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Scooters - 125 to 300 => LIKE 200i => Topic started by: Stig / Major Tom on March 13, 2017, 03:11:27 PM
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I refitted the wheel, fender hugger, fork, brake, shock, exhaust, airfilter box, 02 sensor, and brake line support.
I expected three jobs to be trouble....Two were, one wasn't.
1) slipping wheel back on axle without beating up axle or wheel mating surfaces -- with shock still in place....
Solution: I brought the wheel in from the rear, between the two shocks and maneuvered it up & into place on the axle.
2) fishing the exhaust back into the scooter, and placing over the front studs.
Solution: I placed a mirror under the scoot to view the studs, and hung the rear of the muffler on a loop of string from the rear rack. This way I could float the pipe onto the studs...and get those nuts loosely started. All fasteners finger tight until I had all of them in place ...then tightened each in rotation - front to back.
3) refitting the tire hugger....with the airfilter box propped up with some foam padding the hugger aligned itself easily back in place. Put the hex screw on a magnetic wand & reached in and started the threads.
Wheel on the axle and fork in place with the new spacer, collar, washer and nut.
(https://s27.postimg.cc/6p3s8ukir/reep0.jpg)
Fender hugger on....
(https://s1.postimg.cc/h07igbeen/reep.jpg)
Shock remounted....
(https://s16.postimg.cc/vfl6xxqmd/reep1.jpg)
Caliper remounted....
(https://s8.postimg.cc/3puan5eol/reep2.jpg)
All back together.(https://s9.postimg.cc/9w9l4ua2n/reep00.jpg)
Stig
PS: sure would be nice if that was a slip-on muffler!
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I have found that I will keep a big piece of cardboard around, in case I need to lay on the garage floor to get to those exhaust bolts.
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Chapeau, chapeau! Job done - successfully. :) 8)
Very interesting, creative approaches and solutions to the 3 expected challenges.
My challenge - maybe soon - will be to try to keep it even a little bit more simple. I want to find the quickest, easiest and simpliest way to do the job removing and reinstalling the tire. For instance I would want to leave the fender hugger in place, just remove the right side screw. Just want to move it up and out of the way as much as needed - if possible.
I would also deflate the tire on removal and reinstall and try to squeeze it as necessary to get passed the shock, the dipstick and underneath the fender hugger from the right side.
Maybe I will need to remove both shock bolts to lower the rear wheel even a little bit more to get it done sucessfully. And maybe put a piece of wooden board underneath the mainstand just to jack it up a little bit more and get a few more inches of ground clearance.
To reinstall the pipe onto the studs, I will try to mount the rear of the muffler with just one bolt loosely to the rear fork, so I might be able to swing the pipe onto the studs.
And yes, I will also have to lay on the floor for the pipe/stud operation. So therefore the hint with the cardbords is for sure valuable.
So far so good in theory. ;D Reality check to be followed... ??? :o :)
And maybe I will also write a report about it.
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Did you replace the valve stem with similar 90 degree angle type?
Nice write up Stig. Thanks for sharing.
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I have found that I will keep a big piece of cardboard around, in case I need to lay on the garage floor to get to those exhaust bolts.
Yep, Have been using card board for years for auto-work.....but working on scooters and motorcycles is so low and so much knee work....that I went out and bought a very thick 2' x 6' exercise mat at Dick's to kneel on.
30 years of painting and construction work + a knee operation....I'm telling you, that was the best $29 I've spent in a while!
One more tool I might ask for Xmas or my B.Day, is a visor light to fix on my Red Sox hat. 3 times I was needing an extra hand to see things like the O2 harness connector, off-side hugger screw, and the exhaust studs in the mirror.
And I frequently have trouble deciphering how each different Oriental wiring clip must be released. (Honda, Kymco, Suzuki have their own ideas) Squeez where, lift here, presswhat??....and is extra frustrating if no 3rd hand to hold flash light.
Lots of hot coffee and hand warming time-outs due to tools, floor and garage being in the low 20's all day.
It was good that no plastic panel clips were involved....would have had to postpone.
THE best panel removal pix I've ever seen are on this page, by this industrious Forza owner. He pulled his whole new scooter apart to see how things worked. Fearless clip & panel man!
http://www.hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=3058&p=43161&hilit=panels#p43161 (http://www.hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=3058&p=43161&hilit=panels#p43161)
Stig
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Did you replace the valve stem with similar 90 degree angle type?
Nice write up Stig. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Trout,
No, I have a 90 degree air hose fitting and a 90 degree pressure gauge.
I'm leery of those 90 degree valve stems, because of the high speeds I ride. ;)
[Once in my mirror I saw my scoot fling one off and hole the radiator of a following F-350 Dually. I only just escaped down an off ramp before his buddy Skeeter got the assault weapon they use for squirrel hunting out of the gun rack.
Things are different here in the MidWest.]
I did remember to call the Vespa tech. since I forgot to mention a new valve stem. He put in a reg. shorty straight stem.
Stig
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Excellent, Stig! You are the one to rewrite the service manual!
Karl
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Yes Karl, and nobody needs to buy the Cyclepedia repair manual anymore, because it´s all documented in this forum for free and better than ever before by our famous most senior technician Stig from Ohio. :) ;)
And I always admire Stig´s commitment to do all that kind of demanding service work in a cold garage in the low 20´s.
My comfortzone probably starts in the 70´s. :D 8)
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Thanks Trout,
No, I have a 90 degree air hose fitting and a 90 degree pressure gauge.
I'm leery of those 90 degree valve stems, because of the high speeds I ride. ;)
[Once in my mirror I saw my scoot fling one off and hole the radiator of a following F-350 Dually. I only just escaped down an off ramp before his buddy Skeeter got the assault weapon they use for squirrel hunting out of the gun rack.
Things are different here in the MidWest.]
I did remember to call the Vespa tech. since I forgot to mention a new valve stem. He put in a reg. shorty straight stem.
Stig
LMAO. I needed that today. :)
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Instead of cardboard I use a giant beach towel. Needless to say my wife isn't pleased. ;D
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As long as you don´t drag the bedrooms mattress into the garage and underneath your scooter I could pretty well get along with a beach towel if I were your wife. ;D
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Should add the beach towel was brand new. ;D
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Should add the beach towel was brand new. ;D
Ohhh. Bad idea.
(BTW, when I purchased the exercise mat at Dick's - the cheery sales girl smiled & said "Have fun with those sit-ups!" as I was leaving.
I laughed all the way to the car!)
Stig
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Excellent, Stig! You are the one to rewrite the service manual!
Karl
No, really - Cyclepedia has such nice color photos of the LIKE200i that it gives you a good idea how to go about things. I use their printed manual (photos less good) to keep things straight in my head...& keeps my donut off the garage floor. If you're going to be down there a long time --- a roll of toilet paper is a good pillow & saves a stiff neck.
Cyclepedia does often suggest that 25% more stuff needs to come off -- than is a reality. Since they're not paying me by the hour - I look for short-cuts.
I do wish KYMCO would give the dealer a book of service times -- rather than leaving things up to a tech. who may never have worked on a LIKE200i.
Stig
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Do all the Kymco Likes have dual rear suspension? The through axle would make a trailer hitch easier than on the Agility.
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Do all the Kymco Likes have dual rear suspension? The through axle would make a trailer hitch easier than on the Agility.
Don't know about the 2nd gen LIKE150i's , but the 1st gen LIKE's are the same as this.
Major Tom
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As said last time there was some wait for spareparts, which l got incredibely fast acounting italian mode.
Well, just for you maybe to compare prices over here.
I bought;
-1 brake disc BREMBO INOX €50,-
-1 set of brake pads ital brand €27,-
-1 bearing FAG 6203 C 2 HRS €11,-
-1 tire GOODRIDE €27,-
it took me today from 1000 until 1500 hrs
inclusice a bycicle ride to a tire shop to change
balancing and disposal of old to new for €15,-
Disasambling went thanks to Stigs pics pretty fast and without any complications.
Heat and freeze method to get the bearing out and in again worked like a charm, heating for a while with a heatgun, then a light tap with a piece of wood and small hammer, out it fell the old one, which was not bad at all but, would be weird not to change it now.
Meantime, the bearing froze, l heated on and on, went for the bearing and just let it drop in.
Snapring in again, cool down by itself.
TBC
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Rear brake, tire, bearing 2
BREMBO disc fitted 100 % what l expected from this brand.
Since l had her already in the workshop l enlarged the sidestand pad a little bit, 'cause sometimes when l parked at soft ground it sank and nearly dropped.
My test ride after this entertaining morning and half afternoon brought me to Grado where l had to take gelato. All well, running without any trouble.
Regards from Italy, Ruffus
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Nice job Ruffus!
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Stig
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Good days work. Nice job Ruffus.
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