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Scooters - 50cc => People 50 => Topic started by: wordslinger on June 10, 2010, 10:37:23 PM
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..just bought me an '01 people 50 2-stroke!!!!
;D :D :) :D ;D
..7500km..
..$500......
..WOO FRIKIN' HOOO!!!...
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Great find ! Put a ngk iridium plug in it and enjoy . Good luck .
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..thanx man, but it does need a little work...
..it's been in storage for 2 years, and i haven't heard it run yet...
..however, i do know a little of it's history, and saw it running about 6 years ago...
..don't think it was a terrible deal considering it's general condition, and the fact that it is what it is...
..a kymco with less than 7500 km...
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SCORE!!!!! Now you can join the ranks of your fellow 2-stroke riders! ;D
I wish I could find a deal like that! Have fun, I'm sure we'll hear all about it!
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...i saw it yesterday, but i cldnt stop...was late for an appt...
..just KNEW it wasn't gonna be there this evening...BUT IT WAS!!!!
..wanted 525 for it, i offered 400...said he'd take no less than 500...
..gave him 60 to hold it till next week, got me a receipt...
..gotta work me some killer OT this weekend....
..aaannnd i know the guy, vaguely..we know the same ppl...
..so itsa done deal!!
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Way to go Word! Except for the seat, it looks just like my 150.
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..thanx man!!
..i'm ready to learn all about thes 2Ts now....
;D
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Mised Your thread.Total steal paid $600 for my 2002 and $700 for my 2005.I can't believe they don't hold there value,people just don't know what they got I guess.Can't wait to see it shine and the grin on your face!
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..th man has no clue what he has...what it will do...he just don't need it any more....
...he's just spring cleaning, so to speak...
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...i'm just gonna get it running at first, dependably, so i can ride it while i put the kit on my A50....
..then, after i get that one respectfully carrying my ass up some of these hills, i'm gonna tear into the ppl...
..gonna learn about ports and squish and all that 2-stroke crap...
:o ;D
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Nice!If going with the stock jug we took 40 thousandths of the head that made me have to go from an #85 main to a #105 Just to run with pod.Fuel intake ports are pretty much open already,exaust is the bottleneck.Still waiting on machinest.Going to try to run stock carb at first if at all possible(sorta stock)Cheers!
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Slinger, You are a dog! That is the same engine as the super fever. You will be doing 60mph in no time. (for just under $1000.00) Malossi jug, 0.50mm off the malossi head, rs II pipe, 20-28 mm carb, and the cvt. Congrats Bro!
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...no sh**!!..same engine!!!
..coool........
..imma get my a50 upgraded before i get into the people...
..it has less than 7500 km...got plenty of time to work with it...
..wish i had started upgrading my a50 back then...
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The hard part is figuring which one to scoot!
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The hard part is figuring which one to scoot!
..lol, yeah i'll be a 2 scooter family...
..my plan is to learn to build a 4-stroke, then learn all i can about the 2-stroke...
..THEN i will seriously be thinking about the scooter garage...
..i can't even start to go there with no 2-stroke knowledge...
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You do what you know, and the rest will develop. Look at it as an air pump, the rest becomes easier
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Hey, Wordslinger, you have been quiet for a while now, I realise you have been busy with repairs but how did you go with the people 50?
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...just brought it home about 15 minutes ago!!!...
...gonna drain the fuel, and i guess imma get my first ever look inside the two-stroke carb....
...YYAAAYYYYY!!!!!!
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Yayyy!Your going to like it!No timing valves cam chains and raw power!Ha!Is it running yet!
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Bonza mate! Now you have yourself a little screamer. :)
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..i got spark...won't kick start...no starter motor..plug gets wet...getting fuel...
..taking the starter off the a50 now..gonna give that a try...
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...FIRED!!!!...engine sound awesome..however...
..smokes like a freight train!!!...shut it down...cant fire it again...plug is solid black and wet....
..is it fouled??
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Smoke is nomarl to some extent the autochoke takes a bit to settle down if fires again let it worm up. Might be a bit of moisture in the mix and who knows whats in the pipe,buy a hand full of plugs ;D
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...now i'm not getting a spark...wtf...
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Back to basics plug cap and such,kill switch disasemble and clean.There is a fuse in the glove box check that
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...yeah...i'm getting ahead of myself...
..it's just that i was stoked!!..when it fired right up with the starter...smoked, but sounded great...gotta get the starter back on the A50 for the morning ride to work....
..hope it makes it...
..was hoping to ride the people.....
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Fingers crossed I haven,t had much trouble with this model they can be a pain after sitting though.You do have to pull brake to use the starter
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..yeah, it won't spark even with the kick-starter....it was before....
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synthetic 2 stroke oil dosn't smoke nearly as bad . Good luck . Keep us posted !
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..it's been in storage for nearly 3 years....i expected some smoke...but this was a full-bore plume...got rid of the mosquitos for a good long while tho...lol...
..then i just shut it off...will not spark since...got 3 new "Autolite" NGK equivalent plugs...
..hopefully it's just a connection or a switch....fuse is good...
..not gonna mess with it much more tonite, except for charging the battery, as it started to drag toward the end...
..gettin plenty of fuel..the airbox got drenched...
..that little engine really turned up quick!!!
..think imma like this ppl once i get'r runnin'.....
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Sounds like a wire came loose somewhere deffenetly check that fuse.Some times just an unplug and clean will do on the conectors.
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You will be impressed once running.I'm an old dirt bike guy and this little engine got me stocked!
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..yeah, i've already seen a ppl smoke the rear tire, and pop wheelies....
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Ha!I set mine up more for top but it would easily smoke the tires and bring the front up at the same time if i wanted to set it that way.
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...yeah, this guy did it cause i didn't think it would...
..he was in my dwi class...lol..and lived just a cpl blocks from there...
..wouldn't be too practical in the real world...
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So Far so good slinger
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...imma get it running today, after worrk...my guilty is struggling...gotta get it off the road..
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...tis thing is QUICK!!...scary quick at first...
..topped out at 48 mph indicated flat land on my first sort run...
..short run, because it smokes like a freight train still...
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Most likely it is full of hardened mineral 2t oil (the block) A few tanks of gas, and Sea Foam will remove it. It will be sure the rings are clear too.
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..i have oil coming out the exhaust pipe too...
..i have seafoam in the tank now, and i used the spray the other night, as directed on the can ...
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You can try burning the carbon from the pipe using the oxy. side of an accetelyne torch. Heat the pipe till red, and cut down the gas until you are running straight oxy. You have to be careful as not to melt the pipe, but it puts on one hell of a sparkler show.
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...okay...umm..what??
.is that what's causing oil to leak ftom the pipe???...
.. ??? ..
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Unburnt oil will collect inside the pipe. As carbon builds it will hold onto that oil. I took an exhaust from a jog engine, and put it on top of a burn barrel, till the whole thing was cherry red. In the morning the carbon was falling out. I painted it, and put it on my nc/ chopper. It must have weighed 8-10 pounds before, and maybe 6 lbs now. I saw instructions for the oxy burn somewhere, and will try to find it again. Anyway oil is a part of life w/ 2t's "Can't ride it too long or ya smell like a lawn mower" From throw a kit.
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...wow...i'm such a newb....
...NO OFFENSE NEWBIES!!...
..but i am...
..love the quickness of th scoot tho...
..haven't tried for top speed yet..all the smoke scared me...
..my a50 nevers mokes...at all....
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Smoke is good!Ha! your on your way,You may never want a 4t again!Got to burn those cob webs out and what ever else is in the pipe.
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..oh, imma build my 4t...
...(sorry joeboy)...
;D
..but i gotta be sure the ppl is gonna carry be on my 35 mile daily round trip before i tear into it...
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What's wrong with smelling like a lawnmower?
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...mowers...grass..weed(s)...
..it's all gooood...
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..so, first ride to work today..
..twas very enjoyable...the ppl runs a steady 45 mph indicated..
..flat, downhill, and most importantly, UPHILL too!!!
..downhill, i could drop back to less than half-throttle, and maintain the same speed...45...
..flat land, 2/3 throttle will maintain...45...
..uphill (on the same hills my a50 will drop at least 5mph) the ppl maintains a steady ...45...with some throttle left...
..so, i'm either looking at a cdi, or cvt issue here...from what i've read, there's nothing i can do to the cdi except replace it...anybody know anything different??
..i can deal with the cvt..pretty familiar with those processes..lol...
peace
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Yep, two stroke oil smoke -- GOOD. If you want it to smell really good, get some Bel-Ray. Not lawn mowerish. More of a mean screamin machine smell.
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Your cdi is under the front shield,should have the green wire comming out the bottom unplug and your derestricted,I liked the molossi best for the veriater,put a #85 main in and a 3/8 hole in the airbox at the front outer cover,should get you another 3 to 4 mph and a little better pick up.The stock 8.5 rollers will be good untill you do the pod and pipe.New you'd love it!
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..i've read that unplugging that green wire will cause the cdi to burn out...
???
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..so, i opened the cvt..the oem belt is the same length as the "stock" a50 belt...
..it ssays KYMCO 23100-KEB7-9000 BANDO...
..further observation shows that it has never ridden all the way up on the drive face..
..do i need a longer belt??
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Or heavier rollers? Would they put too short a belt on? unless it is another form of restriction, maybe to go with the stepped drive boss. That might explain the different belts for your A50?
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..i was expecting a longer belt....
..what gets my attention, is the steady 45mph indicated on the speedometer...
..like something is physically limiting top speed...
..belt length would be a likely suspect...
..if it's riding at the lowest limit of the driven pulleys, and can't get any higher on the drive pulleys...because it's too short....the scoot would run a steady top speed...
..yes??
..no??..
;D
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YES!! Go get that belt.
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..well, it just so happens, that i have a 748-18-28 kevlar belt on the guilty...it's @ 1/2 inch longer, if you hold the belts in the position they would ride on the pulleys during top speed...
..so, i put that belt, and the NCY variator, because i like the ramp of the ncy better than the OEM..
..the Malossi ramp looks better than the ncy, but it's shot...sloppy bushing fit.....tho.......nevermind...
..along with the OEM rollers (still in great condition), and a cpl of things happened..
..two good things, and one not so good...
..not so good was i now drop speed uphill...down to 35 mph, on a really steep incline, that dropped to 40 with the oem...
..one good thing, is that the engines rpms, which were really winding out, dropped to a more comfortable sounding level...
..the best good thing, is that downhill, i hit 60 mph indicated...
..nearly crapped my pants...gotta gps this speedometer, but it was most definately faster than i've ever run th' guilty...
..wwowww.... :o
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...so, now i'm thinking i should put the 1000 contra spring in th clutch to grab hold of that longer belt a bit better....
..keep in mind...i'm modding a stock setup..slightly......
..not sure about changing the fly springs, as i got pretty frickin' quick take-off still...might need them with the stiffer contra tho...
..what ya'll think??
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I think we got another 2-stroke convert lol . Have fun !
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I think we got another 2-stroke convert lol
..wow..yeah..probably so...
;D
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Depending on what top speed you want, you might be better off with the shorter belt, it seems to have the revs in the right range for hill climbing. Maybe you can replicate that with the stiffer spring/lighter rollers.
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..i believe the 1000 contra will work...and bring back the loss in flat-land speed.., and i bet if i go 1/2 gr lighter in roller wt...hhmmmm...
..but i'm pleased with the top speed...whatever it gps's at...
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60 mph downhill! That's awesome! Rock the 2T!!! ;D
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...that is 60 indicated...
..i aint verified the offset yet...
..but, yeah...it was a lot faster than my guilty..yup...
;D
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Try the 8g rollers.60 downhill Id say your derestricted.So your saying the stock belt is a little short.What does the 728-18-28 normaly go on,going to have to try that out,inching closer to that 100mph Ha!
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..that belt is what i bought for my A50....the stock a50 belt is the same length as what was on the ppl...
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I did some digging around the stock people belt is suposed to be a 748-18-28 was that what you ment to type or are my #'s wrong.A !/2 inch larger had me thinking about trying it out,or is that belt streached a bit.
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..yes...748....duh...
..went back and changed it in that other post...
.and no, not stretched...it's brand new...
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...i physically opened the driven face...squeezed the "oem" belt tight around the shaft...
..it would never ride to the top of the drive face of the variator...impossible to get there...too short...
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Ya I've noticed that the marks on my stock ver.had some room to run.the next 2 sizes up on the mallosi chart are 752-19-30 with a 9mm thickness 755-18-32 with an 8mm thickness.What do ya think.Will it work?
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..the 748 i have looks like it's maxed out....
..with the belt tight around the drive boss, it's at the edge of the driven pulley's faces..
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..do you have a 748??
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I dont have the measurment got the mallosi replacments in there now and had the bando stock 23100 keb7 9000 before
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..see if the belt you're running is the same, if you still have the oem belt...
..that 23100...is too short...
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I'll be back was going to throw some 9g in there any way,so what brand was the 748,accordin to bando the 23100 keb7 9000 is sapposed to be 748-18-28 ???
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..i saw a ppl just like ours today art...
..going in the opposite direction..
..i waved and stopped but he didnt...
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..i don't remember, i got it from Josh, when i got the NCY upgrade kit for my guilty..
...i'll look tho, as imma do some clutch swapping...
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His loss could have had him going 60 in no time.O.K. I think you have stumbled on to something here.The malossi replacment is a 61/11153 738/9/18/28 the next best match would be a 61/13501 743/9/18/30.I don't know how much difference the dagrees will make but the length should be good.The malossi side by side with the bando was even shorter!Now with the 9g roller and short belt I've got to be hitting damn near 70mph.now with anouther 3/8 to 1/2 taller gear this could get interesting!The nyc belt would be even a bit taller although I might be in danger of running it right out of the veriater ;D anybody deliver belts overnihght Ha! wish you were close We might be seeing some neww people top speeds. Just ordered the last one from provoscooters.Gates was the brand.
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..the downside is, there is a speed loss uphill...which i'm trying to tackle with a bit lighter rollers, and stiffer torque drive spring...
..what are the stock roller weights?
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Should be 8.5. a set of 8g should do.Of course a pipe and pod will eliminate all that ;D
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..so, i opened the cvt..the oem belt is the same length as the "stock" a50 belt...
..it ssays KYMCO 23100-KEB7-9000 BANDO...
..further observation shows that it has never ridden all the way up on the drive face..
..do i need a longer belt??
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I screwed up on the post The belt that was in the people is the wrong one It needs a 23100-KCX-9000 OR a Gates pl 20601 will fit. The gates # is a kevlar belt the same as the malossi. 23100-KEB7-9000 BANDO... is a shorter belt. I think that one is the 699 mm The oem belt is around 33 bucks, the gates is 39 bucks, and the Malossi is 50 bucks IF you can find one. The only difference I found so far is the gates is not as "sticky" as the Malossi, and does slip some when it is "cold".
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With regards to the shorter belt, would they fit those to go with the restricted drive boss. Since the variator is not going to close fully a longer belt is not needed?
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Ya if you order from malossi or oem for the people 50 they give you the 699 I know I've seen the kcx for another scoot,Do you remember the model?The restricted drive boss does make sence.Got the gates on order,we'll see what happens.
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Both of you guys are right. The KCX is for the People/AC super 9/ZX/Super Fever. The KEB7 fits the Agility, and some others. I learned toooo much about belts over the past weeks. Also the 669 is length... the 18.5 is width, and the 28.5 is the side wall angle.
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Got the gates put on today plus the dr slider clutch and bell.ran with the 9g little weak in the mid,but once up to speed could cruise at 40 with less than an 1/8 throttle at 1/4 throttle could cruise easly with the speedo peged 1" past the 50 mark and had a ton left its deffinatly running taller in the gears now.not enouph road here in the neighborhood,but could only pull my test hill at 40.Got to try the 8.5 next. I need me a gps!
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Good stuff Bro!
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It's almost incredible Ha!Getting ready for a trip for a week,I'll try to keep ya posted.Been modifying the subaru to bring a scoot with me,It's going to work!Yey!
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Got the gates put on today plus the dr slider clutch and bell.ran with the 9g little weak in the mid,but once up to speed could cruise at 40 with less than an 1/8 throttle at 1/4 throttle could cruise easly with the speedo peged 1" past the 50 mark and had a ton left its deffinatly running taller in the gears now.not enouph road here in the neighborhood,but could only pull my test hill at 40.Got to try the 8.5 next. I need me a gps!
...dude...i missed this post...i was away for a cpl days....
..SEE!!!!...the long belt is awesome...and my scoot seemed to have MUCH lower rpms at 60...than it did at 45-50 with the 23100.....seemed like it was breathing a lot easier...
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With the 9g I could get most of my gas milage back and I think i could be knocking on 80mph!Ha!If i could get the take off of a 8g and a top of the 9g It would be something.The 8.5 got me up the test hill about 4 mph quicker,but working harder when speedo is pegged.The dr slider has 2 sets of flys going to have to play with that a bit.Don't have time leaving tommarrow WITH SCOOT!
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..was that with a pipe too, or not....the 9 gr??
..cause they work awesome with my aluminum drive face, filter, ncy clutch and variator with the stock exhaust...
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I could get most of my gas milage back and I think i could be knocking on 80mph
..these things are frikin awesome...
..i know where there's a super9 lc for $650.00....
..i'm sssso wanting to get it...
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Ya got the rs2,It works pretty good but the mid seems to lag a bit,bottem and top are fine,just no grunt power mid,mine has been kinda like this since i started,I can get it at the expence of the top.But im shooting for 100mph ;D
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I think it's the tires,I could never go to a smaller tire again.Now for that suspension and forks Ha!L.c.would be nice though.
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..that mid range is where my ppl lacks with the long belt...
..but the pickup at take-off, then toward top end there's another pick-up...that's pretty cool...
8)
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..i don't see how th' f*ck you got bigger tires on there ??? ...
..they are so close to the shocks now....
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The front is like its made for it,I do have some rub on the rear gana fix when my dremmel gets here.Shave the shock mounts and a couple washers should do it
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Oh ya you got to remember you you have the old pipe,the newer ones 2005 and up suck,Or they don't blow ;D
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...oh..ok...there's that much difference??
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...so i got a goood pipe!!
..never hadda good pipe...
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I do have some rub on the rear gana fix when my dremmel gets here.
..where you gotta open up...
..the crankcase or the gearbox??...
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Oh ya!2005 and 2009 are dogs with the stock pipe and short belt Ha!the 2005 is a little more manageable,but the 2009 needs an aftrmarket or old pipe to get anything out of it!
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2005 and 2009 are dogs with the stock pipe and short belt
..woww..didnt know...
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I'm gonna attack the shock itself lot cheaper to replase if somthing don't work out,probably top and bottem.the top need the most adjustment
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I'm gonna attack the shock itself
..huh??
??? :o ;D :o ???
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Ha!me getting a buzz.Im going to shave the shock loopes a bit,then a couple washers to push them out away from the tire.I hope
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..have you looked for a replacement shock with thicker coils, but a smaller O.D. ??
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..i could make an...offset adapter, i bet...
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Not yet If i go that route looking for whole new system.they start at $250+ and look to have a larger coil.Have'nt looked at actual dimensions yet.Some more travel and a plush shock would be nice though.An upside down set up would be even better.Got to conserve a little cash for a bit before i get into that one.Maybe I can flip the stocker :P
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..i havent looked at how the top mounts, but i have a shock mount extender on my a50...a cpl of simple mods to it's design, and it could offset your shock...potentially as far as you needed it to be...
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Ya don't think it would take much.I havn't pulled it off and realy thought about it yet,but its comming.As is it's not much of a rub but noticable when the spring compresses it cleans about a 1/4" of the tire.
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Got a pic.I goto run I'll check back latter.
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...yup...
..click on th' pic...
;D
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O.K. so it raises the shock?Does it offset also? The top really needs to be pushed out on mine,but both would be great.After looking at it not alot i can do on the bottem of mine stock but the top I think is a loop and could be ground a bit.
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...imma check it out on mine...
..probly tomorrow...lol...
..i can make it offset..i got the drawings of that one...
..thicken the yokes, angle the offset with radius at each transition...for strength...
..would gain 1 inch in seat height and maybe 1/2 inch in offset...just from my visualizations...
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Ha I could go anouther tire size up!Sound interesting.cause i think the shock i'd like to run is even larger,I'm not there yet but it would be nice to have the room.
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..i gotta look at the top mount..the shock needs to remain in it's original plane...
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Let me know what ya think ganna be out of town for a bit but probably my next step on this bike when i get around to it.My friend in california has a gps an about a 2 mile streach of lonely road.Can't wait!
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...wow...
..take some pics!!!
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Here's a couple now check out my kymco blinkers on the carrier and my hot rod ;D
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...wow...that's cool as hell....
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Real sweet deal man! I had the same carrier on a lincoln town car a few years ago. I used to carry my '76 yz 175 everywhere. I wish I still had that bike... I don't know if this applies in your case but I used those spring "wedges" (2 on each spring) to get the ride height back up.
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I had the same carrier on a lincoln town car
..hooptie?
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It was my Ghetto Cruiser... Bright yellow w/ a burgandy top, and center line wheels. I think it belonged to Issac Hayes before me...
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...dammit!!
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..snapped another belt...
..the NEW one...
..these 23100 belts will not hold up to a derestricted variator, 9 gram rollers and a 1000 spring...
..i can feel the belt's "cogs" rumbling on the drive or driven boss when it gets too tight...
..gotta keep it around 45-50 mph....
..i put all the oem parts back in to ease the work off the belt some...
..i have two new 748-18-28 belts to be delivered tomorrow....
..i hate pushing this damned scoot...
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I've noticed mines a bit cluncky on take off with the gates and slips a bit need a mallossi equivelent.Don't think the belt will last long.Haveing a great time despite leaving with tools to fix anything and no parts! On a barrowed lap top will post more when I get back got some pics and all.
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when i put the gates belt on and lost some pull but gained ALOT of top end. i thought it was just from the old belt being worn but i'm guessing its because its longer. i dont see how u all are running 8 and 9 gram rollers. i had 6 gram rollers in mine and it was perfect! i put this huge back tire on and had to lighten up to 5.6. i've been spinning and sliding and cant wear this thing out. i wanted 2 get some use out of it. what upgrades have u done to your cvt?
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...dre, i was also using an aluminum drive face and a 1000 torque drive spring and an NCY clutch...
..the drive face is MUCH lighter than oem, so that probably explains the 9 grams for me...
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could u tell a difference when u put all that on? i dont know what i want to do to it next. im stock everything but cdi, pipe and belt and before i changed back tires i could stay past the 50mph mark like between the k and m! and get there pretty quick.
u change your reeds yet word?
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I'm running the mollassi veriater,b bore kit and the dr slider clutch with the 8 1/2 g rollers 1000 rpn spring and stock dr pully flies,I need to play with these a bit more but didn,t bring them all made slight differences.Threw all this together just before the trip and wish i brought 9 and 10 g rollers a hand full of jets and my fatter needle jet,makeing all my power at 55mph and running to 60 for any length of time it will shut down.It's working so hard i think i'm running the fuel out of the float bowl I had my scoot tuned for cooler wet weather not 95 plus.Seems to me you should try a heavier wheight I'd try a 7.0 or a 7.5.Just did that to my brother inlaws 2002 stock pipe k/n filter shimmed the needle up(2 beer can widths) and drilled the main out to 90+and 7.5 rollers.Hey dre what is your main jet size.The big tire did throw all my stuff off had to upjet and play with the transmition.If you did the front tire also it will change your speedo 3to5mph slower(closer to true speed)it also made my mid weaker but great top.thats why i bought the more tuneable clutch and its back to the drawing board when i get home ;)
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..10 -20 days for delivery, but the reeds are on order...
..not riding any more than i have to until they arrive...
..PLUS, i'm tired of pushing this damned thing every time it breaks these 23100 belts...
..i've snapped 2 new ones...
..i think the 1000 sprng will be desirable with the 748-18-28 belt, and like art,i gotta fine tune the cvt once installed..
..but i do know that it ran past the 60 mph mrk on the speedometer, on relatively flat land with the 748...
..seemed to be a band that kicked in around 50 mph, and increased really quick, up to past 60...
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..installed the 748-18-28 belt, NCY variator with the aluminum drive face..(longer tapered drive surface than OEM drive face)...9 gram rollers and the NCY clutch and bell with a 1000 torque drive spring, on the OEM torque driver setup...
..i love this set-up with the excepton of the torque driver...
..the OEM drivr has two different pitches to it's profile...
..the NCY's driver has one gradual profile, which i think will eliminate the mid-range lag i get with the longer belt..
..imma change out the torque driver tomorrow...
..still it hit 60 mph indicated with 1/3 throttle to go...
..8.5 gram rollers, with the same other set-up, would not turn out enough to hit that top speed...
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I only show 50mph on the 2002 plus years ,but run a good inch and a half past at pegged,My sister picked up a 2009 new people 150 while I was down there(I'll have pics later)pretty sure here speedo will drop right in to a 50 with a 90+mph reading on the top,I got to have one!
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O.K. check out this homless looking killbilly,we made it!
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We instantly had a gang and picked up the lance charming It was hard to look at.
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But the rider was alot easier on the eyes,Wife wouldn't let me keep her!
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Some people think trunks are for slow old people,could still get my helmit in there ;D
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This was the worst part of the trip,private drag strip!
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And no parts!!!
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We do have a new Kymco convert though,My sister bought this after one ride on the people 50.
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A 2009 with no miles p 150,check out the speedo if you can,I't will fit! $2300 I've been seeing them used for more.
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It's late I'm out catch ya all later
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...woww...looks like ya'll had a blast....
..would like to run that drag strip....
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I knew you"d like the 2t,did you go to the stock spring.Mine with the 8.5gs in there was slipping the belt bad at take off then nearly wheely when it cought after the belt burned in for a few miles.I think the power we are creating is over driving the belt and variater.Might try the stocker again Do they sell a lighter spring?plus this new clutch has lots of options for adjustment.Too beat to do anything just yet!we are now in the 90s was 65 when i left.Where to begin left the shop in a mess.
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..with the 8.5s and the stock spring, i too experienced slippage..the first mile or so was awesome, then performance dropped off...
..couldn't get any torque...so i changed to 9 gram rollers and the 1000 torque spring...
..take-off suffers a bit... i don't have that super-quick take-off like before..
..but remember, i'm still kinda babying it, as i still have the split reed...
..before, with the 9 gram and 1000 spring, everything felt good...
.i'm going to stay with this setup until my reeds arrive, as it kinda keeps the engine's rpms down....
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I think the power we are creating is over driving the belt and variater
..i've snapped 3 "stock" belts..
..two KYMCO branded Bando's and one Gates...
..i am NOT ever going to put another 23100 on this scoot...
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..oh, and btw...
..i could LIVE in that scooter room....
;D
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I hear ya there my rpms with the heat down there were way too high liked the 9g better ,but mid suffered but could cruise at pegged with little effort and take off wasn't bad,I was making the max power this engine could handle but peaked to soon and couldn't do a damn thing about it without parts.Could still runn 50/55 with no problem but wanted to do some top speed runs on the strip.It felt to me the spring was letting it rev to high before engaging and then it hit hard.I'd like to try a malossi equill and play with the rest of the cvt,but going to run the gates till it blows!I went through 7 tanks of gas and put about 500 miles on while there think I was averiging about 35 mpg ;D I'm still beat and suffering from the heat.I'll let ya know what i come up with whan i can move again.
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Ha thers room you havnt seen the side yard ;D
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Another thought is may actualy want a lighter than stock contra spring
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..i'm very tempted to put the stock contra back in, with the 9 gram rollers...
..and i still want to try the NCY torque driver, with it's constant profile...
.;.it's been between 97 and 101 here all week..
..only 90 today...
..i can relate to the beat from th' heat...
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Ya I think lighter spring and after market veriater.I'm in shock 65 dagrees and wet when I left havn't seen the sun since last summer,was hopeing to come back to 70 to 80 Its 95.The dr slider clutch i have has a duell set of fly's to play with and a hand full of spring sets.If i could turn a wrench ha!
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..i have a NCY variator and aluminum drive face...the NCY drive face has a different profile than the oem, which allows the belt to ride out further...the variator's roller ramps are also more gradual than the oem...
..the NCY clutch pads are wider and longer than oem, and it's clutch bell has holes drilled around it's circumference...
..i have several different fly clutch spring to try, but i'm kinda okay with the ones in the ncy clutch...
..still wondering about the oem contra spring in the ncy clutch...with 9 gr rollers...
..that's going to be my next experiment..
..just not today...lol...
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I havn't seen the ncy running the mallossi I think it,s similar The dr slider and bell is sopposed to be more tunable with the 2 sets of fly's It deffinetly grabs and hooks up better than stock mayby to good is that possible ha!No doubt if I could do a damn thing right now thats next.
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...it's always sunny here...so it seems...we're in the beginning stages of our annual drought...lol...
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..i had a malossi in my guilty, and yeah, they are almost identical in profile...
..the ncy is lighter tho...
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Might be why i hav'nt snapped one yet,but it's comming if i dont get something dialed in,I can feel the inevitable comming after the k/n swap and 8.5g rollers,can you have to much power to the ground Ha!
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..i don't think you can ever have too much power, if you set it up right...
..i'm close, but i can't do anything else until i get my reeds..
..i'm only riding it when i absolutely have to..
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..like ...to get more beer and cigs...stuff like that...lol..
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..and speaking of power, i had less than 20 miles on one of those new 23100 belts when it snapped...
..go figure that...
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I didn't seem to have the problem till i went to the longer belt and the race clutch of corse.Still thinking a mallossi = would be worth a try cant find the right #s to order only got one long belt and a hand full of stockers,But need the long for that top speed some day with gps.
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..if your stock drive face is like mine, then you will never get the full benefit of the longer belt...
..there is nearly a 1/4 inch of flat on my oem face, where the NCY's drive face tapers all the way out to to nearly the bottom of the teeth...leaves just enough room for the flats on the side of the belt...
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Ya running the mallossi, but it was a big difference from the stock belt and the longer gates cruising pegged was a breeze took a little longer to get there but was great when there and had 3/4 throttle left to play with while running the 9g.
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had 3/4 throttle left to play with while running the 9g.
..I KNOW RIGHT??!!
..you have a malossi variator AND drive face?
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Yes(the multivater) and dr slider clutch and bell,I think it's little heavier than the ncy.Or do i not know what a drive face is.The ramps right.I always had clutches and gears when younger.I'm still learning too. ;D
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..the drive face is the bit with the teeth..that the starter engages...
..when i bought my malossi variator, it did not come with this part...
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..dang..i gotta get me another camera..
..my kodak broke...
..i'd like to show you the difference in the drive face's profile...it's significant...
..the longer belt needs the extra taper on the drive face to be effective...
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Now that you mention it I don't think so,I'll have to look,(tomarrow)It did deffinetly run taller with the longer belt.You could see The stock veriater would not let the belt run to the top at all or the belt was to short.I think i get it no I don't have it,still stock,and not busting belts yet.change it out.
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Crzy from the heat and 12 pack can't remember my name Ha!
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Maybe running the belts right of the veriater
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..Maybe running the belts right of the veriater
..i'm not..just draw a sharpie mark on your variator and drive face...
..it'll show you where your belt's going...
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..yeah, i'm 8 into a 12...
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...polini makes a 95mm variator....
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Ya try the stock drive face you will still get benifit from the long belt,mid is my only gripe with it set this way and will get ironed out eventualy.I'm in danger of busting the belt because of power delivery once running all is well take off is harsh.Do they have titanium belts? Ha!
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Not sure what the stock one is
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..stock is 89mm...
..malossi is 90 mm..
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I think mine the way it is will be fine once dialed.Down there I was making all the power i think this motor has just not where I wanted it to be or i need a bigger carb,but was running pretty hard at 60 would actualy shut down like it was out of gas if ran for to long,let off and would run all day at 55 with no fuel econimy.
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..that's what mine did with the short belt...ran out of fuel..or so it seemed...
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with The 9g it will be fine and running the long belt
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..mine has been, with the 9 grms......when i get my reeds, i would ride this bitch to th' beach with confidence...
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Cool What are those reeds anyway going to have to get me a couple sets
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..they act like valves on a 4t..they are thin "petals" of stainless steel that flex open and slam closed at the chamber's intake...
..carbon fibre upgrades are available, and the difference in their thickness..(.030-.033" per say) determine low and top end power..they react similar to variator roller weight adjustments...
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Ha! I kinda knew that part What and where did you order,We used to cut are own but i usualy had better luck with a new set of boisen's,I got no patience and didn't know the glue trick
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..i figured you knew that already...lol..
..i ordered oem replacements from stadiumyamaha...
..i'm happy with how they performed, until i broke that first drive belt and split th' reed...
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The the carbin fiber are usualy a bit snappier and open better at WOT.all have to have a look hav'ent opend any of mine yet.
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..i couldn't imagine better..
but then i'm coming off my a50 4t as a reference point..
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Havn't tried it on the scoots,but my brand new dirt bikes that would be the first to go while waiting on a pipe.It did make a difference.
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...pipe...you just HAD to mention PIPE, didn't you....
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You are doing fine without it,The carb is the bottle neck up to 2005,But it won't sound like a tecnigas ;D actually my bro in laws sounded pretty good,carb only thing holding it back from the 55 to 60 range with his 250+ butt on it
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..i like the sound it has now...well, not now, but rather when the reed wasnt split...
..pop-pop-pop-pop-...
..sounded really strong...now it sorta kinda wheezes out the carb..
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Ya him and I riding together they almost had the same tone and resination his a little quieter.That was about it.
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..that's cool tho..you hooked him up.!!
;D
...need to get all them on th forum!!
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Got to run,time to bbq got some new york steaks and hungry people staring at me ;)
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..laters...
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There not to michanical,The dealer told her not to let me touch her p150 while under warrenty ;D
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..they act like valves on a 4t..they are thin "petals" of stainless steel that flex open and slam closed at the chamber's intake...
..carbon fibre upgrades are available, and the difference in their thickness..(.030-.033" per say) determine low and top end power..they react similar to variator roller weight adjustments...
i think that made me finally understand the reed thing.
thanks
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I'm running the mollassi veriater,b bore kit and the dr slider clutch with the 8 1/2 g rollers 1000 rpn spring and stock dr pully flies,I need to play with these a bit more but didn,t bring them all made slight differences.Threw all this together just before the trip and wish i brought 9 and 10 g rollers a hand full of jets and my fatter needle jet,makeing all my power at 55mph and running to 60 for any length of time it will shut down.It's working so hard i think i'm running the fuel out of the float bowl I had my scoot tuned for cooler wet weather not 95 plus.Seems to me you should try a heavier wheight I'd try a 7.0 or a 7.5.Just did that to my brother inlaws 2002 stock pipe k/n filter shimmed the needle up(2 beer can widths) and drilled the main out to 90+and 7.5 rollers.Hey dre what is your main jet size.The big tire did throw all my stuff off had to upjet and play with the transmition.If you did the front tire also it will change your speedo 3to5mph slower(closer to true speed)it also made my mid weaker but great top.thats why i bought the more tuneable clutch and its back to the drawing board when i get home ;)
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when i had the heavier rollers with my engine and everthing being stock and me being heavy and the HUGE tire it had no pull. I still have that stock size tire on the front. I think without going to a bigger bore the huge tire is just a bad idea! the only reason i haven't changed the tire i because i might go big bore. its just o tough stock. but i'm right at 20,000. something's got to be ready to go. and i'm still spinnin slidin and flying past 4 stroke 50's. shim the needle you lost me! i noticed you've come to the 2 stroke side wordslinger my friend!
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Hey dre unless you got the carb word has,the needle jet is not tunable but there is a spring under the cap in the slide that can be forced up a bit to run a little richer with a couple shims,beer cans work great.Tried to follow your posts back,might need a refresher,but your not running an open air box and stock main jet. all our tuneing is with open air box and BIGGER JETS!!!You want to open the jets up till they sputter than drop down a hair a 95# main seems to be the best start or start drilling,That motor has some life left,you will be suprized,for us with this tuneing We have had to go up in weight to get the power back at the top end if i were to run a 6 or 7g roller I would top out so fast 0 to 40 and be working the motor at meltdown stage if you pushed any harder,might be smoking the tire and wheelying at the same time If the belt holds Ha!So I'd say bigger jets and k/n filter,if it does blow you'll need this stuff for the big bore kit anyway!Forgot what year you had seems the 99 to 2001 have a better stock carb.Word has come to the dark side,these bikes are banned in california!
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noticed you've come to the 2 stroke side wordslinger my friend!
..i had the opportunity to get a people when i bought my a50...
..live and learn...
;D
..imma still build my guilty, as soon as i get this one where i'm comfortable with riding it daily to work and back (35 mile round trip)..
..that was still one fast stock A50 ...
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Hey dre unless you got the carb word has,the needle jet is not tunable but there is a spring under the cap in the slide that can be forced up a bit to run a little richer with a couple shims,beer cans work great.Tried to follow your posts back,might need a refresher,but your not running an open air box and stock main jet. all our tuneing is with open air box and BIGGER JETS!!!You want to open the jets up till they sputter than drop down a hair a 95# main seems to be the best start or start drilling,That motor has some life left,you will be suprized,for us with this tuneing We have had to go up in weight to get the power back at the top end if i were to run a 6 or 7g roller I would top out so fast 0 to 40 and be working the motor at meltdown stage if you pushed any harder,might be smoking the tire and wheelying at the same time If the belt holds Ha!So I'd say bigger jets and k/n filter,if it does blow you'll need this stuff for the big bore kit anyway!Forgot what year you had seems the 99 to 2001 have a better stock carb.Word has come to the dark side,these bikes are banned in california!
i have no idea what size the jet is. i kept opening it up with torch tip cleaners. im sure i got a pretty big jet. i had it to big and had to solder and go down one. and its a 2001 BEAST! HA! I can smoke the tire now! i've probably already wore the new belt out!noticed you've come to the 2 stroke side wordslinger my friend!
..i had the opportunity to get a people when i bought my a50...
..live and learn...
;D
..imma still build my guilty, as soon as i get this one where i'm comfortable with riding it daily to work and back (35 mile round trip)..
..that was still one fast stock A50 ...
im stuck on two strokes! they dont have cams do they?
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O.k.you got the good carb did you raise that needle,might give ya some more mid.If you can smoke the tire,your makeing some power,for me I'd like a little more top at the expence of wheelies and tire smoke(although its fun at the lights!)Might want to take a look at that clutch,probably showing some signs of wear and glazing.check out sip scooters has some good prices,of corse if there pick up the multivater and the long belt Ha!
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and its a 2001 BEAST! HA! I can smoke the tire now!
...wooo-hooooo!!!
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..i bet you will with 6.5 g rollers!!!!
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...okay, this is a bit disturbing...
..with the 9 g rollers, and the 1000 contra spring, my belt is showing that it's hitting my starter bendix....
..imma go back to the oem contra spring....
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Did you go back to the stock drive face.Been playing with mine all day.now running the 10g white contra and stiffer fly's.not right yet but my top is amazing again!I love parts!!! HA!
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..i'm keeping the drive face...i believe it's a necessity...might be wrong...
...top speed RULZ....even with a wheezing reed... but my belt is rubbing the starter at some point...
..hmmm....
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My main problem was roller weights to light with the longer belt(it was slipping)Belt looked ok for the abuse I put it through.Now got a little lag on take off but comes on earlier at 1/8 throttle and mid still needs a boost but great at 40+ and getteing there a little quicker.
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...now i'm wondering if I need something in between the 748 and the stock 23100...
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I think ya should throw tho stocker back on and check it out,(with some 10g's Ha!)You are running into something else think it''s the face ???
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....from where the mark is, on the belt, there is not much of any other possibility...
..it lines righ up with the bendix...
..that's why i got two belts....one for tuning.....
..imma try the stock drive face....just to see,
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I'm getting over 60 with it
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..i am too...
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..and i still! don't see how you got a bigger tyre on the rear of this scoot...dang....
:o
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It rubs a little not bad
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...wow......
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I'll post a pic of the rub ring later hits when spring compresses just cleans it a bit.And here it is.
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Had a bunch of pics of the dr slider clutch and bell tune today took in wrong resilution :'( I'm sure it will be opened up again.
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..i bet you will with 6.5 g rollers!!!!
the 6 to 6.5 rollers are perfcet with the trans stock. before the big tire! could smoke the tire and go way past the 50 on the speedo
i guess its time to start playing with the cvt. where should i start the clutch and bell? does the contra spring come with it? and does it have to be marossi or poloni? i looked for nyc scooter parts but couldn't find any
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I liked the malossi verieater over the polini for over 50 range,the polini was more preciise to 50 than kinda fell off.I'm running the dr pulley hit clutch and bell right now big improvement over stock and has lots of tuneing potential,don't know how it compares to others(I like it so far)I don't think it came with a contra,the white spring seems to be best so far with it,then the long belt for more top.Sip has the best deals that i can find.
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Hey word why do ya think race bikes have no electric start,Doh! bet its in the literature for your drive face,It's not just the weight It's in the way!!!
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Todays fun.The dr pulley
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notice the 2 sets of springs front and back, been all over the board with it,something isn't quit right
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O.K back to that drive face,I think this is my bottleneck now.I have decent take off to just off idle with the 10g's, than seems to drag to 40 then a great hit to pegged, so my thoughts are the ramp angle or more weight dont have anything bigger than 10g at the moment,does look like belt is still slipping a bit by all the dust i'm accumulating between short test runs and cleaning it out after each time i open it,so whats out there and a pic of your ncy would be nice if that camara is working.catch ya later got to find some bigger weights. ;D
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... O.K back to that drive face ...
..yup...that's th' oem...
..now imagine that tapered all the way nearly to the teeth..
..imma drop by wally world tomorrow and get me another camera...
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..i'm getting dust too..
..i'm really thinking that the optimum belt size is between the two we have...
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..my scoot won't run the 23100, whatever that qualifies as (748-18-28) specs.....
..i've snapped 3 teeth off one, and pretty much melted two more...
..i'll post pics when i get my camera tomorrow...
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..a 95mm variator would require removing some of the aluminum casing above the starter bendix...
..like with a dremel...
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..hmmm...
"http://www.spi-parts.com/models/kymco/kymco-agility-50/variator.html"
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I have the polini in my other build liked it to 50 then kinda dropped off.Did you try the stock face,I was getting the 23100 to pegged pretty quick.Just like the idia of the longer belt Its a whole new gear range just cant quite capitalize on it yet.All the thing I'm reading are saying with the race clutch if it's slipping go to bigger weights and or Spring.I'm going to see how mutch more weight i can possibly run,than back to the contra and flies,but think ultimatly right now my drive face is an issue,sliding right past the usfull part of the face than have to play catchup till 40+ then its a dream.I'll try the weights first.
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Have you snapped a gates belt yet.malossi does have one that is a little shorter but a 19 dagree pitch i think.
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...i pretty much melted a gates "powerlink"...
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There's the catch I think it's your drive face and i think my problem's the drive face HA!What else is out there!I'm not up on this part at all.The melt should be from heat (slipping),you need more weight!
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..i swapped back to my oem drive face, with the ncy variator, oem 8.5 rollers, NCY clutch with a 1000 contra and the oem torque driver...
..take-off really picked up..
..so did the lag in mid-range speed...
..again, i'm not pushing it to run hard, but top speed stayed the same..
..i will inspect the belt later, to see if it's rubbing...
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That is what i'm thinking the angle of the stock face is'nt working well with the long belt,Will try some bigger weights today.I was thinking on yours with the ncy to remove the electric starter gear,thought the top of your belt was hitting it or more weight for you too or heavyer spring.The 8.5 for me was too light maxed power at 55 mph and no gas mileage,part of this is the larger tire size for me.
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..your bigger rear tire and my split reed...
..i can't really get any positive results until i get my new reeds...
..i'm only riding when i must...
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...but i must run the longer belt...i'm snapping 23100s like they're rubber bands...
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Ha! got the bigger weights today,but didn't get to play with yet,Wife wants me to do some summer time upgrades to the house(there needed),and the bug hatch this year is insane (screen doors).I'll let ya know tomarrow,i hope,the ceiling fan project is not going well yet.Is there an american made fan that doesn't suck!!!I have two from the 70's that kick ass,the new stuff is not even close and didn't go cheap.(need them to blow)Still wondering was your belt hitting the starter gear,the drive face gear or just melting down?
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..with the ncy drive face, i'm sure it was hitting the starter gear...
..on the outside of the belt...
..wearing a groove, about 1/8" ftom the inner edge...
..now, i LIKE the way it's performing, even with my issues, aaaand with the bits i stated below...
..impatiently waitng for my reeds, cause i still remember dropping the speedometer a good 1/4" below the 60mph mark...
..before i snapped that first belt...
..dammit...
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Pull the electric start gear I think you can still kick start,the gear just slips out,this is theory have not tried,should eleminate that problem,the smaller belt and heat should be a weight issue(slipping)I think,might be looking at that ncy myself unless there are some others to look at,I use the kick start mostly anyway.Now if we could get an upgear in the works I think 100mph is obtainable. ;D
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..i'm sure it will kick...i keep that in working order just in case..........
..i ran my a50 without the starter bendix installed for over a year..
..gonna need the 95mm variator, plus some grinding of the casing around the starter, to get this belt riding high on the ncy drive face...
....i might do that later on...
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Ha! got nothing to lose and 2 more if this don't work out.I think the mallosi veriater will be fine.Talkin bout a tranny upgear no one has one that i'm aware of yet.
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..saw one for a gy6. big-bore upgrade, but ain't ever seen one for the ppl...
..hmmm...
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That what I'm talkin bout,heard it's not the same but no one is working on these things much yet.Could start a whole new industry if the word gets out about these great motors!
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..i thot the s9 and the zx had the milk...
..but i dunno...this 2001 out of the box, kicks ass...
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I agree havn't road the s9 I see the potential just don't like the small tires,an lc in the people would be the sh**e!I have put this thing some abuse and seems to thrive on it,who would of knew,I got 4 honda's sitting here and don't think they can do what the people can.Didn't have the xz long enouph to play but the people was smoking it in stock form!Up to the 2005 models
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Todays trial and trb the 12g did nothing for the mid but created a crazy hit after 40 mph no more belt dust, polishing the veriater and boss and seemed to improve the take off a little and tranny running way cooler,Bike running like crap after 55 seems to be peaking the power band again ??? .Tried the 11g not much difference,little more mid that was about it.Tore down carb at least a teaspoon of water(thanks to a local shell station) back to chevron.Seems I'm loseing ground here with the heat long belt and stock drive face ::) . Going to try to run all these test again with the 23100 belt then look to a new drive face.Not sure what i'm missing here,but think i was doing better with the stock set and long belt except the mid sucked.
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..well...the good thing is, i got my a50 back online...
..now i can PLAY with my people....
...wow....imagine that...........
;D
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Kinda sucks but wait till you get into the 2t you will like the simplicity of the motor.You can do a top end in less than an hour.splitting the cases a little more involved and the age old delemma since your there what do ya want to do with it.At least you got to see the power and potential.
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..i hit 65 indicated out of the box with nothing but a free-flow filter and a big jet....
..my ppl is gonna FLY!!!!
;D
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;D :) ;) cool ! Like i said got a lower milage piston and rings for ya when ready.
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...imma start the investigation tomorrow evenin'....
..thanx for the offer bro....
..hopefully, i won't need anything...but i'd be appreciative of any and all assistance....
..the people crapping out has really been a blesssing in disguise...
..MADE me get my guilty running decently...
.hopefully now, i can really play with this ppl a bit...
..the seat hurts my ass, but that scoot is a joy to ride.....
:o
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Sister swears by here jel pad and seat cover,gona try some day,My damn router is dieing,,Might be on limmited acces for a day or 2,washing machine is dieing also.Too many projects! catch ya later
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..it's the damned seat lock mechanism that burries itself into my left ass-cheek..
..tell mama i said HEY!...
..laters!
peace
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Well the title say's it all! I now own a 2007 people 200s with 2500 miles on it,couldn't pass it at $1300,Me on a 4t never thought that would happen after the vino 125,it's those damn 16" tires I'm a sucker for ;D .heres some pics
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there is some cosmetic damage.the title was reconstructed,starting to think theft recovery,but all works great so far
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Cant load any more just yet,catch ya all later
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good deal
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...crate it up and ship it to n.c....
;D
..i'll be waiting......
:o
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Got to let me do some mods first It will be to slow for you
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you keep it up and I AM gonna come live in your scooter room.....rlmao........you have all the scoots.....i dont blame you man, sweet deal.....
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you keep it up and I AM gonna come live in your scooter room.....rlmao........you have all the scoots.....
..ain't that for frikin' real??!!...
..you're gonna need a bigger house art......
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;D ;D ;D ;D ...we are BOTH coming then..get out the extra beds/cots... ;D ;D ;D
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I got an extra room ya'll have to share,I do have a bigger out building the size of a small 3 car garauge,But it was built for horses and not set up well,needs a major remodal.some day.The riding season kinda sucks here but the scoot deals can be amazing,they sit all winter and people don't want to deal with them(But I do!) Gives me something to do and sell the one i'm not fond of or have too many of,The silver people might go tonight(Fingers crossed)I run a great shop allways in the hole I keep too many ;D
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...lol..it ain't no fun if y' ain't trying to get up out th' hole....
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well then...just pack up the scoot room and come to n.c. we can ride dam near all year long..(IS cold as crap in winter tho,lmao)... ;) ;) :D
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Wife wouldn't let me she landed her dream job(worlds biggest book store powell books) Allready took her away from her friends down south,Got to keep her.(some one has to make some money round here!)
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Hey did ya try the 7.25 set up yet,just curiouse
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Hey Art, it has been brought to my attention that you have too many scooters and a short riding season. We wouldn't want to see you get in the s#%t with ya missus, so perhaps you could crate a couple up and send them OS, I'll be waiting!!! :D
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Ha! I know this is a terrible problem(TO MANY SCOOTERS!)They are breeding like rabbits around here.To compound the problem we are having the mildest summer in the recorded history of the state.Thought i'd move 4 or 5 easily at the beggining of the season to make room for this winters round of deals.Space to work in my garage is cramped and side yard is starting to fill up ::) On the positive side I've had a chance to ride and compare most of the brands and models and found the Kymco brand to be a great bike for the coin,wish i started with one.Thought honda was the stuff till the kymco showed up.
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hey art, gotta ? for ya or anybody.....found a STRAIGHT UP basket case ppl 50, for 20$. missing head, carb, exhaust,stator,magneto, belt cover...early model also...would it be worth even taking home???? could you hook me up wit yard sale price oem parts?? lmao also a super9, needs carb, a couple body panels, seat, for next to NOTHING...it is worth taking home i know.....lmao(pretty sure its lc tho). ever heard of a lc kymco motor/scooter called... magnedelli???? something to that effect....not minirelli for sure!!... supposed to be a kymco just called magnadelli, mackarelli, idk.......
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..i'll give you 25 for it!!
;D
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$30 for me,I got all the stuff ya need minus stater and mag ha! for a price could have the head work belt and 2009 pipe sent to ya plus a modded carb.BUY IT!!! ;) ;D
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...you need ppl in your life, bat....
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seems like a bunch of us n.c. folk on here
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...yup...where you dre?..
???
..i'm in randleman....
;D
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...i just changed out my clutch in my guilty...
..imma go for a test run...
..went from the stock ppl clutch (hadda try it) to the oem a50 clutch with +15% Leo Vince (that's how they rate them) fly clutch springs with 4.7 gram rollers in the ncy variator with the stock drive face....and the 729 belt....
..be back in 15 or so...
peace
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cool 8)
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..eliminated the initial lag, and my rpms are up overall...
..i'm done...
;D
..time to get back to th' 2-stroke....
:o
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Better top speed? You can't stop there :D
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Got to run chatch ya'll later
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..i've been pushing this 4-stroke for a long time...
..imma leave it where it is for now...
..i hadda tail-wind on the way home from work today, and again...it hit top speeds i've not seen before....
..me be HAPPY with that...lol...
;D
..i want to get this ppl back online...it's a beastie!!....
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...wellll..i might put th' 20mm carb back on it...hmmm...
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that basket case only has 5300km on it...dam, that is alot of parts it needs tho....i wasnt thinking about all that..itll take me forever.....lmao...unless i got some great "yard sale" prices....lmao...that and a lc super9 (needs carb, sum plastic) for $125(both).....SURELY i couldnt go wrong at least having a s9 motor...lmao
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...maybe, but i ain't seen any s9s here, that are getting what i've seen th' ppl do...damned near stock....
..i dunno......
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Ha! got a possible scoot sale be back later
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...money money money.....
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about the only thing on this side is those dam chinesse scoots, vip or marshin...well, several ppls in town.... go get em art!!! ;D dont let em leave without one!!....good luck.
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...vips and marshins....same here...i eat them.....
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idk if my lil zx will eat anything?!?! :'( she can pass scoots now instead of GETTING passed!!.. :D :D seem to be happy for a day when i get more speed then automatically after a ride or two. , i want MORE speed, you an art are killing me, making me want a 60 ride.(can...going down a hill bent down)...RLMAO.. :'( :-\ :'( :-\
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...no, the ppl will hit 60 indicated on a "flat"...did it....
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now see there:, i could be happy with 60! ;D (i think).... :D have you ever tried matching, btw?.
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Dont forget, they are on 16 inch wheels, you are on 12s.
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Well no sale today got an areo 50 a dio and the silver people up at the same time.had 2 more calls by the time i got back from dinner,I need some more room ha !Took the wife on the s200 no problems two up at 55mph ;D Batman buy the people It's the tires man!I'll hook ya up with what i can Will need reinberment say 20% of stock plus shipping and any mods of corse at cost.That tranny your working on will fit right in ;D I do have a carb and shaved head and spare belts could do a jug also best to buy a technogas the rest cant help much unless a honda elite magnito will work could have a stoked people for less than $500 and just think of all the support Ha!
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got to ride a deilim(sp?).. its a honda, but it was a deilim delphino..100cc. that thing had great power bone stock i could hit 55...supposedly the same as a zx motor(same looks anyway.lmao)
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...yup...where you dre?..
???
..i'm in randleman....
;D
winston
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that basket case only has 5300km on it...dam, that is alot of parts it needs tho....i wasnt thinking about all that..itll take me forever.....lmao...unless i got some great "yard sale" prices....lmao...that and a lc super9 (needs carb, sum plastic) for $125(both).....SURELY i couldnt go wrong at least having a s9 motor...lmao
super 9 is a beast. i want one!
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All ya need is this! http://www.sip-scootershop.com/EN/Products/245893/NOS+Kit+NITROUS+EXPRESS.aspx (http://www.sip-scootershop.com/EN/Products/245893/NOS+Kit+NITROUS+EXPRESS.aspx) . Ha!!!
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All ya need is this! http://www.sip-scootershop.com/EN/Products/245893/NOS+Kit+NITROUS+EXPRESS.aspx (http://www.sip-scootershop.com/EN/Products/245893/NOS+Kit+NITROUS+EXPRESS.aspx) . Ha!!!
no art! i dont wanna die!
besides who needs nitrous when u got moonshine under the seat 2 spike the gas tank!!!!!!!!
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...junior johnson baby!!!!...dre is really j.j. in disguise...
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All ya need is this!
Optimal N20 pressure lies between 600 - 800 psi. ...huh??
..what's that mean?
..my engine won't take that pressure....
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Think it's refering to the capacity of the tank so you can kill your self at over a 1/4 mile too.Ha! my moonshine to good to put in the tank,it will never make there
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...i need me a nos...or some pressurized shine, i dunno....
???
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A good a place as any to post this it is people related, I can't get the fan to run with the new drive face with either kickstart gear.The machining is tight bearly accepts the one that came with it. IT was milled for a 4t all else works fine. The clutch is vented hopeing for the best,went ahead and removed the bendix and am running the 749 with decent performance through the mid (not great) but around 50 a whole new top can maintain that 60 with little effort again! but seems to top a little quiker than before with 12g in it :o Not going to dwell on it to much because i got a new clutch face to install yet,so figure things will be changing again,was glad to see it neer what it was. Found one of my problems was the main jet I filled and drilled,some salder wore off and was sputtering at the time i thought things were going to kick in,frustraiting!!! back to running a #100 main little lean til i get the rest settled. Any thoughts on the fan? Is it needed or not,don't see any easy way to make it happen and half assing it could be fatal ;) The heat does not seem to be distributed evenly through the belt hotter on the outer than the inner ??? Then those damn springs some day!!! Ha! red you say. catch ya later all
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Finaly got the torque drive in and look out scary fast after 40 :o still running the 12g set. Only thing holding me back from new top speed is a lean main had to let off,don't know the top as of yet!!! but gets there quicker than before, not impressed with the 0 to 40 so much. I' will understand this damn cvt clutch some day ;D
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...12 grams...on your 50??
..or the upgraded one??
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The people fifty wit the kit
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...wheewww...
..i was like...what th funk!!...
:o
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Ha! I try to stay in the right threads. Got to go get my geely soon to be honda powered I hope. Catch ya later
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...i made a cpl vids of my guilty run...fixin' to get them on my youtube site....
..laters!
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Finaly got the torque drive in and look out scary fast after 40 :o still running the 12g set. Only thing holding me back from new top speed is a lean main had to let off,don't know the top as of yet!!! but gets there quicker than before, not impressed with the 0 to 40 so much. I' will understand this damn cvt clutch some day ;D
muuuust beee nice!!!!!...... i can only hope i understand it someday....(still wondering about current setup)
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Me still scratching my head too batman :D Clutches and gears so much easier we'll get it !!! Can't wait to see some vids
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Ha! I got to run. my new geely (now running sorta) been idling for an hour got to see if cought on fire yet,I'll have to post on the fine piece of work this thing is later on O>M>F>G> This is some funny sh**. Everything I ever read about this brand is true! Can't wait to stuff that aero 80 in it,but it has me ceriouse at this point to see it will move in stock form.if at all possible. :-\
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...what th' hell is a geely??
???
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One of the worst chinies clone somethings you can get from gi joes,pep boyys and cosco for a short time,there return policy was too good,most all came back ;D my owners manuel says its a jl50qt-15 and has all the info you need for the 4t It's a 2t some quality stuff here and its got some crazy plastic gear and chain tranny set up. Priceless. I will post when i have the time I'm still laughing too hard! But i needed a titled frame!
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and its got some crazy plastic gear and chain tranny
......wwowwww...........
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..gonna get a haircut..
..got's TOYO in th' plant tomorrow...
..!!zose cwazie japaneeze!!..
8)
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and its got some crazy plastic gear and chain tranny
......wwowwww...........
yep wow!!!
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The theary is if you have a siezed motor or other lock up the gear will shread and allow the tire to roll. Seems they knew their motor well cause it was quite suseptable to blowing up ;D . That motor will be yanked and put on c.l. cheap or stripped for any usable parts(not many) Will try to swap an 80cc aero in this winter sometime.
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...new reed cage assembly..
..sweeet...
;)
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..more of th' same..
;D
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Nice looks like the same pattern as batmans( Don't let him see it ;D )
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...dammit...
..i told him i was posting th' pics over here...
:-\
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:o HOLY sh** BATMAN!! :o there is one of those things riiiight there.... yeah, thats a oem??? wow, maybe THATS the zxs problem, one anyway.. :D yeah, no way that would fit in my zx. no deep hole at all to drop that in..yours looks like it drops a fsw inches into the case ..idk
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..i ordered it from stadium...yup..oem for th' 2001 people 50...
..yeah, it drops around 1.5 inches into the case...
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see... :'( :'( ..wth? dam zxs...yeah id have to mod hard im thinking..cut out that whole square shape. shaka says he has a similar one buuuuuuuut, cant ask him either..lmao. wonder what benefits are.. seems i read somewhere that those were worse to tune in but SVERAL say hell yes...crazy...
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..those zxs are a different animal fo sho'...
;D
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you got that right...... a class ALL to themselves.. :-\ :'(
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Hey batman, don't freak out, a reed cage like that will go into the ZX, you get a mount block with it so the cage doesn't sink into the crankcase. The cage goes into the mount block and the block bolts onto the crankcase where your existing reed block goes.
Sorry if I am a little late with this, but I have had other distractions, car, bikes, washing machine. To quote a famous singer, "life is what happens while you're busy making other plans".
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hey sid, its all good....thanks for the reply tho....i can feel ya there bro, it never fails.....they say it comes in 3s...which it does in my world...lmao...been trying to buy 3 parts scoots for a month now...lmao(they still safe an waiting.lol)
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I wouldnt mind living next door to art, spare parts paradise. :-)
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I wish you did I'd have somwhere to put my overflow :D I got to get things organized here before the winter hits and the rains come.
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:D :D i know thats right.. ;) ;) that would be nice..sh**, i wish we all lived closer, then we couuld have a hell of a tunning party...
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I'm haveing one every day it seems :D
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i can feel ya there.........but at least you understand, my dumb ass sits and scratches my head going, duuhhh, which way did he go george????????????
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Ha! I still have those moments,but it's nice when things finally line up and work right.
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..iwish i could find some time to do some mods....
..and work on my ppl......
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http://www.facebook.com/wordsslinger (http://www.facebook.com/wordsslinger)
..posted a new topic a good while ago in the general board...
..seems to be a lag in the forum updating new topics...
..so, i'll post my facebook link here..
..ya'll hit me up!!
..seems one must copy / paste the link in a new browser for it to work, without quotation, which is why i left them out, in this message...
peace
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Ha! No face book account here,thats the wifes thing :)
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If ya like stephen king check out clive barkers books of blood ;) His novels arn't always great but some crazy short stories, I did like cabal from him though.
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..i will, and yeah ive read all kings works...
..a cpl times...lol..or three...maybe more..
...probably more..
..hence.."wordslinger"...
:o
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If ya like stephen king check out clive barkers books of blood ;) His novels arn't always great but some crazy short stories, I did like cabal from him though.
i thought book of blood was rated pg..pure garbage.. :D sorry art... whoa, i thougjt i had seen about all kings stuff....wordslinger from king?????????? mustve missed that one.... ;D i never finished my facebook account cuz of this dam phone...still have my myspace tho.. ::) :D
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Ya i kinda put that together at one point(wordslinger) Ha! I havn't read much of anything in years(short attention span ;D) Thus the short stories.
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Ha! The movie sucked,but the origanal stories it's based on were good (most of them anyway). The gunslinger is one of kings latest series all part of the dark towers or some thing. Havn't read though.
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...The Dark Tower series is 7 parts...
..if you can make it past the first volume..."The Gunslinger", (a lot of ppl cant)..you'ld be in for one helluva ride!!
..for the most part, all of king's works relate to the dark tower...
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Ya i remember somthing back in salems lot(i think) and always wanted to see more of that world, but after misery I gave up ;D
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...callahan is a major player in the latter dark tower books...
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Ha! I might try again some day, A buddy of mine has been keeping up on it,but been hard for me to sit and do anything lately,hell just sitting isn't a walk in the park for me anymore ;D
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..if you've nevr read the dark tower series...you've missed king's message...
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Hey look what i found http://www.sip-scootershop.com/EN/Products/M6711055/Primary+gearing+MALOSSI+Kymco.aspx (http://www.sip-scootershop.com/EN/Products/M6711055/Primary+gearing+MALOSSI+Kymco.aspx) . I think it's a fit!!!
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..wow...that's what the people needs!!!!
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..it's so awesome, they won't let you copy the pic from the website!!
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Ha! Look what else i found today
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OOps I did it again :D A 2006 people 150 with around 1500 miles and a bit crunched $600
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Couldnt help my self
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..crunched front..otherwise.......
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Allready got it running but that front needs some attention,some one tried to repair it and lost all the front stearing bearings ::) Should be a good one I hope :D needs a few hundred in plastic the rest not bad.
Story is it got backed in to so nothing bent so far. fingers crossed :P
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..ur a ppl freak!!!
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;D mods will be comeing ;) I didn't have enouph peoples in the garauge sold 2 50's this summer only had 3 left :D
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$250 for the plastic from stadium,slow delivery :'( getting stuff from germany faster ::) oh well should have all for the s200 next week (Its getting faster!) ;) I'll try to catch that thread up,I've been beat, New meds ::) :P :-\ Kicking my ass!!!
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..ur a ppl freak!!!
I AM A BELIEVER. :D :D :D :D ;D nice scooter tho, good addition.. :D ;)
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..need to move to portland..art has all the toys there....
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i know THATS RIGHT!!!... :D :D
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Ha! The winters kinda suck,going to try to ride more this one,but can be down right depressing,
Got the 150 purring today but all is on hold till parts show up :'( No bearings in the stearing neck make going over 30mph a little hairy with the balance all out of wack and all must be pulled to install the new fender so only want to do it once. Got to be able to roll the thing around with all my half done projects ::) I think i'm close on the s200.
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Aeh, who needs steering bearings? ;)
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Ha! apparently I do ;D I don't know how i missed this when I bought it. I knew it had to come appart for the fender change but didn't relize there were no bearing at all in the bottem half ::) Everything else looked so good I didn't consider looking closely at the rest :D I just hope they didn't try to fix anything else ;D
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Ha ha, when you see a rear wheel go sailing by, you will know they did. :D
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but didn't relize there were no bearing at all in the bottem half
..damn..i just read that...
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They tend to fall out no matter what you do. Got to grease the hell out of them to make them stick in place :D But means I can't test ride till it's fixed. Parts are on the way!!! got a tracking #
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...did a stare and compare between the 01 and th 07 carbs today...
..the 01 has a MUCH bigger carb than the 07..
..they don't even use the same throttle cable, as the 01's throttle body is around 1/2"..the 07's is around 3'8"...
..the 07 and 01 throttle threads won't match up...
..BIG FRIKIN DIFFERENCE!!!
:o
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..the 01's intake is also at least 1.5mm larger in I.D...
..and the two carb / intake's vacuum ports are in different locations...
..imma post pics later...
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Slinger, You are a dog! That is the same engine as the super fever. You will be doing 60mph in no time. (for just under $1000.00) Malossi jug, 0.50mm off the malossi head, rs II pipe, 20-28 mm carb, and the cvt. Congrats Bro!
Hello my friend! Just wanted to clarify, the People 50 engine is horizontal - the Super Fever is vertical. Though the engines are different, they are both capable of some pretty awesome performance modifications. :)
~Josh
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..yeah..that's true...
..i just rode that blue 04 zx you tuned for chris...
..good frikin work josh!! that lil scoot rocks!!!
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..yeah..that's true...
..i just rode that blue 04 zx you tuned for chris...
..good frikin work josh!! that lil scoot rocks!!!
What tha!?!?
You know, it's a really freaking small world man. Chris was just by my shop today, I fixed a Scarabeo Di-Tech for him, and he took me to Cracker Barrel for lunch. I had no IDEA that it was you who was interested in that ZX! :P
~Josh
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..well, it wasn't me personally..but a co-worker...
..i had NO idea that the seller was Chris!!!...
..till my bud called me from where he met him for delivery...
..he handed chris th' phone for directions, and we discovred we knew who th fnck we was talkin' to...lol..
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I fixed a Scarabeo Di-Tech for him,
..yeah, he said so..
..bet it screams......
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..imma riding that zx to th' plant in the morning...
..he left it here for me to check out...lol..
..hell, it don't need no checking out..
..it's dang near showroom!!! except faster!!
;D
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...history on that scoot...
my bud loved it...happened to leave it unsecured 1 time at night in front of his casa...
:-\
..it was gone in the morning...
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I know... Wanna buy a blue '04 cheap?
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..what's up brother z!!!
..long time so see!!!
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..what's up brother z!!!
..long time so see!!!
Real talk. I thought about calling you Zombie, just to make sure you didn't ride off on a boat to some other country and leave scootering life behind.
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I know... Wanna buy a blue '04 cheap?
Whos the noob? :-\
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and leave scootering life behind.
..that's probably going to happen...
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>>!!POOF!!<<
..he gone again.....
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Poof! Just like that here again... Poof!!! gone...
I'll catch you all up once I get caught up... XOXOXO :-*
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..you're such a tease....
:-*
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..you're such a tease....
:-*
+1. Better have some good stories for us too.
Or drink.
Or drugs.
Or hookers.
Or all of the above.
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