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How far is to far?
« on: May 23, 2014, 04:06:42 PM »
How hard do you push your scooter or motorcycle? Does anyone feel this is bad or harmful to push one as long as your below the redline? Personally I run my S9 below the red line most of the time and occasionally right at the red line (rev limiter is not removed) and I feel that its not to much of a strain on the motor.
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Re: How far is to far?
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2014, 04:25:09 PM »
Under redline I'd run it till the body can take no more.
Ifs that's not the case ya got the wrong scoot !

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Re: How far is to far?
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2014, 05:32:40 PM »
Common sense says that the higher you keep the rpm's, there will be more wear. Four stroke or 2 stroke both wear. It's been my experience from building and racing both 4 stroke and 2 stroke motorcycles, that 2 strokes don't like prolonged high rpm's at or near redline.

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Re: How far is to far?
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2014, 06:46:39 PM »
I don't have an RPM gage on my peoples 200 but at top speed you can hear the eng. sound like she's tripping over herself (that's the only way I can explain it), sounds like over reving but I've never hit a limiter assuming I have one on my scoot.

I always back off a few MPH and she seems to be more comfortable. Now on a better built eng. like an outboard motor which will run all day at top rpm.
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Re: How far is to far?
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2014, 06:51:00 PM »
How hard do you push your scooter or motorcycle? Does anyone feel this is bad or harmful to push one as long as your below the redline? Personally I run my S9 below the red line most of the time and occasionally right at the red line (rev limiter is not removed) and I feel that its not to much of a strain on the motor.
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Re: How far is to far?
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2014, 08:06:29 PM »
I don't mind running four strokes at redline as long as the engine oil has had time to rise to operating temperature. When the oil is warm and flowing everywhere, there is a minimum of wear.

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Re: How far is to far?
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2014, 08:13:08 PM »
Well keep in mind its 50cc 2 stroke liquid cooled so it redlines (8000rpm) at about 45 to 50 mph (I usually only go about 35 40 and run at 6500 to 7000rpm). I assume thats normal? My current setup is all stock except my boss drive.
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Re: How far is to far?
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2014, 02:14:51 AM »
X2 I just injoy rideing at a good pase.but yet again I love the speed of ,45 or better.

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Re: How far is to far?
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2014, 12:10:34 PM »
This topic is one reason I wanted at least a 150 scoot, around the areas I intend to ride speeds are 35 to 50 with a lil power to spare. To me a 50cc is just not enough oomph, if you have to redline it always that should ring a few bells in your thought process's. It does cause more wear and tear on the scoot or any machine.

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Re: How far is to far?
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2014, 02:55:31 PM »
two wheel fun that is the reason I got a 300i downtown, good riding other side of town, speed to get there 70 to 80 mph.  or the traffic will run you down,. cages are nuts,.

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Re: How far is to far?
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2014, 03:43:07 PM »
50cc does have its advantages though, parking legal on a side walk, no tags or reg, no M endorsement, cheaper ins etc.. I could see myself at 70 riding a Honda metro for short trips, not now though.

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Re: How far is to far?
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2014, 03:54:30 PM »
50cc does have its advantages though, parking legal on a side walk, no tags or reg, no M endorsement, cheaper ins etc.. I could see myself at 70 riding a Honda metro for short trips, not now though.
They'd be great for getting across WalMart from the ammo isle to the Depends~!
 Will keep this is mind....for when I get old.
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Re: How far is to far?
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2014, 03:58:45 PM »
They'd be great for getting across WalMart from the ammo isle to the Depends~!
 Will keep this is mind....for when I get old.
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Re: How far is to far?
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2014, 04:28:32 AM »
50cc does have its advantages though, parking legal on a side walk, no tags or reg, no M endorsement, cheaper ins etc.. I could see myself at 70 riding a Honda metro for short trips, not now though.
Yep always loved those advantages! For now I can deal with only going 35 mph considering its saving me money. But riding a scooter in Walmarts a killer idea, might just have to try that sometime.  ;)
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Re: How far is to far?
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2014, 04:30:12 AM »
Darn someone beat me to riding through Wally World.
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