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Offroad => Side By Side => Topic started by: jw_334 on September 12, 2014, 11:11:51 PM
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Hi everybody. My name is Jason and I am brand new to the site. I am also brand new to Kymco Machines. I don't even own one yet. But I believe I will. I was just wondering if anybody has any experience with the 450I. Love the price point. Is it way under powered? I don't really need a whole load of power most everything I will be doing with it will be centered around hunting, low speed trail riding and a little work on a small hobby farm. thanks for any info you can give.
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I was also looking at the 500 for the same price ($7,999). Will not having fuel injection make that big of a difference?
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Hi Jason,
I wish I had some direct answers for you but do not.
I just wanted to say welcome to the forum.
One thing I can say is having injection is a blessing on off road vehicles. No more mal-adjusted floats, or tweaking the carb every other time you ride.
Keep clean filters, a spare injector in a zip baggie and you are always good to go.
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I have had mine for three weeks. Love it. Will outrun a 500 all day, and the 700 out to 35. It's a mountain goat as well
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You want fuel injection
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Top speed is 48 mph, plenty of power with perfect clutching
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I have owned a 500SEi for one year (300mi) It is everything I expected from a side by side. I have definitely enjoyed the 500.
While there are always things you want done differently I really like the ability of the UXV 500. To list a few: Ability, ground clearence, storage compartments, size and stability.
I have already had a look at the new 450. It has some features that I would like to see on the 500. My two favorites are the bench seat and the location of the shift lever. The only issues I have with the 450 is the ground clearance and the the smaller storage compartments. I personally like the look of the 500 over the 450. But it apparently is faster according to my dealer and just a capable as the 500.
you can't go wrong with the Kymco
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Thanks for the replies everybody. Lots of great info...
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We try Jw...
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Love my 450, amazing what it will do
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The uxv 450 is very nice with a great price point. Everyone we have sold the customer has been happy with it.
Faster than the 500i
Less Engine noise than the 500i and 700i (big plus, the 500 can get noisy with a top and windshield.
48mph top speed
we have had problems with spark plug fouling out on short trips.. any have a cure for this? I order some iridium plugs to see if that will help.
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The Iridium plug is about the only thing you can do short of reprogramming the ECU or verifying the system is metered/adjusted correctly.
If it is fouling from fuel there may be a mal adjustment in the system. It it is oil fouling you may have a mechanical issue like a poorly seated ring(s) , leaking valve guides ect.
If it's under warranty I would ask to have it all gone thru to find the problem.
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Good morning
Just found this forum and am anxious to hear anything about the utv 450i also.
Husband is VERY leery of buying anything from Taiwan (Chinese is a definite NO) Was also looking at Kawasaki Mule 610 4x4 but not impressed with 6.7 inch clearance and not having rear independent suspension. I will be the main user. Have 75 acres mostly wooded and uneven terrain, plus hauling feed and cleaning out chicken house . Any input on the longevity of the Kymco vehicles would also be appreciated.
Thank you
Judy
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There are not a lot of UXV owners here but the ones that are are happy.
Kymco has made a name for themselves in the global market by producing good vehicles at very fair prices.
Look up their history, and you will see that they started of by manufacturing engines for Honda. They are much higher quality than ALL of the China junk, and you will also find that Kymco is manufacturing engines for BMW, and Kawasaki today.
Just because some of their production is now based in China, it does not mean these are China bikes.
Hang around the forum, and search the net for Kymco. It's a strong company.
Welcome to the forum!!!
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Thanks so much for reply -plan on test driving one this weekend
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Please let us know what you think, and how it goes. It will help the next person looking.
Dealer reviews are very helpful as well.
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I to would like to know what you think. I also just found this site and looking at possibly buying a Kymco.
A question to the loyal readers. I am an old man with back issues. Have rode in the mule and it is way to rough. Rode in a Polaris but on fixed income so it is ruled out. My question is how is the ride?
Thanks in advance
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My father has owned a Kymco UXV 500 for about 5 years now. We use it on our farm to check cows, spray fence lines, pull a 6x12 trailer etc. Never have had an issue with it in over 5 years! When you put a top on it and a windshield the cab noise is pretty loud. The only other down side is accessories are not readily available. Kymco has a decent top and windshield for this unit but I don't recommend the soft cab enclosure. The zippers are difficult at best.
In October 2014 I bought a Kymco UXV 450i LE (50th Anniversary Edition). So far a great unit with plenty of power and easily does 35 mph. Of course a 700i would be much better but the 450i is quite surprising. Also use it to check cows, fences, pull a 6x12 trailer, etc. I like the fact its slightly smaller in size and a little more agile and sporty. I chose the unit because I was contemplating another 4 wheeler and the 450i was my compromise with best of both worlds. There are a few down sides to the 450i. The cab compartment is a little tight getting in and you'll bump your knee almost every time getting out or setting the parking brake (I'm 6' tall). The 450i has a tilt wheel. However, I am not sure how well its gonna work when a windshield is added because when you tilt it all the way forward the steering wheel passes the front of the roll cage where the windshield would attach. Speaking of windshields...I have tried to get one for my unit, called two dealers, and I was told the other day it would be May 2015 or later before they would be available...really?!?!...frustrating Kymco!
I recommend Kymco UXV's but they need to step their game up a little for accessories etc. Massimo and other same price point units are beginning to look more and more like a competitive option.
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I haven't heard of anything for the plexiglass windshields either. The hard plastic tops are in.
We have the glass windshield and the hard top for the 450i in stock. only $1299 ;D
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Yeah I've been told my windshield will be here every month since last September. They need to step it up. Another issue I am having is front end rattling. One is from the steering wheel bushing, the other is metallic and annoying as hell somewhere in the front between 5-15 mph. Only started happening after about 150 miles. It echoes through the roll cage and I cannot find the source.
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Also, everyone check their diffs, mine came empty from the factory and had to be replaced under warranty :(
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Some dealers are better than others. There is no excuse for the windscreen.
For the rattle??? I'd bring the machine back on a trailer, and demand they repair the noises, and install the screen within the week or you go to war.
See how a simple bit of lazy, creates it's own issues?
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Some dealers are better than others. There is no excuse for the windscreen.
For the rattle??? I'd bring the machine back on a trailer, and demand they repair the noises, and install the screen within the week or you go to war.
See how a simple bit of lazy, creates it's own issues?
Well they cannot install something they have never received. This isn't a dealer issue. It is a KYMCO issue.
rattles are not covered under warranty, although they should give it a good look over.
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Recently ordered me a 2015 Kymco UXV 450i. Can't wait for it's arrival. I'm glad to see a forum for other owners as there is not a lot of info or reviews on these machines yet. How does everyone like theirs so far???
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we just got ours a 2015 450i 50th anniversary model it is my wifes her and the granddaughter love it only have 100 or so miles
on it and so far no problems
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Good morning
Just found this forum and am anxious to hear anything about the utv 450i also.
Husband is VERY leery of buying anything from Taiwan (Chinese is a definite NO) Was also looking at Kawasaki Mule 610 4x4 but not impressed with 6.7 inch clearance and not having rear independent suspension. I will be the main user. Have 75 acres mostly wooded and uneven terrain, plus hauling feed and cleaning out chicken house . Any input on the longevity of the Kymco vehicles would also be appreciated.
Thank you
Judy
Don't hesitate to buy KYMCO. As mentioned, very reputable companies trust them to build quality parts and vehicles for them, they also build the Arctic Cat Trail/Sport. Very good machines.
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Brand new to this forum. Just got my UXV 450i yesterday.
I have never been a boy with toys. Never owned a four wheeler, or a boat, or a snowsled, or any of that kind of thing; not in my whole life. Never could justify that kind of expense when there were other family needs. But my wife said it was time to pay myself back a bit (bless her), so we bought one yesterday.
I wanted something comfortable to ride so that old farts could toodle around on the ATV trails that run along the back edge of my property. Might as well use it, since it's on my land. I had no idea the ATV trails in Maine were so extensive. Anyway, I debated for a few agonizing weeks on what to buy and finally settled on the 450i really because it was an easy fit for the back of my pickup. The dealer said bigger machines would give me more top-end speed that, as a novice, I probably didn't need. I think he was right. Also, my neighbor has had a very good experience with a pair of Kymco scooters, so I wasn't afraid of the brand.
First impressions: This rig has PLENTY of power; and has more get-up-n-go than some bigger motor SxS's in my neighborhood. Top-end, they can beat me, but I get off the line faster; and 48 mph is plenty fast enough for me. I'm not out to kill myself. My wife and I have been driving all over our road and having a blast. My only issue with this rig, so far, is that the shifter. It seems upside down to my brain. Not sure why that is.
Anyone know if this will take the same Warn plate as the 500-series? I'm thinking a plow would help me justify the expense :)
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I can't answer your question but I had to say your tale is heart warming.
It's nice to hear that someone somewhere is happy with something. There are a few web sites that the other UXV owners will be happy to share for getting accessories, and I'm 100% sure that a good fabricator can adapt anything you like to fit your machine.
For the shifter... I have an easy cure.
Turn the number plate around. I re-arranged all the keys on my keyboard, and almost had a stroke. It kept me busy for three days tho.
Enjoy the machine, and the forum. Best to ya!
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hello all, new to forum and to Kymco
just acquired a 2015 UXV450i for my land surveying business. I've had it 2 weeks and already have 110 miles on it. I have it dual registered for both street and off road
questions I have is for things I do not see in accessory catalogs, most specifically conveniences for street use like turn signals and pigtail for trailer lights as I will probably get more street use than off road use
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Would love to hear what you think after your test drive. I've only had mine two weeks and love it. Had it in the woods and trails today for the first time. It's a little beast! If it will hold up without a lot of maintenance problems, I think Kymco has hit a home run with the 450 I.
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Offroadbodyarmor.com
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Hey you 450i owners....any updates to your machines? Problems, upgrades, etc...long winter and cabin fever is setting in, would like to hear more from 450i owners... I bought one the middle of January and love it so far. Due to the limited accessories I have been making some of my own such as my own windshield, plow mount (frame), added the winch, some rearview mirrors and coated the underside with some mud....having fun!!
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Just joined the site, I have had the UXV 450i since aug 2014, My local Honda dealer became a rep, and I purchased the first one. The little UXV that could.... I have since outfitted it with a Warn 3500 winch, LED Light bars,(which by the way, increase the battery size) they will flicker with the stock battery, When I bought mine, Kymco offered no accessories... I made a windshield from lexan and Aluminium angle. also installed an after market roof.. The bike has treated me well, I use it for hunting mostly... My Grandson drives the heck out of it. I also installed a plow setup from Cabelas this year. Pushed the snow around perfectly. The only issue with the UXV is the ground clearance, but the fix for that was increasing the the spring tension on the shocks. It made it ride higher, but i sacrificed the softer ride. Overall, its a keeper.... (http://)
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SuperHeliDave....welcome aboard, glad you like your 450i. New guy here as well, bought mine about a month back and so far so good. I did a lot of research before I decided and test drove a number of UTV's at least the dealers that allowed test drives and I felt the 450i had the best ride/quietness of all I tested. Even talked to the factory about problems with this model and there reply was almost negligible in complaints other than lack of accessories and the shifter complaint. I also made my windshields from polycarbonate sheet, both a half and an upper for winter plowing which will come off when it warms up. My dealer ordered a quad boss plow kit which is a great plow but the universal mounting kit is a complete joke. As a toolmaker I made my own mount that attaches to my frame, just putting the finishing touches on it now. I just did the first oil change and differential gear oil change, switched to all synthetics thru out. Mine came with the factory roof, a little pricey but looks good. Still trying to find a factory service manual in case any future repairs may be needed, but not having much luck yet.
I am semi-retired and this is my retirement present to myself. My grandkids were not happy about me getting rid of my ATV's in favor of the UTV.....but now that they have had a chance to play with it....they are glad I made the switch, the UTV is so much more versatile and just plain fun. Please do keep us posted on how things progress with your 450i and I will do the same, this goes for any other 450i owners out there.
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Thanks, I also made the mount for the plow, works great.... The UTV has treated me great,,,
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Our machines are the same color, heck even have the same mud and dirt on the rear taillights!! LOL Your top looks different, not sure if aftermarket or whether Kymco changed the tops, mine was a factory top with the "Kymco" name embossed in the plastic top.
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Mine is aftermarket, they did not have any accessories when i bought it. I even had to make the winch mounts.. even with all that, that sxs still is amazing.
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We've had ours since Oct 2014. We have 4200 miles on it with little to no trouble. We bought a soft surround by mammoth designs and it works great. You have to modify the back curtain just a little to fit the factory roof. Overall , it's a great little machine.
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How'd the test drive go with the 450? My family has been selling the Kymco brand for over 10 years now in a small town in Missouri, and we have nothing but great success with everything they make from the scooters, Atv's and especially the Utv's as of lately since they are becoming so popular. We also sell Arctic Cat which Kymco makes many vehicles for. When we have an arctic cat sitting next to a kymco thats the same vehicle but 2k cheaper. It's really a no brainer.
We were tired of having to wait for accessories though to come out for them which is why I started creating some accessories myself like the front and rear guards for the Kymco UXV 450i. Feel free to check them out at offroadbodyarmor.com
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If your family is selling the Kymco brand, how can we get our hands on a factory service manual for the 450i UTV. I am getting no response from "cyclepedia" so far, they do not list it in there site and have not responded to emails. As a dealer do you have any suggestions? Thanks
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Airshot- unfortunately the service manuals are online and are confidential to dealers only for some reason. I couldn't tell you the reason behind it. If you are asking about an owners manual you should have gotten one when you bought the vehicle. A dealer should be able to replace it no problem if it got lost.
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Factory service manual is what I am looking for, I have them for all the toys and equipment I own. Makes a repair so much easier and you know the correct parts #'s and procedures. I see a lot of Kymco owners are asking about windshields, how about making your own? I did and the job looks great. Just order a sheet of polycarbonate plastic 1/4" thick. That is the stuff that does not break, easy to work with. I used a "roto-zip" cutting tool to cut mine and it went thru it like butter. Took the piece of plastic to a local sheet metal fab shop and they put a 45 degree bend along the top and bottom for rigidity then clamped it to the roll cage and traced the outline with a sharpie. Used the roto-zip to cut it out then sanded the edges with a power sander and purchased windshield clamps in stainless steel of E-bay. I also added a 3/4" aluminum angle across the windshield for added stability, because when your clicking along at 40 mph the wind makes it bow in. I looked at the factory windshields and they have a metal stiffener added as well. I made a half windshield to stay on all year and a removable top half for the cold winter. Looks great and works great....total cost right at 200 bucks.....a lot better than 400+
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Can someone in the Kymco service world tell me why it is so freakin hard to shift my 450i, took it to the dealer and they say they lubed it, still a pain in the arse to shift. Has been since I bought it, and now the warranty is out..
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That is the only downfall I have ever found on this machine. I knew it before I purchased mine thru my research. I have talked directly with the SC factory rep and was told it is because they have spring loaded the shift forks to keep the gears from slipping. It was recommended to "lightly" tap the throttle while moving the shift lever back and forth and this normally allows the release of the shift fork. I have learned to do this almost second nature and has improved my shifting greatly. Do NOT hold the throttle down just a lite tap to slightly increase the rpm then back off, as the rpm drops down the shift fork releases. The service tech at there factory was quite nice and went into great detail about there engineering put into this machine to make it bullet proof. I am still just waiting for the factory service manuals to come out. I have my order in but they are not completed yet as the publisher has just now received a machine to take apart to create the manual. Demand has been so high they have not had an extra one to send out. Good story ....hope its true!!
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Thanks for the reply.. Yeah I kinda figured that out the hard way, you are correct, it is the only drawback to this machine. Thank you for the info....
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The only issue with the UXV is the ground clearance, but the fix for that was increasing the the spring tension on the shocks. It made it ride higher, but i sacrificed the softer ride. Overall, its a keeper.... (http://)
Just curious how much did you raise it up? I thought the ground clearance was good, same as my former atv and I see the adjustable shocks but wondered just how far you went up..
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I only really need it when the plow is hooked up, otherwise, yes it was good. It went up 2.5 inches.but the ride is harsh without the plow wieght.
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Hello guys, first time writing on this forum and i am full of questions.
I hope that with some answers directly from you,the owners,
I may decide to obtain one for myself too, hopefully.
I have been looking for specifications,reviews and test rides for the uxv 450i for some months now.
But its a new model and i do not seem to find specific information about the fuel consumption (on road mainly, it can be legally driven in my area)
Any information about how dangerous it gets when turning around close turns
(i noticed a big angle and quite a leaning while watching a video) would be helpful too.
Does anyone use it for on road driving or just in farms?
Any figures about fuel consumption?
Everything would be useful (mpg, km/lt, lt/100km).
Thanks for your time.
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Well I have only had mine since Jan 2016 so I only have 200 miles on it and so far so good. From all the different makes that I test drove, the Kymco gave the best ride. It could be considered a bit tippy but the shocks are adjustable to that could easily be stiffened up. Cornering at reasonable speed is not a problem as is. It doesn't turn real sharp so that may have something to do with that. Many mfgs of SxS require premium fuel but Kymco only needs reg fuel. I actually drained and filled my fuel tank to check fuel economy but only have 35 miles on this tank so far but based on fuel gage estimates it appears to be getting 20-22 mpg with some off road and on road running. If run on the street remember this engine runs at 7500 rpm at top speed so if you run 45 mph your engine is near top rpm so fuel mileage will suffer. Mine tops out at 49mph as the rev limiter kicks in at that speed. You would want some street tires for on road riding as the knobby off road tires can get noisy on pavement and will wear quickly. I do like the smaller size of the machine, I am only 5'6" and it fits me better than the larger machines, horsepower to weight ratio makes it quicker than its bigger brothers off the line up to about 30 mph, then the bigger engines take over but not by much. If you have anything you would like to know feel free to ask.
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Thanks for he info!
Even though i am very glad when you say its a smooth ride overall,
i am very dissapointed with the fuel economy. :'(
I expected something much better.
If it gives in deed 22mpg, which means more than 10lt/100km, then its far more demanding than a medium family car of 1600cc!!!
I do not own anything else and i planned to use it as an everyday vehicle for town-work-farm-beach and I hoped for a lot less.
Of course i understand that its a fun-utility vehicle but it will turn out to be very-very expensive to run in my country...
And i must add that i am a quite defensive driver with smooth accelerations and cool way if driving, avoiding high speeds.
Please keep track of the consumption as the miles go by, which hopefully will decrease, but lets be honest, how much less?
I am planning to take one for a test ride,as the first one was just for a few hundred meters,
and i hope i will be able to check the consumption in detail.
But if anyone else has any numbers to add i would be grateful!
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Keep in mind these are geared for OFF road use not highway use. They are geared to have power for climbing hills and towing, NO overdrive like you car has. Remember also the engine is running at wide open throttle at 48 mph, would kind of fuel economy would your car get if you ran the engine at wide open throttle going down the road? I believe your thinking behind the use of this machine is in the wrong direction. If you looking for good fuel economy go to a scooter and get 100 mpg, not an off road vehicle.
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In my area it is shown as an on-road vehicle with turn signals etc
and limited horse power (22hp) and highest speed at 30mph!
Like a tourist buggy for rent-a-bike businesses someone could assume.
So I thought maybe it is kind of cheap to drive too.
Probably it has a switch or something that enables you to choose between two types of driving.
I hope that the on road selection could be more friendly with the fuel and the whole gearing and driving style.
At he end of June/beginning of July I will be able to test one myself on a local dealer.
Then I hope i will be able to share some information too!
Maybe you are right and i have missed the whole philosophy of the uxv
but I really want to check its possibilities of matching my needs.
But I just do not like scooters.
I need something with four wheels, sturdy, light, easy to get on and off, small to drive around a small town,
capable of carrying things, entering farms and fields,plus reliable, backed up from a well known brand and of course sold in my area.
This vehicle seems to offer everything I need, even though it is not manufactured for my kind of use!
Plus it is a beauty to look at!
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Dan 4x4 .....what you describe is not availiable in my part of the country, only the off road version and a turf version for golf courses. My unit comes with a fuel injected, 4 valve high performance 36 hp engine that does just shy of 50 mph. I am quite sure the unit you speak of will do much better in fuel economy with only 22hp and designed for road use. I hear ya on the scooters.....I much prefer 4 wheels myself, at least I have some protection from other crazy drivers. Let us know what you find out.....
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On the street, I am getting 40+mpg, I filled the tank when I bought it, and with 110 miles it took only 2½ gallons to top off the tank,
I generally don't keep the engine pinned, 35-40mph is plenty fast and it takes a whole lot less throttle
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That's the one!
Yes, only the turf version (are the tyres the only difference?)
is available here (and only the green colour),
but probably the law for on-road 4-wheelers that are no cars,forces these kind of vehicles to perform at 20ps max.
I just checked the site and it is the same case for the uxv 700 too! Max 20ps for each one, not even 22ps (i was wrong before).
So it is the turf version with turn/alarm signals and a speed cutter or
something like of modification for using it by selection on the road, i guess.
But the new information is sparking my dream up for good!
If randyo can get a 40+ mpg (i hope you mean the US gallon=3,785lt, then its approximately 6lt/100km)
that is sure fine for me!
Bring it on!
Probably airshot's right foot is heavier than randyo's. No offence guys!
Thanks for the info.If you have any more numbers I would be glad to read.
p.s. when I did the first mini test-ride i was very impressed by the easiness of getting on and off the vehicle and
the way my body clicked inside the cabin,on the bench.I was thinking "All right, nice...that's the spirit!"
As if i owned the uxv for years and i was already used to it.
That is very important for people with spine problems.
The easy access and the vertical way of seating on a chair, car e.t.c.
As far as the protection from the crazy drivers out there...i could not agree more.