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Title: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: vicfromny on August 26, 2014, 12:22:47 AM
Just got my new Agility 50, and notice a very toxic gas  (oil?) smell after closing my garage door. It permeates through my house and I've had to park it outside. I thought it may be the gas cap??? Anyone else experience this and have a solution?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: njagility on August 26, 2014, 02:04:08 AM
I'd check the fuel lines for leaks. Mine (2012) doesn't smell of gas at all when parked in a closed garage. and it shouldn't.  It's unlikely to be the gas cap, but I guess it's possible if it's defective (or not closed). I presume you didn't overfill it and spill gas which is still evaporating.

If you can't figure it out yourself, get your dealer to look at it. It could be a safety issue if you have a leak.
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: BettinANDlosing on August 26, 2014, 04:27:06 AM
Did you recently fill up? If you did how full did you make it?
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: vicfromny on August 26, 2014, 04:43:19 PM
Just got back from the dealer. It was(is) the gas cap. The gasket is not seating properly. HMechanic changed gasket but still had same leakage when rocking the scooter around. They are going to replace my gas tank and cap completely. Problem solved,.....I hope!
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: vicfromny on September 18, 2014, 01:19:16 AM
 :(
Stopped by and told dealer I was bringing scoot back in cause there's still a strong gas odor in my garage. The mechanic replaced the gas tank and another gas cap,....SAME PROBLEM !!!! Mechanic said to tell dealer he should replace the bike!!!! Yeah, right....like he's gonna do that!
I'm gonna leave it with him till he fixes it,...I'm actually afraid to turn on light switch in my garage until after I air out the scooter.
I don't see any leaks. Maybe it's a bad carbuerator??? Let's wait and see. I'm gonna miss my daily rides for a bit, i guess.
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: zombie on September 18, 2014, 02:00:48 AM
I don't understand hoe it could smell so much, and you see no leak or puddle.

Perhaps the drain screw of float bowl is leaking. That will drip on top of the crank case, and there is a sort of well there that can hold several ounces of fuel.

I guess the dealer will sort it.
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: vicfromny on September 18, 2014, 07:44:37 PM
Thanks. I recently (today) said to a friend, "could it be the carb?). How do I check this out?? Can you elaborate? Wherre is the drain screw?
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: zombie on September 18, 2014, 08:18:37 PM
If you remove the seat, and the well under it you will be able to see where I am talking about. Outside in the sunlight or perhaps a flashlight will help.
On the bottom of the fuel bowl (left hand side) there is a recessed screw. That simply opens to drain the float bowl. If there is a poorly cleaned out casting it will leak or perhaps it is simply loose.
Likewise the bowl itself could be loose or a poorly fitted gasket could be weeping.

In either case I would think a mechanic replacing the fuel tank would catch this. Sometimes tho we get so focused on the task at hand the we are blind to other things.
This has to be an easy fix. Leaking fuel is obvious.
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: vicfromny on September 19, 2014, 12:04:49 AM
Thanks for the tip. I will check it out ASAP. 
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: vicfromny on September 19, 2014, 01:24:27 PM
Thanks for your tip, Zombie! I removed the seat this morning while airing out the garage, and lo and behold, I got my finger wet with gas when rubbing bottom of carb. I will point this out to the dealer/mechanic on Monday when I bring it in. The odor is not coming from the gas cap after all.
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: zombie on September 19, 2014, 02:26:15 PM
I'm glad you found it.
Not to add worry to the trouble you already have but riding with a fuel leak is less than a good idea. If you cannot trailer the bike there I would at least consider bringing a small Co2 fire extinguisher., and keep an eye open.
I've had a couple close calls myself. Burning bikes stink!
Title: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: The moped learner on September 20, 2014, 02:53:25 AM
Burning zombies stink too! 😉
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: BettinANDlosing on September 20, 2014, 03:04:44 AM
I'm surprised the dealer just jumped to replacing the tank before checking the easy stuff out LOL. It takes like 5 minutes to check the carb and lines. I guess they like doing lots of unnecessary work, did i mention Kymco pays very little for warranty labor... You should pop your carb out instead of risking a fire, i know you have a warranty but its really easy to get the carb out and you'll learn a little too. If its on the bottom of the carb itself zombie said it first, loose drain screw or lose float bowl both very easy to fix.
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: vicfromny on September 21, 2014, 03:32:24 PM
Thanks for the replys. Guess what!?? Yesterday I remember hitting a small pothole while riding, and put scooter away for the night.....NOW THERE IS NO GAS SMELL in garage or house this morning.  !!!!!!!! WTF? Something in carb maybe (float?) was stuck?? I don't know now,....so I'll wait and see after next ride. I also think I will check out the carb and lines myself since I am mechanichally declined ,oops! I mean inclined.
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: de dee on September 21, 2014, 06:16:42 PM
   your house should be sealed from the garage,  when the door is shut, if not check it out! your life is in the balance,
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: vicfromny on September 21, 2014, 11:04:23 PM
Thanks for the advice, De Dee.
Will check that out too.
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: zombie on September 22, 2014, 12:27:01 AM
   your house should be sealed from the garage,  when the door is shut, if not check it out! your life is in the balance,

Good point Dee.
It's the law in most states.
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: vicfromny on September 30, 2014, 07:16:38 PM
Dealer has the agility 50 for 8 days now,...I decided to bring it in due to warranty. He is replacing carb due to split gasket,...so I guess I was smelling raw gas fumes after all! If it's fixed properly it was worth the wait. I'll pick it up tomorrow.
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: zombie on October 01, 2014, 12:28:26 PM
Well worth the wait. I'm glad to hear you have it sorted out.
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: CROSSBOLT on October 01, 2014, 02:36:15 PM
Me too, glad it is fixed! Just another example of how POOR these dealer techs are. You will find the answer on this forum and not at any dealer. Well, maybe one dealer, somewhere. I just don't know where....

Karl
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: zombie on October 01, 2014, 06:33:11 PM
I think the problem lies in the fact there are so few scooters, and obviously far less dedicated scooter dealers.
There are a few shops in Tallahassee that sell scoots but only one scooter only shop. That shop had their fresh out of high school son as their mechanic, and honestly he could not spell scooter in the beginning.
The motorcycle shops all put "the new kid" on scooters, and they are just as bad. I've been a mechanic my entire life, and I can count all the great mechanics I have met on the fingers/toes I have. Most just take these jobs because they can't hack Mickey D's, and wind up working for whatever city they live in working on lawn mowers/weed wackers.

Your point about the forum(s) is validated mainly because of the vast pool of combined experience we have.
What puzzles me is the fact there are not more qualified mechanics on this or other scooter forums. B&L is the ONLY full time scooter mechanic (that I know of) on this forum. I think it is a GREAT thing he is doing here, both for the membership, and his career. If more shops had guys that followed his lead... There would be no need for the forum.
If I didn't find Kymco forum I would have junked my bike the first time it broke, and I had to pay 70.00 bucks for a CDI.
I imagine the same could be said for most if not all of the membership here.
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: BettinANDlosing on October 01, 2014, 08:52:25 PM
I think the problem lies in the fact there are so few scooters, and obviously far less dedicated scooter dealers.
There are a few shops in Tallahassee that sell scoots but only one scooter only shop. That shop had their fresh out of high school son as their mechanic, and honestly he could not spell scooter in the beginning.
The motorcycle shops all put "the new kid" on scooters, and they are just as bad. I've been a mechanic my entire life, and I can count all the great mechanics I have met on the fingers/toes I have. Most just take these jobs because they can't hack Mickey D's, and wind up working for whatever city they live in working on lawn mowers/weed wackers.

Your point about the forum(s) is validated mainly because of the vast pool of combined experience we have.
What puzzles me is the fact there are not more qualified mechanics on this or other scooter forums. B&L is the ONLY full time scooter mechanic (that I know of) on this forum. I think it is a GREAT thing he is doing here, both for the membership, and his career. If more shops had guys that followed his lead... There would be no need for the forum.
If I didn't find Kymco forum I would have junked my bike the first time it broke, and I had to pay 70.00 bucks for a CDI.
I imagine the same could be said for most if not all of the membership here.

👆 ☝ ☝😎
I wish more than anything that the guys at kymco USA had a presence on here, they have some really good techs there that have helped me step through mystery bikes. I have found that motorcycle shops, even ones that sell scooters don't like them and hardly support parts at all other than special order. I love keeping peoples bikes running and hope to open my own shop soon here in Portland.
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: zombie on October 01, 2014, 11:33:01 PM
When America goes to sh**, I hope I will have an empty shop next door (in New Zealand) that you can call home.
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: BettinANDlosing on October 02, 2014, 12:50:29 AM
It's only a 5 month voyage via sailboat
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: zombie on October 02, 2014, 07:08:46 AM
I'll send a plane. First 5 bottles of hootch, are on the house. After that I'll have a body bag waiting for you.
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: vicfromny on October 08, 2014, 11:54:06 AM
Thanks to all for your remarks. The forum is truly a great place to learn. My Agility 50 is now ODOR FREE!!!! Same carb, but with a new gasket. The original gasket had a cut or split and was leaking. Thanks again Zombie for making me check this out MYSELF and bringing it to the mechanics attention. Garage smells nice again!!!!
Ciao for now,....
Vic From NY
PS: LOVE my Scoot!
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: zombie on October 08, 2014, 03:29:48 PM
Yo!
Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: BettinANDlosing on October 09, 2014, 01:45:16 AM
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Title: Re: Extreme gas vapor smell in house after parking my 2014 agility 50 in my garage
Post by: zombie on October 09, 2014, 05:37:30 AM
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