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Title: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: Nireen on September 09, 2017, 08:56:20 AM
I know you can buy those mits you put over the handles but I would like some kind of guard.  I have heated grips which helps amazingly but still a wind shield would be awesome I would think.  Also for the bottom part of my legs that to gets alot of wind.  Any ideas!?
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: Tromper on September 09, 2017, 10:51:14 AM
Maybe a Scooter Skirt, or armored over pants for the legs.
The windguard you describe exists in a variety of shapes sizes and price points.  Some have built on covers as well if ya poke around.
Here's a link that shows some of the range.  Poke around a bit you may find better prices and more exactly what you want.
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/10980440/d/motorcycle-handguards (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/10980440/d/motorcycle-handguards)  (No endorsement for this site, they were bought recently and I haven't used them since..)

On my wife's bike I have some off-roading handguards & sometimes cover them with some mitts of the over the handlebar type you describe (see the peak link below)

I bought those over the years before some of the nicer ones that are made to work together came to be.  If I were to do it over again I'd get the combo.

http://www.peakscooter.com/foulweather.html (http://www.peakscooter.com/foulweather.html) is the cheapest scooter skirts I've found.  I have a review for 'em around this site somewhere.

I bought the skirt and the cheaper apron.  I still have the apron since my wife uses it on occasion, but the HD didn't fit the skirt as well so I let it go with the S200.
I generally use my over-pants since they add a layer of protection as well.
Title: in cold weather
Post by: boo on September 09, 2017, 12:29:31 PM
I use this with gauntlets.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/ice1/blacksnowsuit7022_zps4b8f26c8.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/ice1/blacksnowsuit7022_zps4b8f26c8.jpg)

Update: Sorry for the picture problem. Photobucket is screwing up everything nowdays.
It was a snow suit. Cost $70. US.
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: Nireen on September 09, 2017, 08:54:25 PM
Wow like that scooter skirt!  never see these before!


Maybe a Scooter Skirt, or armored over pants for the legs.
The windguard you describe exists in a variety of shapes sizes and price points.  Some have built on covers as well if ya poke around.
Here's a link that shows some of the range.  Poke around a bit you may find better prices and more exactly what you want.
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/10980440/d/motorcycle-handguards (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/10980440/d/motorcycle-handguards)  (No endorsement for this site, they were bought recently and I haven't used them since..)

On my wife's bike I have some off-roading handguards & sometimes cover them with some mitts of the over the handlebar type you describe (see the peak link below)

I bought those over the years before some of the nicer ones that are made to work together came to be.  If I were to do it over again I'd get the combo.

http://www.peakscooter.com/foulweather.html (http://www.peakscooter.com/foulweather.html) is the cheapest scooter skirts I've found.  I have a review for 'em around this site somewhere.

I bought the skirt and the cheaper apron.  I still have the apron since my wife uses it on occasion, but the HD didn't fit the skirt as well so I let it go with the S200.
I generally use my over-pants since they add a layer of protection as well.
Title: Re: in cold weather
Post by: Nireen on September 09, 2017, 08:54:59 PM
link don't work for me :(

I use this with gauntlets.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/ice1/blacksnowsuit7022_zps4b8f26c8.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/ice1/blacksnowsuit7022_zps4b8f26c8.jpg)
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: Mr. Paul on September 09, 2017, 11:22:31 PM
Good scooter skirts;


http://www.tucanourbano.com/int/ (http://www.tucanourbano.com/int/)
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: kneeslider on September 10, 2017, 02:18:37 AM
Wow like that scooter skirt!  never see these before!
Those are everywhere on scooters in Europe.

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Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: Nireen on September 10, 2017, 10:40:10 AM
yay found one in Canada :)  http://www.scooterunderground.ca/products/accessories/Scooter_Skirts-.htm (http://www.scooterunderground.ca/products/accessories/Scooter_Skirts-.htm)
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on September 10, 2017, 10:41:31 AM
To keep legs warmer , I  add top layer of FroggTogg rain pants.
I use heated gloves under gauntlets.
Might try mitts this winter....gauntlets over heated gloves are very bulky;  worse - they certainly will depart my hands during on an 'off'.
Stig
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: Mr. Paul on September 10, 2017, 12:01:25 PM
yay found one in Canada :)  http://www.scooterunderground.ca/products/accessories/Scooter_Skirts-.htm (http://www.scooterunderground.ca/products/accessories/Scooter_Skirts-.htm)



Those may not work as well as you would like Kat because of the feet forward position of the Downtown. Stigs suggestion of the Frogg Togg pants really does help to knock the wind off of the legs.
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: Tromper on September 11, 2017, 07:49:44 AM
You'll have to poke around a bit but Termoscud is pretty much the bar on these, & they do have one for you.
Not the cheapest but it might well be the best.
http://www.tucanourbano.com/int/termoscudr-9091.html (http://www.tucanourbano.com/int/termoscudr-9091.html)

yay found one in Canada :)  http://www.scooterunderground.ca/products/accessories/Scooter_Skirts-.htm (http://www.scooterunderground.ca/products/accessories/Scooter_Skirts-.htm)
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: Nireen on September 11, 2017, 08:35:40 AM
NICE! 

You'll have to poke around a bit but Termoscud is pretty much the bar on these, & they do have one for you.
Not the cheapest but it might well be the best.
http://www.tucanourbano.com/int/termoscudr-9091.html (http://www.tucanourbano.com/int/termoscudr-9091.html)
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: Nireen on September 11, 2017, 08:38:27 AM
I like!  tell me though why these one's are they better than most other rain-suits? I like the boot covers I am seeing to here.   https://fortnine.ca/en/frogg-toggs?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIj7m1j92c1gIVilqGCh1BQgY8EAAYASAAEgLS2_D_BwE



Those may not work as well as you would like Kat because of the feet forward position of the Downtown. Stigs suggestion of the Frogg Togg pants really does help to knock the wind off of the legs.
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: Mr. Paul on September 11, 2017, 09:32:21 AM
I dont know if they are better than others or not. I do know they work. And they are generally cheaper.  ;) I like rain bibs more than rain pants. No gaps between the jacket and pants to let cold air or water in.
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: Tromper on September 11, 2017, 09:34:09 AM
Froggtoggs are pretty much all I've used when riding.  light breathable and store well.
Durability..I am due for a new set.  I've never used the boot covers though.  The SYM does OK for the most part and the burger has really good protection for my feet..that and wool socks.
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: ScooterWolf on September 11, 2017, 12:11:13 PM
I'm curious, how easy is it to store a rain apron under the seat? Or do you just keep it on the bike, even when it's parked?

- Wolf
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: Snorvey on September 11, 2017, 12:30:00 PM
I just took delivery of my leg protector today.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DryBoy-Vespa-and-Scooter-Waterproof-Leg-Cover-/152692969041?hash=item238d35ce51:g:zeUAAOSw2gxY3DCT (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DryBoy-Vespa-and-Scooter-Waterproof-Leg-Cover-/152692969041?hash=item238d35ce51:g:zeUAAOSw2gxY3DCT)

You just tie it around the waist using the velcro strap and then hook it around the inside of the fuel filler flap (that's the theory any way - if that doesn't work, I may have to think of something else).

It's only really for short journeys and probably only showerproof, but it'll do me. This morning though, it was hoofing it down with rain and the only thing that keeps you dry in the height if a Scottish summer is a decent pair of waterproof trousers (which I also keep under the seat)

ScooterWolf:

I'm curious, how easy is it to store a rain apron under the seat? Or do you just keep it on the bike, even when it's parked?

Mine came in a little bag of the same material as the apron. It's squishy and fits neatly into the forward helmet helmet compartment.
Title: on the subject of Frogg Toggs
Post by: boo on September 15, 2017, 02:06:02 PM
I have used them for years and really like them. They are water proof and block the wind very good.
I like to take my dog for walks on rainy days at the park. When it is raining, we have the park to ourselves. I wear something warm underneath and the Toggs over the top.
If you shop around, you can find a suit, top and bottom for about $40. US.
Frogg Toggs come in light and heavier weights. I like the light weight ones. They block the wind and rain and fold up easy.
Currently, I have a two piece suit, "light weight", and a "heavier weight" jacket.
I love Frogg Toggs. They don`t make you sweat like some rain suits.
Title: Re: on the subject of Frogg Toggs
Post by: Nireen on September 16, 2017, 10:06:46 AM
https://fortnine.ca/en/catalogsearch/result/?q=Toggs+rainsuit

I have used them for years and really like them. They are water proof and block the wind very good.
I like to take my dog for walks on rainy days at the park. When it is raining, we have the park to ourselves. I wear something warm underneath and the Toggs over the top.
If you shop around, you can find a suit, top and bottom for about $40. US.
Frogg Toggs come in light and heavier weights. I like the light weight ones. They block the wind and rain and fold up easy.
Currently, I have a two piece suit, "light weight", and a "heavier weight" jacket.
I love Frogg Toggs. They don`t make you sweat like some rain suits.
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: de dee on September 17, 2017, 01:07:24 AM

  reading the add. from scooter under-ground about the knee cover,  it is for in town riding as it blows around at speed  so if your on the highway wet togs suit it is ,
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: Nireen on September 17, 2017, 05:32:25 AM
Yeah I agree with ya.  I just got in my Nelson Riggs boot covers!  I think this is all I need. I usually only am uncomfortable at the bottom of my legs where the wind gets in around the boot.  This should do it!

  reading the add. from scooter under-ground about the knee cover,  it is for in town riding as it blows around at speed  so if your on the highway wet togs suit it is ,
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: DiscoPotato on October 03, 2017, 08:21:10 AM
I know you can buy those mits you put over the handles but I would like some kind of guard.  I have heated grips which helps amazingly but still a wind shield would be awesome I would think.  Also for the bottom part of my legs that to gets alot of wind.  Any ideas!?

Hey Kat, I had a post here somewhere showing my set up. The Termoscud is the best option in my opinion to keep your legs warm and dry, forget getting special motorcycle pants! After a while you will not like putting them on and taking them off when you get to/leave your destination. With the Termoscud and hand guards you can wear your regular riding jacket, gloves, and helmet and be covered all year long. The hand guard I use is called Barkbuster's Blizzard hand guards, they keep the wind and rain off of my hands and make the heated grips work that much better. This combo has worked so well to keep me comfy that I ended up selling my car :)
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on October 05, 2017, 10:32:42 AM

Boo,
One question : Does pooch get to vote on these walks in the rain?!
:-)
Yep, I like my FroggToggs, too.
My pup and I have matching sweaters for our daily walks....
So far this hasn't impressed any young female joggers....not that Lilly would ever let me near one.
Stig
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: ole two wheels on October 05, 2017, 03:10:22 PM
Just what I need Snorvey. Since I already have my grill on board, with this apron, all I will need is the burgers and a flipper. How cool..........
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: Snorvey on October 05, 2017, 03:18:50 PM
Big.....Mac!

Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: ole two wheels on October 06, 2017, 02:23:47 AM
Does anyone know if there is anything like a heated jump suit that would not overload a bike's electrical system? My beamer had heated grips, and heated seats. They were nice, but didn't do much for the rest of the body, but a heated suit with a quick disconnect might do the trick,hey
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: Snorvey on October 06, 2017, 06:56:46 AM
I've always thought that there must be something you could do with the waste heat from the engine to warm the rider in the coldest months

Maybe it'll be my Dragon's Den moment!
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: Tromper on October 06, 2017, 07:37:22 AM
Weeellll Snorvy,

The most effective one I've seen to date I can't find the pic of anymore it appears to have been censored by some toad, but take it with some imagination and a grain of sale.
It was on a burgman 400, a fellah had run a snorkle from the center hump to his crotch area.  I'm honestly not sure if he was using the engine waste heat directly or had setup a radiator system setup to push the heat further forward.  I vaguely recall there was some plumbing under the hump as well.
Whereas his system was a bit pointed, if you combined something like that with a scooter skirt of some kind and a more general airway than his rather specific one (I have no doubt his worked.) you might well have something.
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: Snorvey on October 06, 2017, 08:16:34 AM
Weeellll Snorvy,

The most effective one I've seen to date I can't find the pic of anymore it appears to have been censored by some toad, but take it with some imagination and a grain of sale.
It was on a burgman 400, a fellah had run a snorkle from the center hump to his crotch area.  I'm honestly not sure if he was using the engine waste heat directly or had setup a radiator system setup to push the heat further forward.  I vaguely recall there was some plumbing under the hump as well.
Whereas his system was a bit pointed, if you combined something like that with a scooter skirt of some kind and a more general airway than his rather specific one (I have no doubt his worked.) you might well have something.

I better get myself down to the patent office!

Scavenging the waste heat directly would be the most simple way of course, but I had seen ideas (on a car) that used the waste heat from the exhaust to drive a Stirling Engine. The electricity from that powered the air conditioning inside the vehicle.
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: ole two wheels on October 06, 2017, 04:33:07 PM
That's all the heat the VW had in it's early years. I read once, some years ago about a concept somebody was working on, that involved a jump suit that had a web of tubes thru-out with a substance that reacted to hot water . Had a quick release connector down on the right leg that attached to an outlet in the engine water jacket. The hot water did not circulate thru the suit, but caused what ever was in the tubes to heat. Something like how fiber optics works. It was on a Gold Wing site. Never heard anymore about it, so I guess it didn't work>>I guess, blocking as much wind, as you can and layering up is the only way to go??
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: de dee on October 06, 2017, 05:13:45 PM
back in the 50 s   I seen suits made for high Gees for jet AC.   they used air preasure,  how long do those hand warmers last ,the onesw you wrinkle and it gets warm,.
Title: Re: Protection from wind on legs and hands??
Post by: Snorvey on October 06, 2017, 05:19:40 PM
A friend who had one of those BMW GS round the world type bikes had a plug in heated waistcoat worn under your normal bike gear - I suspect the Beemer might have an electrical system designed for lots of overpriced BMW accessories though.

Alternatively, my mother has a battery heated bodywarmer. The lithium ion battery is rechargeable and good for 6 hours at the lowest setting and about 2 hours if set on toasty.