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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Super 8 150 => Topic started by: MassScoot on November 10, 2012, 12:50:19 AM
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Well....I'm down in Florida visiting my parents for 9 days. Took delivery of my Super 8 150 in Red/Black/White. Great little scooter for the money. Not broken-in yet (I'm @ 130 miles) Changed the oil @ 100 miles (using Shell Rotella 15W-40W mineral oil (for now) I'll change the gear oil & engine oil again @ 300 miles before I leave. Gear oil...I'm using Mobil Oil Synthetic 75W-90W after 300 miles. I'm shocked I found such a soild price ($10.99) @ Auto Zone of all places.
One thing I would like to mention, is that my scoot kind of bogs down from 5-20MPH a tad. I suspect this is because my engine isn't close to being broken-in yet. It feels like it's straving for fuel, then it normal after 20MPH. The fit & finish is decent, but not on par with my Taiwanese built GT300i. Example: On the side body panel where the White & Red colors meet, there is a decent amount of red paint on the white. The dealer ordered me a new panel with the decals. No real biggie.
For the money I paid, it's a nice choice overall. Can't wait until after 500 miles or so, when she is really broken-in. Aside from the Mirror extenders, Battery Tender Jr. pigtail & the Shad 33-liter case which requires the Kymco SKU# K0SP59ST (Shad Top Box Mount Kit) I'll be keeping it all stock. I also noticed that Kymco is now using CST tires vs. the Cheng-Shin brand. The are just ok, your standard budget hard nylon Chinese tire. I will upgrade down the road.
UPDATE: I'm back home now in New England (sigh...) Anyway, I noticed that as the engine has broke-in, the issue I was having with it bogging-down has started to go away. I left with 430 miles on the Super 8. Will be back down in Feburary.
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Is that a booster seat?
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Ha.....Too funny. No just my Airvent seat cushion (they are out of business now) Kymco's makes one very hard seat. This just takes the edge off.
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That's a huge box on back there.
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I think it looks bigger in the picture then in person myself. It's a Shad 33 liter. The Kymco dealer told me don't go bigger then the 33 liter as it will look too oversized. The nice touch is she ordered it thru Kymco (not Shad direct) & it comes with the backrest standard (usually it's an opition)
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Load that thing up and I bet you could pop some easy wheelies. :D
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Nice pics...Like that airvent cushion too...
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Vivo: Thanks on the Airvent. Too bad they went under because that seat cushion was only $35.00 brand new.
Quick question for you as I know you own a Super 8 in the Philippines. The more I look @ the Super 8 it kind of reminds me of a bigger Yamaha Zuma in some sort of way. Thoughts? Or is it just me.
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Nice scooter. I had a People 150 with a Shad 33.
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I have a 20011 Super 8 and my rear lights are yellow. I wonder why they changed to white? Nice scoot though...I love mine!
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actually, my front turn signal lights are also yellow and on the 2012's they are white...strange that they changed
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Vivo: Thanks on the Airvent. Too bad they went under because that seat cushion was only $35.00 brand new.
Quick question for you as I know you own a Super 8 in the Philippines. The more I look @ the Super 8 it kind of reminds me of a bigger Yamaha Zuma in some sort of way. Thoughts? Or is it just me.
I've always thought of it as a scooter version of the YZF R1.... ;D ;D ;D
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Old Geezer: Looks like you have the optional Shad Red color plate (Nice touch) Also...I don't know why, but as you can see by my pics....the back of my Shad case reflector is white instead of your red. I don't care for the white as much. I think I'll try & find those red plate covers online.
Longanhes: I noticed that as well on the yellow front & tail turn-signals going to white. Again....I would have perfered yellow myself. My bet is it's a cost cutting measure.
Vivo: Good match! I sat on a Yamaha Zuma @ my local dealer & it's simply too small for my frame. The Super 8 is just enough for me @ 6' 230 lbs.
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The white reflector is normally sold in Europe. You don't see them much in the states. But there is a part # for red and a part # for white in each Shad model. I haven't seen where you can get shad parts on line if you find one let us know. I have a friend who is lookind for a reflector.
You can't even get Shad replacement keys. You have to buy a key and lock set and change it out. Its $25.00 from Shad.
I have a Shad SH 40 cargo on my 250.
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OG, that's a nice angle shot of your scoot... :)
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OG: I have always said....The Kymco People S250 was the best looking scooter made currently. I think it blows away (looks wise) my current GT300i myself.
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Thanks. What you can do on the clear reflector and it is clear it just has a silver piece of paper behind it, is take it off and paint the back side with some bright red paint. Works fairly well.
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Old Geezer: I called Shad a few minutes ago & they said last year they changed the reflector from Red to White. I found my Red color change panels here:
http://scootershop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=&products_id=13251&osCsid=aqrbxrsiirl (http://scootershop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=&products_id=13251&osCsid=aqrbxrsiirl)
I purchased it direct from Shad for $48.00 & free shipping. It's an exact paint match to my Kymco Super 8 @ my parents home. Just an FYI.
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...booster seat...lmao!!!!
..awesome scoot, mass!!
..the super8 seats are their only downfall...
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..just continue letting her break in for a bit...
..it only gets better........
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Wordslinger: I hear you! Kymco always makes their seats too hard! Even on my GT300i & before that my People S200. I'm heading down to see my parents this coming Tuesday (2/5) to Florida to buzz around on my Super 8 150cc, that I keep down there. My father started-up my Super 8 last week & it kicked-over on the first pass. That's good news. I load it-up with Seafoam, Stabil & fuel ethanol stabilizer (StarBrite) before I leave for a few months. It will be great to leave sub-20 degree weather as of late. My home-based scooter is in storage & I haven't been on a scoot for 3 months! Can't wait! I wished I lived in a area that I could scoot all of the time...but I don't.
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Thanks. What you can do on the clear reflector and it is clear it just has a silver piece of paper behind it, is take it off and paint the back side with some bright red paint. Works fairly well.
I just bought a Shad SH40 Cargo top case for my GTI300. It came with a silver reflector. I took it apart and used the silver reflector as a template. I went to Pep Boys and bought some 3M red reflective tape. I covered the silver, trimmed the edges, and put it back together. Looks great and cost about $5.00.
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OG: So...You purchased a GT300i? Nice job! What did you do with your S250? Sell it? What color did you get? Let me guess...Black? Or maybe Silver like me? I guess you didn't like the supplied top case? I'm still using the Kymco case myself. I may upgrade down the road.
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Guys...A little update. I was having a problem with my carb on the Super 8. Brought it to the dealer & he fixed it within a half an hour (@ Kymco's expense) It was one of the jets that was clogged. Anyway...The dealer also sells SYM. She has a 2012 HD200 & would sell it for $3100.00 & would give me $2,000 for my Super 8 (bought it from them in November) I took it for a test spin & I must admit it's night & day! 15.3HP vs. the Super 8's 9.39HP. Plus...It's water cooled & has rear disc brakes. I think I may pull the trigger on it today. I really like the Super 8, but I'm chubby @ 6' & 230 lbs. & the SYM HD200 feels like it "fits" me better.
http://alliancepowersports.com/models/HD_photos.html (http://alliancepowersports.com/models/HD_photos.html)
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Guys...A little update. I was having a problem with my carb on the Super 8. Brought it to the dealer & he fixed it within a half an hour (@ Kymco's expense) It was one of the jets that was clogged. Anyway...The dealer also sells SYM. She has a 2012 HD200 & would sell it for $3100.00 & would give me $2,000 for my Super 8 (bought it from them in November) I took it for a test spin & I must admit it's night & day! 15.3HP vs. the Super 8's 9.39HP. Plus...It's water cooled & has rear disc brakes. I think I may pull the trigger on it today. I really like the Super 8, but I'm chubby @ 6' & 230 lbs. & the SYM HD200 feels like it "fits" me better.
http://alliancepowersports.com/models/HD_photos.html (http://alliancepowersports.com/models/HD_photos.html)
Is the SYM a leftover or used. At that price if it's a leftover it's cheap. The super 8and the SYM are completely different animals. I rode the SYM and loved it.
If its a leftover at that price buy it, or I will I.
Be Big,
AMAC
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it's a leftover still in it's create. It's a Charcoal color (not my favorite. Red is my color) Retail is $3499.00, but she (owner) charges $100.00 for freight, but no other fees. So...It would cost me $3200.00 plus Florida tax. They are closed Sunday & Monday. I'll make my final decision on Tuesday. It's a great deal, but keep in mind that use the scooter 4 times a year when I visit my parents. I would love the extra power & I love 16" wheels. I must admit the Super 8 is still the best deal for a respectable 150cc scooter even though they bumped-up the retail price $100.00 to $2499.00 for 2013.
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Guys...I decided to keep the Super 8. The dealer had a buyer lined-up to purchase (on consignment) my 2013 S8 w/ appx. 500 miles on her. Then, the person wanted a brand new one or so the dealer says. I think the dealer talked in the buyer into buying new so they could make some more money myself. Then the dealer offered me $1600.00, then I said no way. Considering I bought the S8 in November, I didn't want to lose that much coin, plus I use it scooter like 4 times a year when I'm down in Florida.
Oh well....The SYM HD200 would have been nice, but I'm still very happy with my Super 8.
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Wow this thread is in the grave but I'm glad you guys love the S8 because I just picked one up last week and she is lovely. It feels like she runs stronger each day. I currently have 140 miles on her but will begin my commute to work with her soon. Excited!
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I just got her last week and she seems to be running stinger each day! 😊. The only major hiccup I've had was the headlights! They went out during one of my last commutes. I had to reset the bike 😕
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That's a cool looking color. I like it.
search around the forum for Head Light issues. You will find a bucket load of them. They use a "module" that controlls the headlight. Finding the fixes for that now will help you later.
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Quick question, I know it's random but what psi do you S8 150 use in your stock tires ?
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The max inflation is marked on the sidewall of the tire. The service manual will have the recommended values for single rider, and one passenger.
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That's a cool looking color. I like it.
search around the forum for Head Light issues. You will find a bucket load of them. They use a "module" that controlls the headlight. Finding the fixes for that now will help you later.
I see, thank you Zombie. I guess ill see what my dealer says about it. that should definitely be covered under warranty, however I wish I could get them to stay fully on and get the little light bulbs to turn on as well without voiding my warranty :/ .
I just hope she holds up because my commute consists of a solid 50 mph drive for like 15 minutes. can that harm the engine ? i try to vary the speed but I HAVE FAITH IN DA SUPA lol i feel like I have created this bond with it lol is that weird?
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Quick question, I know it's random but what psi do you S8 150 use in your stock tires ?
Oh i knew that BUT do you guys that have this same bike find that it rides optimal with both tires at (32psi) like the tire wall says? :/ im trying to get the best fuel economy i can without sacrificing speed ;D if thats even possible lol
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You will have to vary rpm to properly seat the rings. I've opened thousands of engines, and almost 80% (guessing) have "blow by" markings on the pistons. this usually only happens from improper break in.
Just vary the rpm for the first 200 miles, and all should be good.
By little lights do you mean the cowl lights? The OEM space for the front blinkers?
Lots of people here have done this mod, and there are never any issues.
The modulator is another ball of wax. The bypass used by many here is NOT a Kymco OEM type thing. The dealer MAY give you grief if you modify that, so I would let them handle that issue. Maybe go ahead, and buy a second module to carry if you have to ride after dark. Or at least a big, bright light to get you home in case of a failure.
For the tires... I ride in a 1-2 mile "loop" around a station w/ an air pump, and experiment. Varied terain/curves/straights ect. That way you can always air up if you go too low. 30psi plus or minus 4 is about the limits of what you want to try. Most find a couple less in the front to suit them best.
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Max psi will be good for mpg and top speed! Not good for rain however. Also just make sure you change and check your oil frequently, I've had customers blow up their super 8 from extended high speed and low oil. 50mph actual speed is getting pretty close to the top.
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Nice! Great info guys. You have steered me in the right direction! Thanks. I am going to get a service quote from the dealer on that oil change if not I'll do it myself. And my tires are 31.5 in front and 32 in back. I guess that'll do.
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😳 and I hope I don't blow her up. I might have to upgrade since my commute is pretty much a straight run for 20 some minutes.
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IMHO your best bet will be in opening up the airbox, and switching to a larger carb. That will allow more fuel/air/power, and equal less throttle. You have somenting around a 28-30mm cvk carb. going up to a 32-34 will do the trick
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IMHO your best bet will be in opening up the airbox, and switching to a larger carb. That will allow more fuel/air/power, and equal less throttle. You have somenting around a 28-30mm cvk carb. going up to a 32-34 will do the trick
NICE!! thats good to know and something i am looking forward to doing ;D its exciting since in not too mechanically experienced, lol if that makes sense. But OMG i got Soooo lost on my way home to day it was ridiculous, because it was all ups and downs twists and turns! and it was dark. I definitely need to atleast upgrade my bulbs to Sylvania Platinums :/ but yeah i think thats a great project to take on. are there any specific write ups you may know of for this particular bike sir? and would I have to upgrade Intake and exhaust? I wish to keep it as stock as possible; however I will do what i have to to make it reliable.
Also, (since i have your attention, which i appreciate) is it ok to do my first gear and engine oil changes between 300 - 400 miles (which i currently have on it)? or did I wait too long? and will it void my manufacturer warranty?
Thanks So Much!!
BTW I finally invested in a decent Joe Rocket helmet today which i caught on sale and it helped so much on my way home, I can do a review if you guys are interested idk... Im just frunning my mouth lol, I do that when it gets late (weird i know lol)
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Headlights I can't really help with. I have an old Harley light on one bike, and a pair of projection lamps w/ LEDS on another.
I never really cared about quality lights cause to me they all suck.
For the oil changes... It's no issue. the break in oil is pretty weak so the sooner the better but no issue.
I run Napa 90wt synthetic in all my gear cases. Including marine.
Full synth for the engine of any brand is about the best you can ever do. Regular car oil. No need for motorcycle specific stuff cause these aren't motorcycles.
For the helmet... Kudos!
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Nice ok, I did my first engine and gear oil change today and it was pretty simple and straight forward
And it was a nice day to ride, everyone was out today!
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And I guess I'll try something like royal purple on my next oil change
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I've never used it but have only heard spectacular reports on it. Nice choice!
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Question. How can I Keep my Engine temp down? I'm afraid of ruining it by running it at 50 Mph for miles. I saw an engine scoop online but idk if that will work. Should I modify the air box or something. Idk
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Those "shroud scoops" DO WORK!
I very highly recommend it. Same for performance fans. They make a HUGE difference.
The proof I have is I had to make a backing ring to hold my scoop on. It constantly tore the mounting screws off over 50 mph. It re directs a huge amount of air into the fan.
Also I built a fiberglass "belly pan", and cut the plastic out of the area directly behind the front wheel. This forces the airflow directly at the engine.
Look thru this thread... Pages 9/15/19 I think show what I did. Also drilling out your CVT cover to get some REAL air in there take away an enormous amount of heat.
The proof of all this is a reduction of nearly 125*f in the exhaust gas temp gauge. By cooling the entire engine it brought down the cylinder temps.
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Wow!!!! Mann Zombie you are the MAN!!!!!!
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I plan on getting that scoop within the next few weeks, I've zeroed my throttle play and adjusted the idle a bit she's A lot more responsive and less jerky. I want to upgrade as much as possible without loosing warranty. That scoop should be a good choice. Unless I can fabricate something 😳
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Oddly enough a Tupperware bowl works great. If you have the cutting tools a Stainless salad bowl is another cool choice.
The key is to make a metal backing ring (stainless/aluminum), and install the bolts/machine screws from the fan side, and Nylok nuts on the outside w/ decent size flat washers. I used the rim off of a stainless bowl for that ring, and 4 number eight Carriage bolts. Areomyst gave me the scoop. I just cut the center strut out of it, along w/ all the factory grill from the plastic engine shroud. (Heaven forbid a squirrel jumps in there.)
Aim the scoop slightly down toward the road NOT at 90* but more like 120* from 0. The road surface creates a barrier that the air can not push away from.
No worries in the rain either. I have an inner rotor set up, and water does not/can not accumulate due to the velocity in there.
I know... This stuff is soooooo cooool!
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Nice!!! Exactly the info I was looking for. I too was wondering about the rain. And I'm glad
You said point in to the ground a bit because that's what makes
More sense to me since
Most of the air would seem to be coming from the side up. And I guess if a squirrel was unlucky enough to jump in, it would become a Zombie Squirrel 😂
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Only if I kissed it! :-* ;D ;D ;D
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LMAO!!!
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Me too Amaro... Trust me!
I love this forum. Nothing but good people. ;)
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I know, I see!! I'm glad I can always find help here. I look forward to customizing my scoot when I get some money. Good to have people who know what they're talking about. ðŸ˜
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Aaaaaaand two Years later and almost 5,000 miles on her. Shes running along. Im going to dive into some valve adjustments next week. For the first time in 5k miles [emoji28]
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Besides some battery issues and a broken kick starter. She's running pretty good! Just lost about 5-10 mph but hopefully I can clear that up with a valve adjustment
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Yeah the valve adjustment will definitely improve your performance. Your Super should sound more "throaty" after the adjustment. Valves tend to close over time and the adjustment will help her breath better with less engine heat. The most difficult part for me is getting the gap juuust right. :)
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Thanks for the reassurance, I look mforward forward foto digging in. Im holding off until i have a torque wrench
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Hello fellas! Me and my Raine saying "Mabuhay" from the Philippines! :D
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Hello fellas! Me and my Raine saying "Mabuhay" from the Philippines! :D
I really like what you did with your gauges and handle bars, how did you do the conversion to normal bars, doyou have some phots of the process?
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Thanks, Californiaman! Hope you are able to see the full album of the conversion:
https://www.facebook.com/dan.aquino.3152/media_set?set=a.10152053226312170.1073741832.818327169&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/dan.aquino.3152/media_set?set=a.10152053226312170.1073741832.818327169&type=3)
In case you aren't able to see the link, here are a few photos.
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The speedo gauge wouldn't be too accurate for some reason, though... but it works! :D
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na i could not view the link. thanks for the pics! getting a but tired of what the scooty looks like stock. so im gathering ideas!