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Kymco News / Re: Stig's Traditional Christmas eve ride
« on: December 26, 2016, 03:57:45 PM »
Sorry to rub it in, so to speak, but my Christmas Eve ride here in N. Florida, was 74 degrees. Actually wore the Hi-Viz MESH jacket.
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Kymco News / Re: How'd you learn to ride a motorcycle?
« on: December 26, 2016, 03:54:37 PM »
OK, I know I'm an old fart, but growing in the 50's my neighbor 2 houses down raced dirt track. Every time he fired the bike up was like a siren call to me. I ran over to watch him tune and tinker. Best part was letting me sit on it. I remember to this day his words of wisdom to me about the Murphys Law of Motorcycle Riding: the one piece of protective gear you fail to wear will be the one part of your body that will be injured! At age 11 I found a minibike that wasn't running and was thrown away. Well, within a day (with the help of my racer neighbor) it was running. Within 2 days it was gone. My parents were anti- motorcycle, and my Dad sold it when I was in school. Not to be deterred in my teens I rode a lot of my buddies bikes. And at one point had my own, but kept it at a friends house. I almost got caught by my parents a few times when I was riding it because of being a small town and not many roads. I moved out of the house at 18 and have had many, many bike since then. Still makes me smile inside when I'm riding....
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LIKE 200i / Re: Almost at wits end trying to start 2014 200i 'project'. Any ideas??
« on: December 25, 2016, 04:01:35 PM »
big blue- of course I had to get the whole unit. But at least now I'm on the road riding it.
* I just wonder that if he would have realized it was just the switch being loose in the first place, so much aggravation and cost could have been avoided.
Thanks everyone for all the help
* I just wonder that if he would have realized it was just the switch being loose in the first place, so much aggravation and cost could have been avoided.
Thanks everyone for all the help
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LIKE 200i / Re: Almost at wits end trying to start 2014 200i 'project'. Any ideas??
« on: December 23, 2016, 04:39:30 PM »
**UPDATE**
Hooray!!!..... on the road and running!!
Sorry it took so long to post the update. It was the ECU!!! I also had talked to the previous owner about the Like to maybe get some history / information.
The problems were that the son of the P.O. had tinkered with some things to try and start it. It seems when he went to replace a bent lever, he had unplugged the kill switch partly. #1 problem (and fixed). He apparently had heard to tap the ECU from somewhere, and didn't tap, but hit, and damaged it. (#2 problem fixed by replacement).
The fuel pump was OK, so, the Yamaha replacement is working A OK.
Thanks to all who offered advice and helpful tips!
Merry Christmas to all!
Hooray!!!..... on the road and running!!
Sorry it took so long to post the update. It was the ECU!!! I also had talked to the previous owner about the Like to maybe get some history / information.
The problems were that the son of the P.O. had tinkered with some things to try and start it. It seems when he went to replace a bent lever, he had unplugged the kill switch partly. #1 problem (and fixed). He apparently had heard to tap the ECU from somewhere, and didn't tap, but hit, and damaged it. (#2 problem fixed by replacement).
The fuel pump was OK, so, the Yamaha replacement is working A OK.
Thanks to all who offered advice and helpful tips!
Merry Christmas to all!
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LIKE 200i / Re: Almost at wits end trying to start 2014 200i 'project'. Any ideas??
« on: November 23, 2016, 05:02:20 PM »
Well, just got the results of the diagnostics check.
It seems that somehow a switch that is behind the handle bars got disconnected. It controls input to the ECU, which in turns controls the CLEEP lights and system.
They also had diagnosed the fuel system and fuel pump as the non-start, non running problem. They confirmed what Vespbretta mentioned about the built in pressure regulator is needed for the system to start and run.
So, I will be replacing the fuel pump again with a Kymco pump assembly, and see how that goes.
Sorry to say about the aftermarket Yamaha pump not working on this particular Like 200i.
Will keep everyone posted after I install the pump.
It seems that somehow a switch that is behind the handle bars got disconnected. It controls input to the ECU, which in turns controls the CLEEP lights and system.
They also had diagnosed the fuel system and fuel pump as the non-start, non running problem. They confirmed what Vespbretta mentioned about the built in pressure regulator is needed for the system to start and run.
So, I will be replacing the fuel pump again with a Kymco pump assembly, and see how that goes.
Sorry to say about the aftermarket Yamaha pump not working on this particular Like 200i.
Will keep everyone posted after I install the pump.
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LIKE 200i / Re: Almost at wits end trying to start 2014 200i 'project'. Any ideas??
« on: November 15, 2016, 08:27:50 PM »
UPDATE
Well, at this point I took it to a Kymco dealer (not the local one), and waiting to hear back about the diagnostic test ($40).
I will post when I hear something.
And, thanks to all who have offered tips and advice.
Well, at this point I took it to a Kymco dealer (not the local one), and waiting to hear back about the diagnostic test ($40).
I will post when I hear something.
And, thanks to all who have offered tips and advice.
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LIKE 200i / Re: Almost at wits end trying to start 2014 200i 'project'. Any ideas??
« on: November 09, 2016, 04:07:16 PM »
Thanks for all the help on this. And, support!
I agree that there must be a problem so that the CELP light is not working properly. And trying to find out a way to reset that system. Have done all the other resets.
I have the manual to reference too!
I have checked out all the tips posted. And everything seems to be OK! grounding wires, canister, etc.
So, tomorrow I am checking on 2 shops that repair Kymcos and see if they have a Diagnostic Tool and what will be the cost to have a check done.
Will keep everyone posted.
I agree that there must be a problem so that the CELP light is not working properly. And trying to find out a way to reset that system. Have done all the other resets.
I have the manual to reference too!
I have checked out all the tips posted. And everything seems to be OK! grounding wires, canister, etc.
So, tomorrow I am checking on 2 shops that repair Kymcos and see if they have a Diagnostic Tool and what will be the cost to have a check done.
Will keep everyone posted.
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LIKE 200i / Re: Almost at wits end trying to start 2014 200i 'project'. Any ideas??
« on: November 07, 2016, 03:19:12 PM »
Thanks Stig for the input help.
It is a 2014 with 702 miles. Dealer serviced at 500 miles by previous owner. She had a minor crash, fall over which scared her and hence it sat for over a year.
Checked the electrics, all the lights work OK including brake lights.
What is confusing to me was after a fresh battery was installed the CELP worked as should: on for 2 secs then off. The fuel pump was not working at that point, so it was replaced with a new pump (yamaha pump from eBay), also new iridium spark plug. Now the fuel pump pumps continuously and does not shut off like the other Likes. CELP light does not go on at all when switched to ON. When starter button is pushed, engine turns over fine, CELP is blinking 1 time very few seconds at that point, engine will fire sometimes and run for about 5 seconds then dies like fuel starved. Even tried running with loose gas cap. Old pump screen looked varnished from old gas, so tank was cleaned and fresh gas put in. Fuel pump relay checked with one from other Like. I checked the resistance of the fuel injector and it was on the high side: 15 ohms vs 11.7 in the manual. All intakes were checked and did not need tightening.
How do you check the ECU? Could it be the tip-over switch malfunction? How to reset CELP system?
I don't want to replace too many parts, especially if they are not needed.
I am trying to find anyone nearby that has a Kymco Diagnostic Tool without spending $350 on eBay for one.
Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks.
It is a 2014 with 702 miles. Dealer serviced at 500 miles by previous owner. She had a minor crash, fall over which scared her and hence it sat for over a year.
Checked the electrics, all the lights work OK including brake lights.
What is confusing to me was after a fresh battery was installed the CELP worked as should: on for 2 secs then off. The fuel pump was not working at that point, so it was replaced with a new pump (yamaha pump from eBay), also new iridium spark plug. Now the fuel pump pumps continuously and does not shut off like the other Likes. CELP light does not go on at all when switched to ON. When starter button is pushed, engine turns over fine, CELP is blinking 1 time very few seconds at that point, engine will fire sometimes and run for about 5 seconds then dies like fuel starved. Even tried running with loose gas cap. Old pump screen looked varnished from old gas, so tank was cleaned and fresh gas put in. Fuel pump relay checked with one from other Like. I checked the resistance of the fuel injector and it was on the high side: 15 ohms vs 11.7 in the manual. All intakes were checked and did not need tightening.
How do you check the ECU? Could it be the tip-over switch malfunction? How to reset CELP system?
I don't want to replace too many parts, especially if they are not needed.
I am trying to find anyone nearby that has a Kymco Diagnostic Tool without spending $350 on eBay for one.
Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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LIKE 200i / Re: Almost at wits end trying to start 2014 200i 'project'. Any ideas??
« on: November 06, 2016, 02:45:36 PM »
Yes, I do have the manual. Printed and online. I also have a help 'ticket' into cyclopedia but haven't gotten a response yet.
I think this is why I am "almost at my wits end".
I am going to contact my local hackers, ahem, dealer and see if they have the Kymco analyzer and how much for the diagnostic test.
I think this is why I am "almost at my wits end".
I am going to contact my local hackers, ahem, dealer and see if they have the Kymco analyzer and how much for the diagnostic test.
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LIKE 200i / Almost at wits end trying to start 2014 200i 'project'. Any ideas??
« on: November 04, 2016, 07:00:55 PM »
Looking for forum help.
Been lurking for a little while on these forums. I have 2 running 200i (2013 red and 2014 blue and white LX) and picked up a non-running 2014 200i as a project. (can't get enough can we?)
So, I have read and tried all the advice on getting it to run with no luck at all. The battery was low when I got it, so, charged overnight.
It turns over, but won't run. The CELP code was 12 so I replaced the fuel pump (the eBay one in other forums).
Replaced battery, replaced spark plug(iridium), cleaned tank and put in fresh gas. Now the fuel pump runs continuously, checked the fuel pump relay with one from another same year 200i and is OK. It will sometimes start, run for about 5-10 seconds, then dies like fuel starved. The CLEP now does not come on for initialization, but gives 1 blink when turning over. Also checked the fuel injector and has a ohm reading of 14.8 instead of 11.7. Replace? Also I've done all the resets I have read about...
HELP!!! dealer here is a no-go-to.
Been lurking for a little while on these forums. I have 2 running 200i (2013 red and 2014 blue and white LX) and picked up a non-running 2014 200i as a project. (can't get enough can we?)
So, I have read and tried all the advice on getting it to run with no luck at all. The battery was low when I got it, so, charged overnight.
It turns over, but won't run. The CELP code was 12 so I replaced the fuel pump (the eBay one in other forums).
Replaced battery, replaced spark plug(iridium), cleaned tank and put in fresh gas. Now the fuel pump runs continuously, checked the fuel pump relay with one from another same year 200i and is OK. It will sometimes start, run for about 5-10 seconds, then dies like fuel starved. The CLEP now does not come on for initialization, but gives 1 blink when turning over. Also checked the fuel injector and has a ohm reading of 14.8 instead of 11.7. Replace? Also I've done all the resets I have read about...
HELP!!! dealer here is a no-go-to.
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Kymco News / Re: New Kymco Cafe racer?
« on: October 01, 2016, 01:59:19 PM »
I think I would have to have one of those too!
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