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Scooters - 125 to 300 => People GT 300i => Topic started by: Commscooter on April 20, 2014, 11:39:33 PM
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The other day, the check engine light flashed 45, an O2 Sensor failure. There was noticable black smoke coming from the exhaust. My dealer sent me a new O2 Sensor and the smoke went away.
The problem is that the shop manual states: "If the Diagnostic Trouble Codes are not cleared from the ECU memory they will continue to display until cleared, even if the fault has been addressed. Always clear the trouble codes after addressing a fault to see if the action was successful. If the fault is still present the DTC will show again."
My nearest dealer is a nine hour round trip away, so it is not convenient to have him reset the ECU with his diagnostic tool/reader, but I cannot verify the problem is solved until the code is reset.
Does anyone know a reset procedure for the GTi 300/ GTi 200s?
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Copied from the on-line pay-to-view cyclepedia service manual for my Kymco LIKE 200i:
With key off.....Kill switch set to RUN position.
Turn key on wait 10 seconds (do NOT start scooter) ....then give it full throttle for 10 seconds then release to fully closed.....after 5 seconds light will blink twice continuously.
After the CELP light goes out the the self-diagnosis memory of the ECU is cleared. If the CELP remains lighted, a trouble code is still present.
I hope this helps. Our LIKE 200i's are electronically fuel injected.
Stig
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Sadly, the Check Engine light is flashin the 4 long and 5 short flashes while holding the throttle open for the 10 seconds, so I suspect the ECU or procedure is different for the GTi 300/200. It is not clearing.
Once the key in On, the Check Engine light keeps repeating the code flash series at least three times.
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Another surefire method for clearing codes on ANY computer-controlled engine is to disconnect the battery ground for 30 or more seconds and then reconnect.
Karl
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Here's how to clear the codes on the Yager;
SELF-DIAGNOSIS RESET (CLEAR
FAILURE CODES) PROCEDURE
(1) Turn ignition switch to OFF, open and
hold the throttle fully.
(2) Turn ignition switch to ON while the
CELP comes on, after 2 seconds the CELP
will be off.
(3) Close the throttle fully when the CELP
comes on again.
(4) When the CELP begins to blink that the
CELP denotes the failure codes.
(5) The self-diagnosis memory data will be
erased when all the failure codes has
showed 5 cycles.
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OK, I found another reset for my Kymco LIKE
The wires shown are found in my battery box:
(http://i60.tinypic.com/2hx2cdf.jpg)
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Thank you all.
I will see what happens. It seems that if it is clearing, it is detecting the O2 Sensor issue before I even start it, as soon as I turn the key to the 'On' position. I do not see any pinched wires or other problems with the wiring, and I will meter the sensor tonight.
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It appears to reset, and within a few moments, triggers the 45 code again. TheO2 Sensor tests out well within the range per the manual, but there does not seem to have a poor connection or pinched wires. I am stumped as to why the code is still triggering.
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Hi, i have kymco downtown 350i 2016. Please help , reset ECM kymco downtown 350i??
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Do what it takes to disconnect the battery for 30 seconds or longer. This will clear all codes in almost any EFI machine. This is assuming the nearest available Kymco analyzer tool is a long ways away and the throttle open-closed technique is ineffective.
Karl
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I tried and it does not work.
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OK, why do you want to do the reset?
Karl
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I bought 350 new downtown and on the way home stopped working turn signals and gone relay. (Flash relay fault) Since then writes me the display error codes 43,44 , and yellow LED lights engine. Service mam too far away. My downtow have 200km :(
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Real new bike with those problems needs to go to the dealer for warranty work.
Karl
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Flash relay've waited 2 months :(
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Most dealers have no Kymco repair parts stock and are not required to have any. Further, most dealers really know nothing about the systems on these things. I have recently done my own warranty work by trouble shooting and identifying the defective part and a dealer got Kymco to send the part. It took a long time to get the part. Welcome to the dealer network!
The fact you still have the codes after the battery reset means you still have the problem. What do codes 43 & 44 mean?
Karl
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5 shows some error codes, 4.5, 43 already ... I do not know the exact number. But it will definitely attached to it flash relay, because they removed these errors are thrown. Otherwise, it is perfectly normal scooter other than direction and everything works. Me again spoke of disconnecting the battery reset has taken place and it is necessary to correctly using a PC or a combination of gas and buttons. And what these codes do not know.
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My video
https://youtu.be/pVS3NGiohlY
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https://youtu.be/pVS3NGiohlY
My video.
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It is difficult to tell what the CELP light is flashing: one long, four short or is it five short? The screen in the center is unreadable except for the larger numbers. So here is what I request: make another youtube video while focusing on the engine light. Get all the flashes of that light. There is no code for 5 and 43 listed in the service manual. I am assuming the DT300i and your 350i are similar enough so one procedure works for both.
Karl
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Where are you located?
Karl
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Slovakia.
My 2 video -- https://youtu.be/NKsXM-jaLzw
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OK, I saw one long and 5 short, followed by 4 long and 3 short. This is quite different signalling than the DT300i. It looks like 15 and 43. I suspect these codes are for the 350i only. We must find a list of codes for the 350i somewhere. I think I saw turn signal work on the rear but not the front, right? Emergency flashers work on the front. Do they work on the back? Looks like not all wiring is hooked up properly and/or some plug-in relays missing or in the wrong places. Relays are generally all identical but the flasher is different while it may have the same connector. There is a "Hazard Controller" that is part of the signal light system. Things won't work right if it is not plugged in.
Slovokia looks like the ideal country for scooters like yours and motorcycles!
Karl
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Were these symptoms present when you bought the machine?
Karl
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200 km journey home, the end of the road broke down rudder and right after that I went to the garage and looked at all the relays in the front. I tried each relay pulled out and looked whether they're good, the errors would have written because I pulled relay? He pulled out the relay and turn on the key. I did not know at first which ones relay blinker.At 0km and rides him did not write any errors.
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When stopped working turn signals, not write errors now and then. When a second when I starte but have yet to try to pull the relay. Their on front 6x relay + 1x flash relay. When the ignition I could write errors in memory when I pulled Some relay?
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You could have written errors IF you pulled the relays with the power on. But I suspect the errors pertain only to the injection system and battery power like the rest of the EFI (Electronic Fuel Injection) bikes and ATV models. I have sent an e-mail to KymcoUSA asking for help on this problem.
I think you said that everything was working properly when you bought the scooter. That would mean something changed on the 200km ride home. Like a plug came unplugged for example.
I used to fly glikers/sailplanes and one of the most interesting was the Blanik two seat. Well made in Chekoslovakia during the cold war.
Karl
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Yes, the store isiel scooter without errors.Injection does not have relays?
History: Tacho ODO
0 km-200 km ok
201km all - wrong turn signals but no error on display
203km - garages, checking relays
203,1km wrong turn signals and errors on display
Now 300 km and mistakes is still on. Flash Relay and once again it is not.
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Yes, fuel injection has relays. I do not think the relays are the problem. I do not think the flasher is the problem. I think the wiring is the problem like in a loose ground or disconnected plugs. Your front signals are in the front fairing unlike the DT300i (US models). Something has vibrated loose, probably in the front. Can you remove the front to inspect? Are you handy with tools and electrical?
Karl
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Once I even try to start when it was disconnected Relay (I forget the disconnected), possible legal injection relay. Not start, then I joined relays and already started up. But the mistake again wrote
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Can you ask your dealer for code meanings? Lets see what the codes mean.
Karl
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Seller knows. I shall ask the importer information for Slovakia. And such information does not give ordinary people.
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Good idea, Denisko. I have gotten nowhere from this end.
Karl
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Problem solved when will I write here
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So today occurred flash relays. Finally!! If only to erase mistakes, then I will inform
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Guess what? I got a response from Eric Kuo from Kymco in Taiwan! He gave me a circuit diagram for the DT300i ABS. I will study it and report back.
Karl
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Yes. Just me would help to Kymco Downtown 350 Flasher relay mounted turn signals operate as they have, yesterday I received the suitcase GIVI 47 and the carrier, if only delete mistakes and I'm happy with.
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Otherwise the PDA cable diagnostics are 3 cables, I read of bridging two cables through the connector to behave reset. Just I do not know who the two
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No, no, Denis! I think that is for the Like model of Kymco. The reset for the 350i would be the same as the 300i I AM GUESSING. The wiring is SO similar except for the ABS. DO NOT short two wires together. Is that from the seller?
Karl
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Reset the Kymco Downtown 300i known. I tried it on Downtown, 350 and does not work. YouTube - Kymco Downtown reset video.Informacia not from the dealer.
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I studied the 350i wiring. Check connection of "hazard controller" may be in rear. May be partly unplugged (disconnected).
Karl
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Also check that both speed sensors are properly mounted. I am guessing the codes are for ABS.
Karl
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So today spraveny reset all been without error the final
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That is great, Denis! What does "spraveny" mean? What is the reset procedure for the 350i?
Karl