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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Agility 125 => Topic started by: docjones on October 21, 2010, 05:28:03 PM

Title: Headlight bulb
Post by: docjones on October 21, 2010, 05:28:03 PM
My low beam has failed, high beam still works fine. Can I get a replacement bulb at the local auto parts store or is it something special? Also is it easy to replace?
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: axy on October 21, 2010, 08:41:02 PM
My low beam has failed, high beam still works fine. Can I get a replacement bulb at the local auto parts store or is it something special? Also is it easy to replace?

Yes you can, you have one screw in the front and six (or so) in the back to remove the whole headlight assembly.
3 min of work.
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: Cortez on October 22, 2010, 09:46:18 AM
My low beam has failed, high beam still works fine. Can I get a replacement bulb at the local auto parts store or is it something special? Also is it easy to replace?

+1 on what Axy said..
You need a 'H4' type bulb.
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: marioG on October 23, 2010, 01:10:21 PM
i used h4 55w osram nightbreaker...

also noticed if u dont change rear to led, scoot got problem with too much power consumption from front light...so 35w if u dont change these..
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: Cortez on October 24, 2010, 10:20:20 AM
i used h4 55w osram nightbreaker...

also noticed if u dont change rear to led, scoot got problem with too much power consumption from front light...so 35w if u dont change these..

The rear's power consumption is minimal.. so I wouldn't bother.
Are you suggesting that the front H4 stock/OEM bulb was a 35W unit?

You might wanna check BOTH power ratings for the bulbs you had/have now, since the high beam on some
non-road legal H4 bulbs is 100W (low beam is the standard 55W) instead of 60W.

I don't see any problems running both low and high beam at the same time on mine.
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: marioG on October 24, 2010, 11:42:42 AM
its really 35w...

noticed loosing power when holding breakes...rear is dipol 5w/21w and its cousing amp down efect..60+21+5+signal light 5+5....too many wats...low amp-gone fuse..

ive change rear led dipol and plate to led...now things are ok...

also my idle is set to low (i like that, did it myself) feels like 650rpms...big bike tuning...known for bad oil press-higher fric-less km

80/100w tune up works with glass housing and good conn, temps to overheat assembly....kymco is not that good...
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: Cortez on October 24, 2010, 12:14:24 PM
its really 35w...

That's interesting..
Can anyone else here confirm this?

This means that pretty much every single 55W bulb would be an upgrade.
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: docjones on October 27, 2010, 07:13:21 PM
My bulb was not an H4. I got an OEM replacement at my local dealer for $5.00 each.
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: Cortez on October 28, 2010, 11:49:34 AM
My bulb was not an H4.

Which type was it?!
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: marioG on October 28, 2010, 06:44:47 PM
h6, maybe?

ive got r16 agility, only with h4 bulb...sor
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: Cortez on April 06, 2011, 04:21:31 PM
At around 14.000km on the clock, my high-beam died today, and just a few hours later
low beam too. Mostly high was used.. oh well.

Here's what was in my 2006 EU spec Agility 125, a HS1 Philips 35/35W bulb:
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7440/copyofimag0076.th.jpg) (http://img402.imageshack.us/i/copyofimag0076.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

Click on the image for full size and all the numbers and stuff if you're interested.

I replaced it with a regular car-spec H4 55/60W bulb, some generic chinese brand,
$2,5 or so. It SHOULD make a difference due to higher power.. we'll see.

I used to use the high-beam just to get noticed, hopefully I'll be able to get away
with the low now.
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: old mod on April 06, 2011, 05:26:57 PM
I also own agility city, R16 and can confirm OE  headlight HS1 35/35W. I assume it is the same on most scoot's. I upgraded to a Philips Motovision which does give more light, and oncoming traffic see an orange glow.
You can fit an H4 with some modification to one of the locating tabs, however some people warn that the extra heat could melt the lens cover, even the 35W comes with a warning of a heat of 200C!
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: Cortez on April 06, 2011, 06:10:21 PM
I also own agility city, R16 and can confirm OE  headlight HS1 35/35W. I assume it is the same on most scoot's. I upgraded to a Philips Motovision which does give more light, and oncoming traffic see an orange glow.
You can fit an H4 with some modification to one of the locating tabs, however some people warn that the extra heat could melt the lens cover, even the 35W comes with a warning of a heat of 200C!

We'll see, if I notice anything going 'bad' in there I'll modify the headlight for more air flow.
BTW, no modifications were needed on mine to fit the H4.. plug & play.
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: Cortez on April 06, 2011, 06:49:51 PM
Just got back from a test ride.

Seems like I've got a light modulator with the cheapo bulb..  ;D
Seriously.. for the first few minutes, the light was constantly changing from like
100% output to 80% and back, in no regular fashion. Is this a cheap bulb feature
or something else?

It shouldn't be the increased power (35 to 55W) since there was no modulating
effect when I used to run both low and high beam at the same time which was
35+35W=70W.

To make things even stranger, the modulating effect was gone after first few minutes.

I haven't checked how warm the headlight cover got before the bulb swap, but it sure
gets rather warm now, but nothing smells funny so...

And yeah, there's a lot more light out there now, but the pattern is even more screwed
up now, again not sure if it's up to the $2 bulb or different type of bulb.
 ???
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: axy on April 06, 2011, 07:41:14 PM
Screwed up light pattern + all that wild uncontrolled wind blowing around - must be almost unbearable now.  ;D 8) :P
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: Aceforever on January 02, 2016, 04:59:57 AM
At around 14.000km on the clock, my high-beam died today, and just a few hours later
low beam too. Mostly high was used.. oh well.

Here's what was in my 2006 EU spec Agility 125, a HS1 Philips 35/35W bulb:
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7440/copyofimag0076.th.jpg) (http://img402.imageshack.us/i/copyofimag0076.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

Click on the image for full size and all the numbers and stuff if you're interested.

I replaced it with a regular car-spec H4 55/60W bulb, some generic chinese brand,
$2,5 or so. It SHOULD make a difference due to higher power.. we'll see.

I used to use the high-beam just to get noticed, hopefully I'll be able to get away
with the low now.
Hey mate, I have the same Kymco Agility 125 2006. Did your scooter come with h4 55/60w or 12v 35/35w H11?
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: Cortez on January 02, 2016, 01:00:17 PM
Hey mate, I have the same Kymco Agility 125 2006. Did your scooter come with h4 55/60w or 12v 35/35w H11?

A 5 year old thread, seriously? :)
It came with the H11 and the light pattern from the H11 was better then the more powerful and bigger H4
I put in after the original died. Buy a better bulb, not a higher power one. :)
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: Aceforever on January 03, 2016, 01:24:35 AM
A 5 year old thread, seriously? :)
It came with the H11 and the light pattern from the H11 was better then the more powerful and bigger H4
I put in after the original died. Buy a better bulb, not a higher power one. :)
My friend, could I use this light bulb: 12V 35/35W S2 BA20D? It look very similar. I can not find any H11 type?
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: Cortez on January 03, 2016, 03:02:20 AM
My friend, could I use this light bulb: 12V 35/35W S2 BA20D? It look very similar. I can not find any H11 type?

I have no idea, there's H11 bulbs in every single general store around here, web shops and ebay (from like $2 a pop).
Really a non-issue.
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: Aceforever on January 03, 2016, 03:10:52 AM
I have no idea, there's H11 bulbs in every single general store around here, web shops and ebay (from like $2 a pop).
Really a non-issue.
None in my local stores or dealers which is why I've been trying hard to find out?

Here is the bulb I found which I can buy on ebay but can not find an H11: http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1ukOOIFXXXXX3XXXXq6xXFXXXK/Light-font-b-Bulbs-b-font-Round-Style-2-Contact-font-b-S2-b-font-font.jpg (http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1ukOOIFXXXXX3XXXXq6xXFXXXK/Light-font-b-Bulbs-b-font-Round-Style-2-Contact-font-b-S2-b-font-font.jpg)

What other light bulb could I use for a Agility 2006? I don't think I can wait around to receive my answer. I will go ahead and buy this bulb and try my luck.
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: Cortez on January 03, 2016, 03:13:31 AM
You can use any H4 like stated in the posts above.
Every car parts store will have a massive choice of those.

These are very basic common bulbs we're talking here, and I live in the middle of nowhere Croatia. o.O
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: Aceforever on January 03, 2016, 03:27:25 AM
You can use any H4 like stated in the posts above.
Every car parts store will have a massive choice of those.

These are very basic common bulbs we're talking here, and I live in the middle of nowhere Croatia. o.O
Did you mean H4:
(http://members.modernvespa.net/huffinstuf/uploads/halogen_h4_bulb_850.jpg)

I can't use this bulb it doesn't have the correct fitting or am I missing something here? I can take a photo and post here if you want?

I have this bulb:
(http://www.af1racing.com/store/ProdImages/scara50headlight.jpg)

I know it can be basic to others but this is my first time changing it. I learned how to change the oil from kymco-forum so far I am pretty happy with my progress of DIY. 
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: hdsteal on February 26, 2017, 11:27:49 PM
Know this post is over a year old, but how did you fix you bulb issue?
I have same bulb ("old school") as you have pictured & am also new to the
Agility.  Thanks
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: Redk on April 30, 2017, 03:48:48 PM
Ace, this one worked for us, for our Kinetic TFR which uses the same bulb you show...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/172573300316?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/172573300316?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

It works Great !
Did I mention it was cheep, like the budgie ?  :-)

No clue how long it will last, but I am now happy with the vendor and will get a couple more just to keep on hand.
redk
Title: Re: Headlight bulb
Post by: Aceforever on August 04, 2019, 01:33:29 PM
Ace, this one worked for us, for our Kinetic TFR which uses the same bulb you show...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/172573300316?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/172573300316?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

It works Great !
Did I mention it was cheep, like the budgie ?  :-)

No clue how long it will last, but I am now happy with the vendor and will get a couple more just to keep on hand.
redk
Interesting! BA20D is the correct fitting. Will make an order so I can LED everyone else who shines their bright as LED on me at night time (my turn - lock and loaded)  ;D