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I really like the Kymco Downtown 350. It's reliable, highway capable, comfortable and two shopping bags can fit under the seat just like it's predecessor the Downtown 300i.

But there was one small niggle I noticed over the past few years (from removing the front cover for a coolant change for example) that didn't affect reliability or function, but was a design flaw in the headlight where heat from the 55W halogen bulb melted the plastic housing directly above it and caused it to crumble away, leaving a sizeable hole. This needed to be fixed.


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As we know, the vast majority of scooter CVTs/transmission have a cooling system. The front drive pulley has a centrifugal fan (the fins) that sucks in air through an intake - basically a hole in the transmission cover. Hot air is pushed out through to a vent in the back or bottom of the CVT cover, cooling the pulleys, clutch and belt to prevent damage from overheating.

In some scooters, the cooling intake is covered with a filter. Not all models have CVT filters, such as the Downtown 300 which either has no filter or a rudimentary mesh filter, compared to the Downtown 350 which has a foam filter. This filter protects the CVT from rocks and debris but also needs to provide good airflow for cooling.

Here are the steps to clean your CVT filter.

1) Remove the filter from the transmission.


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Technical | How To / Bad fuel economy/mileage? Check your transmission
« on: October 17, 2023, 06:56:11 AM »
I recently had a transmission issue where a roller got stuck. It was caused by a single roller that developed a flat spot then broke open. Thread here: https://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=33745.30. The scooter is a Kymco Downtown 350i.

Over the previous 11,000km or so, I noticed that the scooter's fuel use climbed gradually over time.

From 3.6L per 100km and before the sudden failure of the transmission, consistently 4.2 to 4.5L. Otherwise there were no obvious symptoms such as power loss, lag, vibration etc. Likely the onset of any power loss was so gradual I didn't notice it.

All caused by a single roller that wore down abnormally from a defective ramp plate and dirt build-up inside variator and didn't move properly, likely causing the variator to be in the wrong position (and therefore the wrong ratio) when accelerating and coasting. Photo attached shows the broken roller with the flat spot, plus a second roller with a minor flat spot that is not really an issue.

The rollers and ramp plate have been replaced, all the dirt cleaned out with brake cleaner and fuel consumption has returned to 3.5 to 3.7L/100km. The scooter is also more zippy with better response.

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Downtown 350 with 30,000km.

Riding on the street in heavy traffic. Moved off from stationary and the bike started shaking/stumbling on acceleration to 40km/h. Idle speed dropped to 1400 rpm. Above 40km/h, no issues with acceleration or vibration as if it was normal.

The other issue that suddenly appeared was the bike would move forward on idle. Pulled over and noticed that the rear wheel would spin fast and could only be stopped by holding the brake.

I strongly suspect that one of the clutch pad springs broke and the pad is now engaging with the clutch bell, causing the transmission to be engaged with the rear wheel all the time.

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Short story: Downtown 350 has 30,000km on it. Decided to add injector cleaner (PEA based) and ran it for a full tank, approximately 300km. When doing random cold engine oil check I noticed the oil, despite originally being 15W-50, lost viscosity and was almost watery. Looking at many other forums this is a known phenomenon, in fact some manufacturers recommend changing the oil after using fuel injector cleaner.

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Kymco News / New DT X360 Adventure Scooter
« on: March 03, 2022, 12:01:43 PM »
The Kymco DT X360 has been released in Australia. https://kymco.com.au/dt-x360/

It's based on the Downtown 350i TCS with different fairings and styling. Looks nice, but otherwise not much of an advantage for off-roading - needs all waterproof connections, body protectors, more ground clearance and some luggage racks.

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General Discussion / EICMA 2021 - new models from 2022 onwards
« on: December 06, 2021, 08:39:51 AM »
Nice video of Kymco's display at EICMA in Italy this year.


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When doing the gear oil change for the first time, I noticed that the 8mm fill plug was on very tight and  I was never unable to torque it back on properly. Being overtightened and stripped, this caused the plug to weep oil over the course of hundreds of kilometres. My dealer wanted to take the whole transmission apart, which would have been an expensive exercise. As a DIY person I decided to find the simplest and cheapest way to repair the leak. I didn't like the idea of using a matching 8mm helicoil or timesert or tapping a larger 10mm hole as the drilling process of a blind hole would put metal shards all inside the transmission.

Looking into the stripped hole, I noticed that the stripped hole was deeper than the bolt and there was still some good thread remaining. Using this idea, I decided to replace the original bolt with a longer one.

The original bolt was M8 x 1.25mm and 12mm long with a flange. The new bolt to be used is a longer 16mm bolt (with a hex insert dome head because I like the shape). I also decided to use a 8mm Dowty washer, which is a special washer that comes with a bonded rubber seal, like an O-ring. If it's good enough for high pressure oil and hydraulic lines, it should be enough for a transmission.

The new 16mm bolt and Dowty washer was screwed into the stripped hole and torqued to spec (10 Nm) with no issues. I made sure that there was no metal bits or loose threads in the hole and that the tip of the bolt didn't make contact with any of the gears in the transmission. Just to be safe, I drained and replaced the gear oil to flush out any debris in the transmission.

Overall the fix cost less than $15 and all parts came from eBay. After a long ride there were no leaks, so the job is done. This may also work for engine oil drain plugs too.

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Technical | How To / The truth about fuel dilution
« on: May 05, 2021, 05:18:46 AM »
I was just going through my warranty guide and noticed there was a section about oil consumption. We all know it is normal for some oil to be burnt between oil changes. However what interested me was a paragraph which stated that start-stop traffic causes fuel dilution (i.e. contamination of fuel in engine oil). The only way to avoid fuel dilution is to travel at a constant low speed which is impossible 90% of the time.

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Technical | How To / [Updated] Washed bike - destroyed battery and ECU
« on: December 13, 2020, 07:09:07 AM »
I have a DT350i 2017 with 15,000km. I recently washed it with a pressure washer and for some reason I decided to aim the nozzle horizontally instead of top-down. Now, the bike cannot start and instead makes a crackling sound around the relay area and dashboard flashes when the ignition is turned on. A quick battery check shows that the voltage drops quickly from 12V to less than 6V, even before trying starting the engine (which it cannot). I suspect a short somewhere.

I am allowing it to dry for a full day and purchased a new battery. I have also sprayed contact cleaner around all the electrical connections I can see. Any ideas?

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Technical | How To / Weep hole leak due to pressure (fix)
« on: December 01, 2020, 04:52:38 AM »
My DT350i only has 15,000km and developed a small leak from the water pump weep hole, mostly apparent after rides. Upon opening the radiator cap the overflow hose was clogged with Stop Leak powder. The hose connection to the overflow tank is only 2-3mm in diameter, making it easy to clog and cause overpressure, forcing coolant out of any hole, including the weep hole.

Rinsed the hose and did a full flush, all fixed.

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General Discussion / Paint codes
« on: June 15, 2020, 12:51:43 AM »
Any know the paint codes for Kymco's Matt Silver Crystal or equivalents? Need some for a panel repair.

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Technical | How To / They also fixed the Downtown's underseat light
« on: July 30, 2019, 10:28:50 AM »
I have noticed that the underseat light on the 350i has been moved more sensibly to the left side of the seat bucket so it doesn't shine into your face in the dark. It also uses a nifty infrared transmitter/receiver reflecting off the seat latch and logic switch to turn it on and off accordingly. This means no more 'MET-IN' light and closing your seat twice just to make sure. However as a light source it is still weak and the sensor is always on, so there is a risk of battery drain.

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Technical | How To / They finally fixed the Downtown's regulator
« on: July 30, 2019, 06:55:54 AM »
As mentioned in this forum a few times, the Downtown is well known for having a weak charging system. The regulator-rectifier is especially problematic as it can't seem to handle the power requirements of the scooter and is located above the exhaust pipe so it overheats easily. I have replaced the regulator twice and stator once during my 300i's lifetime.

In the Downtown 350i Kymco has noticed this issue affecting 300i models and replaced the faulty design with a different regulator. One thing to mention is that it looks much more robust with a bigger aluminium heatsink and thicker wiring. It has been relocated to the left side of the bike above the airbox to allow better airflow and cooling. This adds to the LED front indicators and LED brake light and a 55W headlight (35W+35W on the 300i) which helps further reduce current draw.

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Downtown 300 / Owner comparison: Downtown 300i vs 350i
« on: July 19, 2019, 02:40:07 AM »
I have recently acquired a 2017 DT350i with less than 5000km on the clock. After 80,000km with the DT300i and numerous issues that developed over the past few months it was time to move on.

First impressions: The 350i carries over nearly everything from the 300i that made it good. The engine looks and feels exactly the same, the transmission is a bit smoother and the controls are where you expect them to be. The seat is exactly the same which is good for me, a short person. Even the service intervals are the same.

Pros: improved headlights, front LED indicators, LED taillight, better access to the battery and rear brake pads, seat opens easily
Cons: blue dash is a bit too bright, both gloveboxes feel flimsy, key cover is harder to open due to angle

Is it worth upgrading from a 300i to a 350? Probably not as there is not much difference. However if you want to a new scooter then the 350i should be at the top of your list.

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