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Title: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: jdub0813 on June 09, 2017, 12:07:59 PM
Hello, I am new as I just bought a used 2014 UXV 700i.  Test riding I didn't notice these problems but I am experiencing the following.  If anyone has any insight on things I could look at or try to fix these problems I would really appreciate it.

1.) Speedometer not working.
 - I notice the RPM and everything else works (not sure on miles as I didn't ride it a mile I don't think)

2.) Pulling to the right.
 - The vehicle pulls pretty good to the right and I notice the front right tire is much more worn than the others.  I am not sure if this is causing the pulling or if maybe alignment or something is wrong causing it to pull and wear out the tire quicker.

Like I said any help would be greatly appreciate it.  I am some what handy and willing to figure things out and work on it myself.  So please let me know your thoughts.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: airshot on June 09, 2017, 02:46:39 PM
   If your going to work on this machine you need to get a service manual for it. Go to "cyclepedia.com" they have online manuals or printed copies. Speedo is probably a loose wire of sensor, check wheel bearing on front wheels. Wrote an article on aligning the front of your machine in these forums with just a straight edge.
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: jdub0813 on June 09, 2017, 04:53:33 PM
Thank you for your response.  I will look for a loose connection, and as far as the shop manual, one is already purchased and hopefully on its way soon.  I always purchase shop manuals for all my vehicles.

I will look for your post regarding the alignment.  Do you think that could be the problem?  I guess couldn't hurt to check especially with uneven wear.  Also going to check tire pressure.  Thank you again!
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: airshot on June 10, 2017, 01:00:53 AM
    While working on it do check everything and I mean everything.....glad to see you bought the manual, it will save you a hundred questions later.  Keep us posted on what you find......
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: Redk on June 10, 2017, 04:16:25 AM
Well I just typed in a paragraph on how to improve alignment probs for a 2 wheeler...  lol
Not called for here.  Oh well.
redk
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: airshot on June 10, 2017, 02:59:11 PM
Well I just typed in a paragraph on how to improve alignment probs for a 2 wheeler...  lol
Not called for here.  Oh well.
redk

There is NO alignment to be done on a two wheeler!!
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: randyo on June 10, 2017, 08:59:53 PM
There is NO alignment to be done on a two wheeler!!


not much experience with 2 wheelers eh!   wheel alignment is just as important, maybe more important on a mototcycle
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: airshot on June 10, 2017, 10:40:53 PM

not much experience with 2 wheelers eh!   wheel alignment is just as important, maybe more important on a mototcycle

I could see a handle bar alignment but aligning a front and rear tire/wheel???
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: randyo on June 11, 2017, 02:26:36 AM
I could see a handle bar alignment but aligning a front and rear tire/wheel???

rear wheel is most important, with misaligned rear wheel, chain & sprockets will wear and cause chain failure, (on Harleys, belt failure) you can't count on the alignment marks on the swingarm to be a remotely accurate way to align the rear wheel, the straightedge method is the most common way to accurately align the wheel
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: airshot on June 11, 2017, 02:59:38 AM
    I see your point, I stand corrected.  Never thought about motorcycles as this is an offroad forum.
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: randyo on June 11, 2017, 10:13:53 AM
    I see your point, I stand corrected.  Never thought about motorcycles as this is an offroad forum.

your limiting your perspective to your perceived uses. I know a lot of people that only ride dirtbikes, and fwiw, my 450i is primarily a street vehicle, so much so that I just ordered street tires (should arrive tomorrow), pavement wears oof road tires unbelievably fast. I plan on buying another set of wheels to mount off road tires, it will be my 3rd set of wheels for my 450i, one set with street tires, one set that I have with Trygg chains mounted over offroad tires (the chains are such a pain to put on, that I don't want to take them off) About 90% of my use is street (of that about 50/50 paved/gravel roads )

Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: jdub0813 on June 12, 2017, 06:54:45 PM
Well I realigned the front end, seemed to help and ordered new tires so should be set there.

As far as the speedometer and odometer not working, well I am still in a pickle.
I checked to see if I could find any loose wires and just looking under the front hood I didn't see anything. I don't have the shop manual yet so don't have much help there.  Can anyone give me some places to look and if it's possibly the sensor, know where I can get one or will I need to go through a dealer?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: airshot on June 13, 2017, 01:31:56 AM
     I have not been able to locate any factory parts without going thru a dealer, however the Kymco parts seem to be reasonably priced when compared to other mfgrs prices.  I just ordered a new skid plate (cut a hole in original for plow mount) and some seat grommets, parts came in in a week. Kymco has an online microfish for parts, you will need the complete part number for the dealer to order, this site also gives you the cost of the parts so you know if your dealer tries to rip you off.
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: jdub0813 on June 13, 2017, 02:33:19 AM
Ohh okay. I'll try and figure out the speedometer when my shop manual comes and I appreciate the info on parts. Hope it all goes well when I'm in need of parts, thanks!
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: jdub0813 on June 22, 2017, 04:56:40 PM
So I am not really seeing anything about where the speed sensor is.  And the wiring diagram has me a bit confused.  Anyone with a little insight to where I should be looking?
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: jdub0813 on June 26, 2017, 04:23:06 PM
Update - I found a connector that is just hanging near the front.  3 wire connector and according to the wiring diagram I think that could possible be for the speed sensor.  Now I just need to figure out where it is supposed to go and see if that's the problem...
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: airshot on June 27, 2017, 10:32:26 PM
     Just got back from a riding vacation with my 450i and also ran into a speedo problem....long story short....it happened whan I did some hard riding and the heat would build up.  After a short cooldown it started working again.  This happened a couple times during the 3 days but after cooling down it came back on. Only the speedo was affected, all other readings on the dash were ok.  Not sure if this pertains to your machine or not??
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: jdub0813 on June 28, 2017, 01:35:02 PM
That's a strange problem hmm but yeah mine has never worked, hot or cold. 

There is a connector (brown with a line, green, and violet which according to the wiring diagram is the speed sensor) and the connector has a black rubber casing around it.  It is just laying there hanging not connected to anything.  I am thinking this is the problem but I can't find anywhere to connect it or where it should be connected to.  It is a straight 3 prong connector type.

Do you have any clue maybe looking at yours under the hood where I should be connecting it?  Any help I would greatly appreciate it.

As for your riding vacation, that sounds awesome and hope it was fun and everything went well!  I need to go on one shortly.  Just fixing everything up on this as I bought it used and want to make sure everything is good prior to long rides.
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: airshot on June 28, 2017, 05:39:48 PM
    When I get a chance to tear into it I will let you know, I do know that when I installed my winch wires there were a number of empty wires not plugged into anything behind the dash. One such wire with a double plug was ignition switch activated and I used it for the winch, but it was connected to nothing and everything worked at that time. I can tell you that a street version of the 450i is available overseas and has all the turn signals etc included for street use so I am assuming some of those loose wires pertain to the other versions of this machine.  As you may have seen the turf model and the generator model for sale over here as well. I am sure just one wiring harness is used so some models use certain wires and others use different wires.
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: jdub0813 on June 28, 2017, 05:44:29 PM
Yeah and I see a few others hanging there and I am guessing like you said it's for other things.  I do have a wench, I wonder if they unplugged the speed sensor for it or accidentally?  The reason I think that's what it is, is only because looking at the wiring diagram the speed sensor is like the only one with 3 wires of green, brown with a line and some purple or gray (marked with a V in the diagram).

If you could just let me know if it's not too much to ask, and it it's somewhat simple for you to do, I would really appreciate it.  This has been bothering me and I don't want to have to take it to a dealer.  I am trying to do all my own work as I do with most of my stuff.
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: airshot on June 28, 2017, 10:40:47 PM
    Ok went out and popped the hood and found an oval grey shaped plug with 3 wires including a purple and a green that plugs into another plug attached to a crossmember up and behind the storage box. I have attached a pic if I can get it to load. Only plug I see with 3 wires.
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: jdub0813 on June 29, 2017, 12:44:00 PM
I appreciate it thank you, I will have to take a look at mine and see if it's similar or if it's supposed to be.  I am hoping to get this taken care of soon, thank you!
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: airshot on June 29, 2017, 03:14:46 PM
   The plug I was referring to is at the lower left edge of pic. Originally it was centered and showed the colors well but had to resize it so the plug moved to the lower left. Should be an obvious plug to mate right there on that support, and yes I agree it looks like what is showed in the wiring diagram in the manual.
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: jdub0813 on June 29, 2017, 03:27:42 PM
Yeah that could very well be it, wish me luck! Thanks again :)
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: jdub0813 on June 29, 2017, 03:38:12 PM
Do you happen to know if the 3rd color was brown with a line in it?  If so I am 90% sure that's it maybe even 95%.
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: jdub0813 on June 29, 2017, 10:10:38 PM
Nope that wasn't it mine was attached.  The passenger side is where I found mine hanging.

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Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: airshot on June 30, 2017, 12:39:47 AM
    Ok will have to look in there again to see what I can find.
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: monmendoza on August 05, 2017, 06:11:34 PM
Well I realigned the front end, seemed to help and ordered new tires so should be set there.

As far as the speedometer and odometer not working, well I am still in a pickle.
I checked to see if I could find any loose wires and just looking under the front hood I didn't see anything. I don't have the shop manual yet so don't have much help there.  Can anyone give me some places to look and if it's possibly the sensor, know where I can get one or will I need to go through a dealer?

Thanks!

Open the seat. Near the passenger side In the engine bay, there is a connector that connects to the speedometer, check if it is connected or if its connect and reconnect. I bought mine a demo unit and dealers usually disconnect the odometer , speedometer so that the extra miles won't show up. :)
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: airshot on August 06, 2017, 12:23:02 AM
Open the seat. Near the passenger side In the engine bay, there is a connector that connects to the speedometer, check if it is connected or if its connect and reconnect. I bought mine a demo unit and dealers usually disconnect the odometer , speedometer so that the extra miles won't show up. :)

Well now isn't that kinda sneaky for the crooked dealers !!  Do you have a pic of this connector as I see a couple different connectors in that area. I would like to disconnect/grease/reconnect mine to see if that helps the issue of loosing the speedo when it gets real hot.
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: jew8201 on August 06, 2017, 12:10:51 PM
I love this Forum! I learn so much about my machine reading from you guys post on here! Thankfully I have. It had any of the problems of which you speak of with the speedometer. I really need to get a shop manual to have on hand though. I did have a winch problem though...so for the last couple months the unit was dead when I would go to start it. Having to jump it off every time, finally I was like what the heck is wrong with this thing! Well long story short the main wires coming off the winch were not properly ran and tie wrapped out of the way. Well some how they had gotten wrapped around the front drive shaft so tight that it had ripped the wires into severing the wires and ripped the contractor/silinoid off too as it was laying lose down in there. Those broken wires were killing the battery. New wires and silinoid and everything is good to go now. Boy was I pissed though when I found that mess underneath the machine. Poor dealer work installing the winch caused me time and money. Granite they said they'd take care of it to bring it in. But for the cost of fuel to drive three hours there I just did it myself.

Oh also I put a new battery in it from O'Reilly auto. Super start extreme power sports AGM part #ETX20L   310 cold cranking amps vs the stock 270. Very nice battery. 105 bucks from O'Reilly.
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: airshot on August 06, 2017, 03:49:12 PM
    I totally understand your wanting to do it yourself to make sure it gets done correctly, however, by returning it to the dealer would have learned them a lesson and also help to continue your warranty. Now they might have an excuse if anything else were to go wrong as you fixed it yourself.  Hopefully you took some pictures and documented the problem just in case a future reference is needed.  In regards to the factory service manual, go to "cyclepedia.com" and get the online version of the manual, I think it was 50 bucks for a lifetime access to the manual. Nice part is they have a question area where you can trouble shoot if a problem occurs at no extra cost. I have had no issues with them but also purchased a hard copy of the manual as well. I did start printing pages off the online version as I needed them and started a notebook, but then just said screw it and bought the hard copy. I have a similar manual for my boat, an online version that I ust print whatever pages I need when the time comes and keep them in a folder....very handy!!
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: monmendoza on August 07, 2017, 03:03:03 PM
Well now isn't that kinda sneaky for the crooked dealers !!  Do you have a pic of this connector as I see a couple different connectors in that area. I would like to disconnect/grease/reconnect mine to see if that helps the issue of loosing the speedo when it gets real hot.

My kymco is in my farm. I will be going to my farm on august 19/20. I will get a picture by then if you still need it. :)
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: jdub0813 on August 09, 2017, 01:00:53 PM
Open the seat. Near the passenger side In the engine bay, there is a connector that connects to the speedometer, check if it is connected or if its connect and reconnect. I bought mine a demo unit and dealers usually disconnect the odometer , speedometer so that the extra miles won't show up. :)

OMG so glad you mentioned that.  I am going to take a look at it as soon as I get home today.  I feel I know where the connector is as the colors seem to match for the speed sensor wire (to the diagram), I just couldn't find where it connects to.  Never looked under the passenger seat.... I so hope that is it, my hopes are up lol.  Thank you!
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: jdub0813 on August 10, 2017, 11:59:02 AM
My kymco is in my farm. I will be going to my farm on august 19/20. I will get a picture by then if you still need it. :)

Is this what you were talking about?

Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: jdub0813 on August 21, 2017, 05:02:28 PM
My kymco is in my farm. I will be going to my farm on august 19/20. I will get a picture by then if you still need it. :)

Wondering if you got a picture, and is it the same as the one I posted above?
Title: Re: Speedometer not working and pulls to right with right font tire wear
Post by: jdub0813 on April 18, 2018, 04:26:33 PM
Anyone any help with this issue?  I still haven't been able to figure it out :(