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Title: Piaggio came today....
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on August 01, 2017, 10:47:29 PM
The Liberty S seems like a solid little scooter. Big wheels and light weight make it very easy to roll around.
Got it covered by Progressive - and it's road ready for 600 miles of running in.
Starting with tomorrow's before-sunrise coffee run - I know the front lighting can't equal the Burgman's twin running lights. Those were amazing.
(https://s4.postimg.org/yqnwl5i3x/P1010676.jpg)

I like the details on this scooter....red stitching on the seat, chrome bits all around, nice paint and well fitted panels, LED running lights, immobilizer, ABS front, nice dash.
(https://s1.postimg.org/eftlk9qn3/P1010674.jpg)

(https://s2.postimg.org/q76t68xih/P1010690.jpg)

I like the Piaggio 'neck tie' up front.
(https://s3.postimg.org/ezw6s00yb/P1010680.jpg)

One option I ordered today from ScootWest is this Piaggio fly screen. Never had a screen on the LIKE - even on the coldest Ohio winter days I did not want one. But I liked the look of this one as seen on Robot's 20 min youtuve review of the Liberty. Might install a side stand - but don't half trust those things on a scoot with no parking brake. They also sell a rubber floor mat....but don't know about that accessory. I want my feet to slide quickly off the floor when stopping - so plastic floor is good for me.
(https://s1.postimg.org/rbg79nxhr/fly.jpg)

More on it's road manners later.....

Stig
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: pipster326 on August 01, 2017, 11:03:25 PM
Stig, that's a nice looking scooter. Love the lights and dash. Hope you enjoy it. Safe travels.

Rich


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Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: PaulF on August 01, 2017, 11:10:18 PM
Looks good Stig.  Don't think we have that model here but I have been looking at the Medley which does look very similar and I will have to find out what the differences are.  Do you know what the service intervals are yet and where this modal was made as I believe Piaggio get a few made in Spain.
http://www.scooterunderground.com/knowledge/Where_scooters_made.htm (http://www.scooterunderground.com/knowledge/Where_scooters_made.htm)
Medley photos
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on August 01, 2017, 11:34:08 PM
Looks good Stig.  Don't think we have that model here but I have been looking at the Medley which does look very similar and I will have to find out what the differences are.  Do you know what the service intervals are yet and where this modal was made as I believe Piaggio get a few made in Spain.
http://www.scooterunderground.com/knowledge/Where_scooters_made.htm (http://www.scooterunderground.com/knowledge/Where_scooters_made.htm)
Medley photos

Believe it's assembled by my old shootin' buddies in Vietnam!
Will do a vin search to see.
I purchased a 248 page pdf service manual yesterday (for $8)....service intervals are getting stretched by manufacturers in order to look better to us - but I pay little attention to them. I do over-kill on everything that needs routine servicing (oils, brake fluid, filters, etc.) They have an Asian version and a European version - still sorting which one I have - may have to go measure the wheelbase ( they are different!)
They want to see me in 600 miles for a $200 servicing. Doubt seriously that will include the valves - but if it does i might just give it to them --- one last time -- before they never see me again!

Valves: 600 miles, then every 10,000K
Engine oil & filter: the same (no way I'm waiting that long!)
Hub oil & brake fluid- look at it every 5000K
Belt: 10,000K replace
Spark plug: 20,000K
Rollesr: 20,000 replace

Still looking for fuel req. ---- assume it will be regular gas w/10% corn

Manual looks like a phone book...in 4 languages.

Lovin' so far!
Stig
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: CROSSBOLT on August 01, 2017, 11:49:26 PM
Very nice! Waiting for ride report.....

Karl
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: PaulF on August 02, 2017, 03:14:30 AM
Thanks for that reply Stig and I hope you have a lot of fun with it.

Paul
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: GLV55 on August 02, 2017, 03:49:13 AM
That is going to be such a sweet ride if it rides as good as it looks. Congrats on the new scooter!
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: Scooter Dan on August 02, 2017, 12:59:19 PM
You doing a top case Tom? Thinking about upgrading in size on my BW. I love storage as I usually have a small back pack with personal stuff like water, eye glasses, sometimes a snack, small notebook and pens, sometimes a small tablet computer. Anyway, can't wait to hear your ride report.
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: Hairy Bob on August 03, 2017, 07:39:19 AM
8) Very, very nice Stig. Congrats mate. Every good boy deserves nice toys  ;).
Enjoy and ride safe.
Best regards
Hairy Bob.
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: ole two wheels on August 03, 2017, 04:47:06 PM
You did well, my man. Really an eye catcher. I love the little chrome pieces . As a former Harley rider, you know I love chrome. You know what they say, "Chrome won't get you home, but it sure looks nice while you're waiting for the tow." Don't think you'll be waiting for a tow anytime soon. I also love those wheels. You've got class and you are riding in style.
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: MJR on August 04, 2017, 03:38:15 AM
It is quite nice, I was just looking at a red S model today at another dealer and they also had a blue standard model but the select black and chrome treatments really make a big difference.
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: Redk on August 04, 2017, 07:06:00 AM
I am curious what the stock tires are, and how they perform.
and, if you will replace them, and with what ?  :-)
redk
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: MJR on August 04, 2017, 05:01:07 PM
I am curious what the stock tires are, and how they perform.
and, if you will replace them, and with what ?  :-)

I thought it came with Michelin City Grips.
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on August 05, 2017, 03:47:26 PM
I thought it came with Michelin City Grips.
Every new "Vespa" I've seen have been shod with City Grips....even the $10000 946, or 964, 777, etc.? is wearing City Grips.
These $3000 Piaggios come shod with Maxxi'es...made I think in sunny Uzbekistan .....which is up by Cleveland if I'm not mistaken.
In any even, since I'm no longer commuting daily to work in all weathers .....these Uzbeckies should be adequate...at my speeds.
The one thing I  AM going to do is install a nice new NGK Iridium plug.

And have measured the battery...and the dang batt. box is so small I can't find an improvement  on the puny 6 A stock battery! @#$%^*
Might have to do a battery box mod.

I like little EFI Scooters with Iridium plugs and powerful batteries.....when I want a start miles from home at 10 degrees Fahrenheit.

Stig
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: PaulF on August 06, 2017, 12:04:57 AM
Hey Stig,  how does the headlight on the new scooter compare to the Like200, hopefully brighter.

Paul
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on August 06, 2017, 11:20:06 AM
Hey Stig,  how does the headlight on the new scooter compare to the Like200, hopefully brighter.

Paul

Hey Paul,

Yeah, with my first dark ride I  discovered that a 150 size scooter, with only a single headlight,  does not have to be as dim as the one on the LIKE. This headlight and bulb look no different than what I see in the LIKE200I. ....but it sure is a lot brighter in front of me out on the dark streets! Can't  explain it. ....but is quite noticeable.
And I  do not have an old bulb or weak battery in the LIKE200I. 
So, ...?
I do need to adjust the headlight aim in the Liberty down, some. The high beam is good for alerting me to a monkey attack from the branches above! °¿°
Doing so might also eliminate some of the top edge glare I'm getting from the new Piaggio fly screen. Otherwise will need a strip of that chrome vinyl door edge trim to deal with it.
The ride ? Well it has been years since I've  ridden on anything but my massively padded rebuilt LIKE200i seat, or a Forza or a Burgman seat...so the firmness of this Piaggio seat is sure different!
Playing with tire pressures and the 5 position shock at present.
Piaggio recommends an 8lb range for the rear tire psi.

Iridium NGK is ordered. Rec'd the oil filters, O rings, oil screen, and valve cover O ring, air filters yesterday. Downloaded  a 248 pg service manual.

Enjoying it so far. (Might have sold another one to a fellow here in the Tim Hortons parking lot!....He's been looking at a Grom...but likes these big wheels. )
Stig
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: PaulF on August 06, 2017, 11:47:43 PM
Thanks again, appreciated.

Paul
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: Scooter Dan on August 07, 2017, 12:04:05 AM
Ah, the Grom. Wanted one too but would have had to buy a new wife too. That little monkey bike created quite a stir in our home.
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: Redk on August 08, 2017, 12:51:16 AM
A lot of kids have fun with the Grom, but I have almost as much fun with the scooters, and they are even practical !
( Well, maybe not 'almost' as much fun as a young buck on a bike, but I grin at people a lot ! )
redk
Title: fill us in on the important things
Post by: boo on August 08, 2017, 01:18:49 PM
How does it run?. Does it pull you around good?. How is the overall feel?.
Sounds like it would be a great city bike.
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on August 09, 2017, 03:24:23 PM
How does it run?. Does it pull you around good?. How is the overall feel?.
Sounds like it would be a great city bike.
Haven't  really hammered the throttle yet boo, still running-in the engine.
But certainly equals the throttle response of the slightly larger LIKE200I engine.
I will probably  discover, once broken in, that it is a little quicker than my LIKE200I. Top speed a touch higher, as well. We will see.
The larger wheels will certainly give it a more stable ride, at speed.
Working to solve the flyscreen glare-back. I spoke with ScooterWest tech.....he quickly agreed that this is a problem with this Piaggio product (the flyscreen) on two Piaggio scooters - the Fly and the new Liberty.
He offered to take it back.
I like the screen and will try one or two things first....before tossing in the towel, and returning it.
I love this scooter...and would love to have a white one on my living room. Can't  find an angle that doesn't please me!
Impressed by the design and the build quality at this price!. ...but would have paid another $100 to have City Grips, like the higher priced scooters from the Piaggio/Vespa/Aprilia  group.
Stig


Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: TroutBum on August 14, 2017, 05:10:35 PM
Stig, ride more. Wear out stock tires. Replace with City Grip. Issue solved.  ;D
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: TroutBum on August 16, 2017, 08:57:41 PM
So how do you decide which scooter to ride? What a nice dilemma to be in.  8)
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on August 16, 2017, 11:07:26 PM
So how do you decide which scooter to ride? What a nice dilemma to be in.  8)

Took out the LIKE the other morning. The actual ride comfort of my LIKE was matched only by the weighty Forza (440lbs) and Burgman beast (500lbs) - that big ol' goofy looking seat that I built for the LIKE is so comfortable !!
As I've said before , the LIKE may be banging around beneath me over rough stuff - but I'm barely feeling it in the seat.
I kept adding foam to hide that pan ridge and to widen the seat, until I got something truly ugly but more plush and supportive (side-to-side) than any 2-wheel seat I've ever sat upon. At 6'3" my knees are well back form the bars. It's like a big long, straight Vespa seat. But, ugly.

The Piaggio is easy to keep clean, and to service (so far) - but I will probably park it through the winter months when there might be even a hint of salt residue on the roads. The LIKE with it's big YUASA will be used then.
The Liberty's tiny battery box is the only gripe I've found so far. There aren't any more powerful conventional batteries that will fit in that small space. But if I'm not riding it in the dead of winter - it's probably of no consequence. I was going to swap over the Burgman's battery-tender pigtail before it went on the truck - but it was too hard to get at. BTW - Portland says the scoot has yet to arrive. (loaded onto the truck 8 days ago - due to arrive today according to the paper-work)

Braking in the Piaggio, and adding some essentials. Replacing the 'sporty' black mirrors with Piaggio chrome (standard on the non-S models),  replaced the black heat shield with a metallic silver (again, standard on the non-S model)....and of course had to have a nice little 6-legged AGIP logo belt cover emblem!
Looking forward to the first oil and filter change...and the valves!

The possible resale value of the LIKE is so small, at 4+ yrs and pushing 13,000 miles - and I have so many new spares - I'll probably hang onto it for awhile. Maybe years? It is like new to me - and worth keeping.
(https://s30.postimg.org/j34r6gk41/claudia11.jpg)
Stig
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: de dee on August 17, 2017, 02:21:29 AM
I had the oil changed last Thursday at 360 Km.  before my trip to Manchester NH. and was surprized that the dealer put full syn. oil in it,  they said it comes with full syn. oil for the break in,  new type engine and new ideas,.  so break in was between 60 Km. and 120 Kmh.  up and down in speed did not open it up till 2000 Km., then hit 155 Kmh.  very short run on super slab,  it pulls up to 85 Mph. then fades away,  I got a down hill run for 155 Kmh.,  don't know what RPM was as there is no gauge
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: Scooter Dan on August 18, 2017, 12:53:00 PM
Nice looking pair of scoots Tom. BTW, liked what the buyer of your Burgman said about you. I'll buy anything you're selling.
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: Scooter Dan on August 18, 2017, 01:05:44 PM
I had the oil changed last Thursday at 360 Km.  before my trip to Manchester NH.

Ah, me old stomping grounds. Graduated from Nashua High in 68. Remember walking from Manchester to Nashua once (can't recall why) but took us all night. Beautiful part of God's green earth. Now live in Texas but in the pretty part with hills-n-lakes-n-pine trees.
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on August 18, 2017, 02:42:55 PM
Nice looking pair of scoots Tom. BTW, liked what the buyer of your Burgman said about you. I'll buy anything you're selling.

Thanks Dan,
Here's 2 pix I took while they were bringing around the transport, at the dealer's.
(https://s27.postimg.org/rq13ameo3/002.jpg)

(https://s27.postimg.org/4eczlj0eb/001.jpg)

Notice the plywood ?? This dealer was hit by a tornado several days before - lost all of the front glass....and a whole bunch of big bikes parked in the front show-room were damaged. None of the Piaggio/Vespa scoots were damaged since they reside back in the big service bay (block construction with  strong steel roof)
Twister touched down just across the street - taking out a popular diner, crossed over and hit this dealer and took the roof off a Shell station, some siding off a dollar store - then was gone.

Pretty good folks to deal with - they're the ones who changed out my rear Michelin and the fork bearing on my LIKE back in the spring while I was prom dress shopping with my daughter. They took a lot less time - than the shopping did!

I looked at the Vespas that day - but the Liberty's were still on a ship somewhere off the east coast.
Actually, don't remember what lead me to look for this Piaggio - but happy I found it. Have liked the looks and the idea of big-wheeled scoots for years.
The dealer was happy to sell something - as the shop looked like a goner from the street - all plywood!

Stig
 
Title: Re: Piaggio came today....
Post by: big blue on August 18, 2017, 05:29:39 PM
Very nice looking scoot Stig and it goes well with the Italian lines of the Like.