CVT than my motorcycle, which will remain my touring choice. As an errand runner or a short to medium distance pleasure riding option, it does well for me. It is a lot of fun in those roles and a great value. One question, I am new to forum posting. How do I post an Avatar?
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Thanks everybody this is just the info I need. I'll probably look into the 300i as the only dealers within 90 mi are Genuine & Kymco. I do'nt really care for the sort of cross between bike and scooter that the big scooters have, I like the look and seating position of the step through. I'll keep you posted with what I end up getting. Thanks again for all your input I'm really glad I found this forum.
Hey BigRed, that's exactly what I did. :)
I went to a dealer ended up buying the 300i. I'm getting nothing buy positive review for both the Like 200 and People GT 300i.
A little sidenote:
I figured either bike would be one heck of an "upgrade" from my Vino, which is waiting for a Variator belt right now.
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Thank you, TroutBum, for the avatar guidance. I continue to enjoy my LIKE and have put 1500+ miles on it in the first month, much of that on two lane roads out in the country. (Being newly retired helps). I have noticed how much more I can appreciate the scenery at 50 mph.
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At 320lbs....55mph?
You would be riding constanly with the throttle jammed to the stop.
Not a good way to drive a car, nor a scooter.
Also, the short wheelbase and light weight of this scooter would not give you a stable or reassuring ride at that speed, especially when trucks pass you!!.
You would need to give the seat a thorough rebuild to add more padding (the seat of this scooter is a major complaint of many owners)
I think you need to step up in scooter size...in the Kymco line, or test a SYM 200 at the very least.
You will most likely regret your purchase if you buy too small a scooter. If you get the correct size...it will be a blast to ride & own!
Stig
I'm back! Just could not pull the trigger on the 300i, went with the Sym RV200 Evo. The dealer is 100mi away but for $2300 less I had to go. Only got 80mi on it so far but it seems to have all the power and speed that I need,and is fairly comfortable to ride. I want to thank Stig for the recomendation.
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Top speed on mine is 62 mph, i'm about 185 lbs, cross winds definitely suck on this bike! Feel like i'm getting whipped around like a chicken!
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From my experience on MC's you need at least a 350cc+ to be able to ride with and zoom past modern day freeway traffic, anything less isn't enough zoom in my book.
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From my experience on MC's you need at least a 350cc+ to be able to ride with and zoom past modern day freeway traffic, anything less isn't enough zoom in my book.
I agree. I find there is no reserve power beyond 40-45 mph. What little there is between 25-45 mph isn't enough in my opinion. It pays to plan ahead and create a safety zone.
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the like 200 and the people 200 have the same speed
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the like 200 and the people 200 have the same speed
The People should be a lot more stable at speed with its larger wheels. There were no big wheel scooters avail. locally when I purchased my LIKE200i , or I would have purchased one instead. I like my Like, but I'm 6'3" and would have enjoyed bigger wheels.
Stig
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I'm don't know how you fit on that like 200i
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I'm don't know how you fit on that like 200i
I rebuilt the seat --- sit so far back my knees never get near the bars. It is a very comfortable seat now....but probably has a seat height of 33+ inches with all the new foam.
At 6'3" I'm still flat footed at stop lights.
Stig
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That's a great ideal as long as it don't affect you turns
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That's a great ideal as long as it don't affect you turns
My turns are perfect now that my knees have departed the situation.
I have 0 complaints about this scooter. It gives very good value, and so far has never left me stranded....even with the throttle position sensor acting up - the scoot started & idled perfectly and ran hard with no issues.
Stig
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That's sounds great....a problem free scoot ;D
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6000 miles and going strong for mine. Love the Like!
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Is it in miles or kilometers,
DUD....YOU SAID MILES :o
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I like "truth"; so I agree it should be called the Like 170... Re: top speed, if i really wanted speed I wouldn't have sold the Ninja a few years ago :) But I really thought approaching 60years of age maybe 0 to 60 in 3.6 seconds was not such a good idea. The last big bike, the 2014 Harley Heritage Classic wasn't as fast as the Ninja, but the 103 ci HD had you going 80 or 90 mph very quickly with tons of throttle left.
At Social Security age (took it early) I have come to the conclusion I should own what suits my riding habits. Looking back the 800 pound beasts (Heritage and Fatboy, etc.) they provided comfort for the passenger and a stable ride at even 90mph and above; but I realized 90% of the time I was riding solo. Heavy Traffic in my area more often than not,made speed capability not much of an issue. Most of my most pleasant riding was done at about 45 mph on the local & back roads. So I went back to a scooter. May change my mind again, but I don't think so. The Like seems to suit me; 45 & 55 mph are it's comfort zones. If (after break-in) I see if I can get her up to 60-something that might be fun, but I bet I will be found at about 45 mph (and less) most of the time...
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I like "truth"; so I agree it should be called the Like 170... Re: top speed, if i really wanted speed I wouldn't have sold the Ninja a few years ago :) But I really thought approaching 60years of age maybe 0 to 60 in 3.6 seconds was not such a good idea. The last big bike, the 2014 Harley Heritage Classic wasn't as fast as the Ninja, but the 103 ci HD had you going 80 or 90 mph very quickly with tons of throttle left.
At Social Security age (took it early) I have come to the conclusion I should own what suits my riding habits. Looking back the 800 pound beasts (Heritage and Fatboy, etc.) they provided comfort for the passenger and a stable ride at even 90mph and above; but I realized 90% of the time I was riding solo. Heavy Traffic in my area more often than not,made speed capability not much of an issue. Most of my most pleasant riding was done at about 45 mph on the local & back roads. So I went back to a scooter. May change my mind again, but I don't think so. The Like seems to suit me; 45 & 55 mph are it's comfort zones. If (after break-in) I see if I can get her up to 60-something that might be fun, but I bet I will be found at about 45 mph (and less) most of the time...
Yep, 55mph+ on the LIKE is entertaining - but with that weight, wheelbase and 12" tires it isn't relaxing!
Stig
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My top speed 60...dealers lie!!
Agreed... I watched video of Mr. Greg Solano of Solano Scooters (three stores in Florida) he touts the Like Cruising comfortably at 60-65 mph. Mototorscooterguide.net (a respected scooter review site), sates the Like can go to 65 mph, dozens of others reviews all over the net, giving the top achievable speed to be 65 mph or higher. I believe the sales people/dealers lie (meaning they know, and are purposely being disingenuous); while the owners are biased towards embellishing results because it makes them feel better about the purchase. I am 180-183 pounds, 5'9", 32 inch inseam. Riding for over 45 years (everything from Big Harleys to Ninjas). My Like 200i has 1,000 miles on it. It's the 2015 50th Anniversary edition. The highest speed (as indicated by the bike's speedometer) has been 57 or 58 miles per hour. A few runs with a short duration (10 or 15 seconds at full throttle) have produced only 55 mph... If you're planning on being able to cruise at 60, with bursts of 65 or higher available to you, I will tell you I do not think that will happen. Maybe if you are a shorter/lighter rider (say 5'3" and a 115 or 120 pounds) you might see 65 on the speedometer (in the right weather conditions); but even that would be a generous conclusion because of the known bias of the speedometers (indication of speedometer is higher than actual speed).
Looking at options after you discover you've been lied to. The hit taken to trade out can be severe. My purchase $3,200 in change Out The Door occurred as I wrote, 1,000 miles ago (just over a month ago). Barney's of Brandon offered me between $1,000 and $1,300 in trade depending on which larger scooter I would be buying... I would give it to one of the kids as a gift before I traded it at that figure... There are reviewers touting over 70 miles per hour as top speed (one here stated 72). I believe they are doing a terrible disservice to people that are acting upon this information, that I believe is false...
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Agreed... I watched video of Mr. Solano of Solano Scooters (three stores in Florida) he touts the Like Cruising comfortably at 60-65 mph. Mototorscooterguide.net (a respected scooter review site), sates the Like can go 65 mph, dozens of others reviews all over the net, giving the top achievable speed to be 65 mph or higher. I believe the sales people/dealers lie (meaning they know and are purposely being disingenuous); while the owners are bias towards embellishing results because it makes them feel better about the purchase. I am 180-183 pounds, 5'9", 32 inch inseam. Riding for over 45 years (everything from Big Harleys to Ninjas). My Like 200i has 1,000 miles on it. It's the 2015 50th Anniversary edition. The highest speed as indicated by the bike's speedometer has been 57 or 58 miles per hour. A few runs with a short duration (10 or 15 seconds at full throttle) produce only 55 mph... If you're planning on being able to cruise at 60, with bursts of 65 or higher available to you, I will tell you do not think that will happen. Maybe if you are a shorter/lighter rider (say 5'3" and a 115 or 120 pounds) you might see 65 on the speedometer (in the right wether conditions); but even that is a generous conclusion because of the known bias of the speedometers (indication of speedometer is higher than actual speed).
The hit taken to trade out can be severe. My purchase $3,200 in change Out The Door occurred as I wrote, 1,000 miles ago (just over a month ago). Barney's of Brandon offered me between $1,000 and $1,300 in trade depending on which larger scooter I would be buying... I would give it to one of the kids as a gift before I traded it at that figure... There are reviewers touting over 70 miles per hour as top speed (one here stated 72). I believe they are doing a terrible disservice to people that are acting upon information that i believe is false...
Even trusted sources can give questionable reviews when speed comes in. In this review they talk 65-70 but at the end tell it like it is.
http://www.justgottascoot.com/like200.htm (http://www.justgottascoot.com/like200.htm)
Part of the problem is that salesman use "indicated" speed and on some scoots that 7% error or more.
Ever notice speedo error is never on the low side......
AMAC
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Some of these folks are stating in KPH and not MPH as far as speed reading I believe. Just so you guys don't feel too bad my Kawasaki speedometer reads about 5mph too fast. $5k bike too, so optimistic speed readings aren't just a Chinese thang................back to the stock like200, 60mph is about all your going to get with a 200lb rider broken in, I don't care what anyone claims.
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It IS sad when you find out that your salesman has fed you a load of schnitzle re. the LIKE's top speed.
I realy think they : 1) don't know it is really a 163cc
2) or, they DO know it is a 163 and think of other 150cc scooters and their top speeds.....and come to a wrong conclusion for the LIKE200i.
Whatever ....these LIKE's have a not too great re-sale value...so once the purchase is made and the mistake in its capabilities is discovered, it is tough to trade up.
I negotiated the best deal from 3 Honda dealers (phones & the internet are great bargaining tools~!) for my FORZA 300...but could not use the Kymco for a trade-in, or private sale.....not in this small midwestern town. It is worth more to me as an all weather work commuter, than the few hundreds I would have gotten for it.... And it is immaculate with 2 seats, OEM accessory crash bars and lighted top case.
I truly hope this header -"LIKE 200 top speed" will draw plenty of attention for any person out there researching the purchase of this scooter.
It is a fine looking, mid-to-small framed, urban, 50-55mph scooter.....with sketchy re-sale value. Buy it to keep it ! Tires and parts are cheap - Kymco makes the best quality replacement parts - once you have installed the NGK or Denso Iridium plug ($7) and Dr Pulley sliders ($25).
Stig (http://i59.tinypic.com/11vtxlf.jpg)
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It IS sad when you find out that your salesman has fed you a load of schnitzle re. the LIKE's top speed.
I realy think they : 1) don't know it is really a 163cc
2) or, they DO know it is a 163 and think of other 150cc scooters and their top speeds.....and come to a wrong conclusion for the LIKE200i.
Whatever ....these LIKE's have a not too great re-sale value...so once the purchase is made and the mistake in its capabilities is discovered, it is tough to trade up.
I negotiated the best deal from 3 Honda dealers (phones & the internet are great bargaining tools~!) for my FORZA 300...but could not use the Kymco for a trade-in, or private sale.....not in this small midwestern town. It is worth more to me as an all weather work commuter, than the few hundreds I would have gotten for it.... And it is immaculate with 2 seats, OEM accessory crash bars and lighted top case.
I truly hope this header -"LIKE 200 top speed" will draw plenty of attention for any person out there researching the purchase of this scooter.
It is a fine looking, mid-to-small framed, urban, 50-55mph scooter.....with sketchy re-sale value. Buy it to keep it ! Tires and parts are cheap - Kymco makes the best quality replacement parts - once you have installed the NGK or Denso Iridium plug ($7) and Dr Pulley sliders ($25).
Stig (http://i59.tinypic.com/11vtxlf.jpg)
Stig I think your # 2 point my be true for many. They know nothing about the product and just make an assumption of a healthy guess upward from the top speeds of the 15cc scoots they may have been familiar with.
But as you say the Like performs very well for what it is. Just took here (dodging rain clouds) for a 30 mile run to get "Hank the Pug" his dog food. US41 to County road 54 just past the Suncoast Parkway and return. Windy as all get out, but hit no rain. The Like is fun! 1,000 miles not a hiccup (no slip of belts, no loose fasteners, no unknown squeaks, starts in a second and a half every time I hit the button. brakes are fine). When measuring what I would get, I doubt a trade is forthcoming. If my youngest wanted another toy I would give it to her before I let a dealer have it for a third of what I paid just a short time ago. On a different note, I hit that same dip in the road on County road 54 again... You would think I learned, guess not :)
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Like 200 is a fine scoot if you don't get 1 of the lemons. Say 1 out of 5000 like mine was, then get no dealer or Kymco support. Look at all the posts here that are positive with many 1000s of miles on them. Thing is folks expect 200cc results with a 150cc engine class. For the money your getting a lot of scoot.