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Title: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: 2wheelfun on June 12, 2014, 10:25:40 PM
Currently I'm using a 3/4 helmet and like it a lot, but after reading some horror stories about taking a spill I'm seriously considering a full face to protect my face if the need popped up. What do you guys wear, where did you buy yours if full face? Most look like space helmets, I'd like a more traditional look.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: AMAC1680 on June 12, 2014, 10:50:06 PM
I own everything from modular full face to skull caps.

Most of the time I wear a Nolan 3/4. I got hit three months ago and the Nolan took a beating but no front face impact in the crash. The full face would be fine if it didn't get so damn hot. I do most do my riding in Florida.I never buy a helmet I can't try on first.

The fact is the more you cover the better off you'll be in a crash.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: wordslinger on June 12, 2014, 11:36:45 PM
I have a 2" long gash on the front chin area of my full-face, where a rock spun up off a passing vehicle's tire hit... Anything but a full, and that would have been my teeth, ssso....  8)
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: wkreps on June 13, 2014, 03:47:37 AM
Bought my first scoot this March and never considered anything other than full face. Sales gal seemed glad to hear it when she asked what I was considering (helmet wise).
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: johnson on June 13, 2014, 04:13:40 AM
I have a silver full face on a shelf in the closet over my scooter gear.  It has scratches all up and down the front where my face would've scraped along the street when I fell doing about 35mph.  I only wear a half helmet (with face shield) on neighborhood rides where I'm doing no more than 25mph and just making short hops.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: GLV55 on June 13, 2014, 03:52:07 PM
I went from a 1/2 to a 3/4, mainly because of the cold weather riding - needed more insulation on my ears. My helmet has a chin piece that can be attached to make it into a full face helmet in the colder weather, but I use it as a 3/4 in the warmer weather. With my glasses, I just can't get a full face to work for me without screwing them up or bending the frames.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: MaryK on June 13, 2014, 05:31:48 PM
HJC Cl-16 full face helmets work fine with my glasses and those of my husband.

We have 3/4 helmets but always wear the full face, even in summer.

scoot safely,
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on June 13, 2014, 07:41:24 PM
I watched a couple of videos on how to choose a helmet. Very helpful!
I tried on dozens of helmets at a motorcycle super store, on 3 different days.
I settled on a HJC modular helmet ('flip-up' full face helmet) which had the only size & inner shape to fit my head and my chin (!) , and permitted me to keep my glasses on while putting on the helmet.
I think there is little argument that full face helmets are the safest.....(ever see a racer in any other kind?)
If you want to look cool, buy a nice 1/2 or 3/4 helmet to wear while you watch truck racing on TV!
Or wear a ball cap backwards , flip flops, Nike shorts and a nice Tee on your scooter - the commercial skin graft repositories and reconstructive surgeons love that look.
Full face helemets are the best thing for riding in traffic on 2 wheels.
Stig

Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: AMAC1680 on June 13, 2014, 08:31:56 PM
I watched a couple of videos on how to choose a helmet. Very helpful!
I tried on dozens of helmets at a motorcycle super store, on 3 different days.
I settled on a HJC modular helmet ('flip-up' full face helmet) which had the only size & inner shape to fit my head and my chin (!) , and permitted me to keep my glasses on while putting on the helmet.
I think there is little argument that full face helmets are the safest.....(ever see a racer in any other kind?)
If you want to look cool, buy a nice 1/2 or 3/4 helmet to wear while you watch truck racing on TV!
Or wear a ball cap backwards , flip flops, Nike shorts and a nice Tee on your scooter - the commercial skin graft repositories and reconstructive surgeons love that look.
Full face helemets are the best thing for riding in traffic on 2 wheels.

Stig

Stig I enjoy your stuff but I have always found those sort of comments a bit, well goofy. It's a lot  like a don't smoke scare commercial. They don't change people's attitudes.

A full face may, or may not be the safest....

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: bleys on June 13, 2014, 11:50:19 PM
I have a 3/4 with face shield and a full face modular.  If I go on the highway, I wear the full face...for city driving, I usually wear the 3/4 and I have had enough rocks and bugs hit the face shields to appreciate having the shield.  Bottom line, as with all safety gear - the safest helmet is the one that you will actually wear.  Full face is safest, but if it sits on the shelf instead of your head, it does you no good.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: GLV55 on June 14, 2014, 03:38:09 AM
Bottom line, as with all safety gear - the safest helmet is the one that you will actually wear.  Full face is safest, but if it sits on the shelf instead of your head, it does you no good.
X2 to that ^^  8)
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: donandrews on June 14, 2014, 05:53:40 AM
I know a dealer that has a customer's full face helmet on display. It has a large groove down the faceshield. The owner t-boned at 50 mph a car that pulled out in front of him. He slid under car and would have lost the front of his face without a shield. I still wear a 3/4 around our small town, but if I'm going to ride over 45 or so, it's the full helmet for me. Only problem is I can't wear my glasses. It's OK because I can still see, but would appreciate knowing what brand(s) you guys with glasses are wearing. Thanks.
Peace and Ride Safe.
Don
PS  I am in Sweden and Norway the next couple weeks. So far I have seen more scooters than motorcycles and NO Harleys.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on June 14, 2014, 01:08:01 PM
I know a dealer that has a customer's full face helmet on display. It has a large groove down the faceshield. The owner t-boned at 50 mph a car that pulled out in front of him. He slid under car and would have lost the front of his face without a shield. I still wear a 3/4 around our small town, but if I'm going to ride over 45 or so, it's the full helmet for me. Only problem is I can't wear my glasses. It's OK because I can still see, but would appreciate knowing what brand(s) you guys with glasses are wearing. Thanks.
Peace and Ride Safe.
Don
PS  I am in Sweden and Norway the next couple weeks. So far I have seen more scooters than motorcycles and NO Harleys.
I wanted only a full face helmet. The HJC CL Max Modular was the only helmet of dozens I tried that I could put on without removing my glasses.
If I tried to put the glasses on after I put on any helmet it did not work, the glasses hung up around my face - felt like I would break them eventually if I kept doing it.
Probably lots of modular (flip-up full face) helmets would work with glasses - but this HJC was the only one that fit the shape and size of my XXXX head.
My balaclavas (yes, when it gets below 10 degrees F I wear two!) can stretch the inner helmet pads - so I have a set of pads I use in the summer to keep the helmet snug as on day one.
(If you get the chance - could you get me the autograph of the Swedish Chef from the muppets while you're there?)
Stig
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on June 14, 2014, 01:11:59 PM
I have a 3/4 with face shield and a full face modular.  If I go on the highway, I wear the full face...for city driving, I usually wear the 3/4 and I have had enough rocks and bugs hit the face shields to appreciate having the shield.  Bottom line, as with all safety gear - the safest helmet is the one that you will actually wear.  Full face is safest, but if it sits on the shelf instead of your head, it does you no good.
Agreed, so toss the 3/4 so you'll only have the full face - and then wear it religiously.
The AllState guy says most wrecks happen close to home.....not on the highway.
Stig
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: AMAC1680 on June 14, 2014, 02:58:35 PM
Agreed, so toss the 3/4 so you'll only have the full face - and then wear it religiously.
The AllState guy says most wrecks happen close to home.....not on the highway.
Stig

Wear what works for you.
How about this. If you have any kind of cervical restriction the limited peripheral vision of a full face requires one to turn the head more than on a 3/4. In that case the full face creates "blind spots" that don't exist on the 3/4.

So in that case the full face would hamper vision.

We can go back and forth on this as has been done since the invention of the lid.
Fact is I don't care what others wear, personal choice.

If I had a buck for every rider I saw in a full face and no other protective gear I'd be a rich man.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on June 15, 2014, 04:00:58 PM

If I had a buck for every rider I saw in a full face and no other protective gear I'd be a rich man.

Be Big,
AMAC
If I gave away a $ for every helmet wearer in my county - I'd still have change from my twenty. The unsettled peripheral vision question is the only reservation I've ever read about regarding full face helmets. Obviously it is an issue for yourself.
Stig
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: bleys on June 15, 2014, 06:34:51 PM
@ Don....I wear a Hawk modular as my full helmet - I have the same problem with glasses, but with the Modular, I put the helmet on, lift the chin bar, put the glasses on, and lower the chin bar...good to go.

@ Stig....you are of course correct, Sir, and I bought the Full face modular with the intent of not ever wearing the 3/4 again.  However, with 3 fused back vertabra and limited ability to turn my neck, I have opted for having better visibility when riding in the city.  On the highway, I can make due better with the decrease in peripheral vision.

I also do a lot of bicycle riding.  Anyone else feel that the itty, bitty bike helmets leave you feeling unprotected... Almost want to wear my 3/4 wen riding the bike as I can hit 30+ going down hills with no problem....LOL
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: AMAC1680 on June 15, 2014, 07:27:28 PM
If I gave away a $ for every helmet wearer in my county - I'd still have change from my twenty. The unsettled peripheral vision question is the only reservation I've ever read about regarding full face helmets. Obviously it is an issue for yourself.
Stig

Yeah we got a lot of helmet less riders here to. Never was my thing.

I first came across the neck and vision thing working with kids blown up in Iraq. So many still ride but have neck isssue that make a full face a bit troublesome.

The real question should be "what do you wear on your feet". I've seen a lot of folks all armored up but lacking on footwear.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: mnpugdog on June 15, 2014, 07:56:48 PM
I have a silver full face on a shelf in the closet over my scooter gear.  It has scratches all up and down the front where my face would've scraped along the street when I fell doing about 35mph.  I only wear a half helmet (with face shield) on neighborhood rides where I'm doing no more than 25mph and just making short hops.

Over 80% of crashes are within 2 miles of your home. A crash at 25 or 35 will be no different when it comes to your head hitting the road.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: JJJoseph on June 16, 2014, 06:11:06 AM
I do continuous deliveries and can't deal with constantly removing a full-face helmet while wearing glasses, but mostly because people don't understand what I'm saying when I'm wearing a full-face.  So I prefer a 3/4 helmet because I can speak and hear while wearing the helmet.  PS: been riding for over 50 years, crashed 3 times mostly with 3/4 helmets, rarely injured much more than a few scrapes.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on June 16, 2014, 01:46:10 PM
I do continuous deliveries and can't deal with constantly removing a full-face helmet while wearing glasses, but mostly because people don't understand what I'm saying when I'm wearing a full-face.  So I prefer a 3/4 helmet because I can speak and hear while wearing the helmet.  PS: been riding for over 50 years, crashed 3 times mostly with 3/4 helmets, rarely injured much more than a few scrapes.
Sounds like a good customer for a "modular" (flip-up) full face helmet ! You can do all of that with a modular.
Stig
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: mnpugdog on June 16, 2014, 03:38:37 PM
Sounds like a good customer for a "modular" (flip-up) full face helmet ! You can do all of that with a modular.
Stig

Exactly, If you look at the crash data out there 1/3 of all crashes involve trauma to the jaw. Not a chance I'm willing to take. But to each their own on what they will wear. Something is better then nothing.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: 2wheelfun on June 16, 2014, 06:39:46 PM
I know I posted this in the wrong category, messed up. I'm convinced I need a full face helmet. Too scared to buy online because of my unusual head size and it won't fit. Besides m/c shops who way over charge where can you walk in to buy m/c helmets with a selection? Is a $100 budget unrealistic for a DOT helmet full face? Some of those go for $600 or more and that's crazy.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on June 16, 2014, 09:21:54 PM
I know I posted this in the wrong category, messed up. I'm convinced I need a full face helmet. Too scared to buy online because of my unusual head size and it won't fit. Besides m/c shops who way over charge where can you walk in to buy m/c helmets with a selection? Is a $100 budget unrealistic for a DOT helmet full face? Some of those go for $600 or more and that's crazy.
First visit cycle shops to find a brand and size that fits your head (DO FIRST watch videos on how to properly size a helmet, since the salesperson in the shop may be a complete nube!!)
After you have that info - then shop the web or dealers for that helmet.
You are correct - every helmet company helmet is a slightly different shape....and only some will properly fit your head. Watch those expert videos on sizing.
There are some full face helmets in the $100 to $150 range.....They should all be safety approved (look for sticker on back)
It is better to wear a lower priced helmet - than to say they are too pricey and not buy any kind!!!
Look online after you find one that fits. Or, make an offer with the shop you're standing in - most of them could surely use your business!
If you only have $100, keep saving for a couple more weeks and get that $130 helmet! (A $600 helemt is not crazy - just very light, very quiet and very safe!)
Stig
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: DMblues01 on June 16, 2014, 09:42:24 PM
I got an AFX 3/4 helmet with a clear face shield. I can't do a true full face, because it irks my claustophobia!
I mainly wanted a face shield since I ride in rain sometimes.
I got it from a local shop for about $85. It fits nice and snug, but the padding is cushy enough that I can put my hoody up, and still wear the helmet over it when the weather was cold.
And when it's warm, I can click the face up a notch to get air on my face.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: AMAC1680 on June 17, 2014, 12:30:10 AM
I know I posted this in the wrong category, messed up. I'm convinced I need a full face helmet. Too scared to buy online because of my unusual head size and it won't fit. Besides m/c shops who way over charge where can you walk in to buy m/c helmets with a selection? Is a $100 budget unrealistic for a DOT helmet full face? Some of those go for $600 or more and that's crazy.

Age old argument more $$ equal safer.
Money buys far better comfort, lite weight, better ventilation, fancy graphics and a quieter ride. It doesn't make a helmet any safer. All helmets are held to the same DOT test standard.

If you have a cycle gear near you they have plenty of approved full face lids for 100.00 or less.

Be Big,
AMAC


Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: zombie on June 17, 2014, 01:42:30 AM
Bought my first scoot this March and never considered anything other than full face. Sales gal seemed glad to hear it when she asked what I was considering (helmet wise).

I'm laughing too hard to get this out... Maybe in a bit
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: AMAC1680 on June 17, 2014, 10:08:49 AM
I'm laughing too hard to get this out... Maybe in a bit

Oh my !

Be Big,,
AMAC
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: mnpugdog on June 18, 2014, 01:37:01 AM
First visit cycle shops to find a brand and size that fits your head (DO FIRST watch videos on how to properly size a helmet, since the salesperson in the shop may be a complete nube!!)
After you have that info - then shop the web or dealers for that helmet.
Stig

This exactly what I do. You can get much better pricing online but I want to actually see how it fits on my head first.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: wordslinger on June 18, 2014, 11:02:56 PM
This exactly what I do. You can get much better pricing online but I want to actually see how it fits on my head first.

..ditto!   8)
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: AMAC1680 on June 18, 2014, 11:11:50 PM
Damn you guys are tough on the Bricks and Mortar dealers.

Have you ever asked these folks to price match ? I have and they come close more often than not. After that it's just a matter of if a few extra bucks is worth the good will.

I know I sound like a rag but it is what it is.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: wordslinger on June 18, 2014, 11:15:22 PM
I wouldn't buy one online...I have to try it on.. And I want in on my head when I ride out of the shop...   ;D
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: AVGuy on June 19, 2014, 02:36:49 AM
I buy some accessories online but have always bought my helmets and some other things locally. My dealer takes good care of me so I like to support him. I do research things online and read reviews and user ratings.

I currently have a Nolan 104 modular, which I really like.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: zombie on June 19, 2014, 04:10:09 AM
Just so you know... I bought a skull cap on line ( forget where) and used a 4" grinder to make it actually fit. I removed alot of the foam material, and then used a propane torch to smooth it out.

I understand I changed the dynamics of the helmet but I did make fit. Arguably we are not all a one size fits all community.

Zombies have a larger cranium. Just the way it is. More room for b ullsh** is the way I see it.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: wkreps on June 19, 2014, 07:10:31 PM
Damn you guys are tough on the Bricks and Mortar dealers.

Have you ever asked these folks to price match ? I have and they come close more often than not. After that it's just a matter of if a few extra bucks is worth the good will.

I know I sound like a rag but it is what it is.

Be Big,
AMAC
I might have if they were a little closer and not obviously price gouging. In the case of my armored jacket:

Dealer= $250.00
Company website= $199.99
revzilla.com= $188.XX

If the dealer had it for $200 I might have bought it on the spot but $62 is a hellava savings. I should not have to ask for a price match or discount. It's not a garage sale. (my feelings anyway). Besides, any brick & mortor business should know people are internet price checking. Car dealers have figured this out.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: AMAC1680 on June 19, 2014, 07:44:53 PM
I might have if they were a little closer and not obviously price gouging. In the case of my armored jacket:

Dealer= $250.00
Company website= $199.99
revzilla.com= $188.XX

If the dealer had it for $200 I might have bought it on the spot but $62 is a hellava savings. I should not have to ask for a price match or discount. It's not a garage sale. (my feelings anyway). Besides, any brick & mortor business should know people are internet price checking. Car dealers have figured this out.

Lol.
B&Ms can't spend the day shopping online prices that change with the wind.
IMO it's your loss by not asking.

BTW auto dealers only will match an online price......if you ask. They don't run up to you when you enter the showroom and say "here's that rock bottom net price".

To use the B&M as a "fitting room" without giving them the opportunity to price match, IMO, is poor form.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: zombie on June 19, 2014, 11:57:57 PM
Hey! Leave that nic young boy alone.  8)

At least he didn't steal it.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on June 20, 2014, 11:35:34 AM
Lol.
B&Ms can't spend the day shopping online prices that change with the wind.
IMO it's your loss by not asking.

BTW auto dealers only will match an online price......if you ask. They don't run up to you when you enter the showroom and say "here's that rock bottom net price".

To use the B&M as a "fitting room" without giving them the opportunity to price match, IMO, is poor form.

Be Big,
AMAC
I never thought about asking my dealer to price match. They are famous miles around for not "dealing". Know a guy who paid cash for 3 four wheelers and gear......they would not budge on the price..... so those three guys went elsewhere.  These folks asked me to pay $372 for the first service on my LIKE200.
They have clearance sales...no dealing otherwise.
I cannot afford to use them as anything but a fitting room. Folks, do not buy a helmet online without trying on the SAME helmet first, somwhere!! EVERY manufacturer makes different inside shapes.....but you MUST have an exact fit to be your safest!!
STIG
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: AMAC1680 on June 20, 2014, 11:56:11 AM
I never thought about asking my dealer to price match. They are famous miles around for not "dealing". Know a guy who paid cash for 3 four wheelers and gear......they would not budge on the price..... so those three guys went elsewhere.  These folks asked me to pay $372 for the first service on my LIKE200.
They have clearance sales...no dealing otherwise.
I cannot afford to use them as anything but a fitting room. Folks, do not buy a helmet online without trying on the SAME helmet first, somwhere!! EVERY manufacturer makes different inside shapes.....but you MUST have an exact fit to be your safest!!
STIG

Hey you give them an opportunity if they fall short their loss. I'll pay a little more based on the fact they stock and maintain inventory. If there not close I buy elsewhere.

It's always worth asking. Hell if I'm making a large purchase and they take credit cards I ask what's the discount for cash. On large sums I've got discounts for cash.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: wkreps on June 20, 2014, 03:08:58 PM
To use the B&M as a "fitting room" without giving them the opportunity to price match, IMO, is poor form.

Be Big,
AMAC
Understood.
I'll be looking at a mesh jacket in the future (probably not til next summer). If I ever get the $$ saved, I'll give them the opportunity and we'll see what kind of reaction I get.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: mnpugdog on June 20, 2014, 04:00:12 PM
Lol.

To use the B&M as a "fitting room" without giving them the opportunity to price match, IMO, is poor form.

Be Big,
AMAC

It depends on which B&M I go to. I have several to choose from. Most of them won't even come close to price matching. The one that does also happens to be a online store with the motherstore near me. But they don't carry alot of things I like, they are more motocross focused.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: AMAC1680 on June 20, 2014, 05:00:10 PM
Some just won't budge and in the end that will be costly to them.

What I think is great is that so many here are concerned about the quality and fit of the safety gear!
This is a smart bunch for sure. :)

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: zombie on June 21, 2014, 12:07:18 AM
Cheap F'rs too!
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: AMAC1680 on June 21, 2014, 01:21:49 AM
Cheap F'rs too!

Lol. You do amuse me.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: wordslinger on June 21, 2014, 01:26:31 AM
Lol. You do amuse me.

Be Big,
AMAC

...See?!   :o
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: zombie on June 21, 2014, 03:54:00 AM
Sorry~

It's all good. I have a lot of fun here w/ 99.9 % of everyone.

It's all a love thing. Someone always has to get slaped in a group of kids so ooo. I'll take the slap for you all.

Now i'm gonna jack for one second... GET ALL of the dealers we used involved with helping the forum. If we all CAL anywhere, and mentio the Discount" for the forum. They MIGHT pay attention to the ten second email linking the dealer to us with a discount...

This forum is Skads! He leaves us alone, and lok at the groups of people that have teamed up for fun. FUN!

We can pull A LOT business 's together, and save THOUSANDS of $$$.
I promise you I have done that by my self. Make yourself a dealer with these sites we all prefer! Use the keyboard to set it all up in half hr at the most? 5 minuets if you type with more than 4 fingers?

That was funny...

Sorry for the jack. Really.

I'm gonna copy/paste this because it is going to be my Standard jack till we get 5 new dealler account type arrangements.

SKAD!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I Love you most of all!!!!!!!! 8)

Trampled by Turtles - "Where is my Mind?" (Pixies Cover) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZvVeQI0heg#ws)
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: arcanum70 on June 25, 2014, 04:01:30 AM
I wear full face, it has plenty of ventilation so I'm cool (well, not 'cool', I'm about the furthest away from 'cool' that you can be, and still be breathing) on hot summer days.  I also wear a doo rag to help when it is hot, because even with ventilation you will sweat some.  And when it gets colder I just close the vents.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: Chris0381 on June 26, 2014, 12:27:54 PM
Let me ask.

I wear a full face and the visor fogs up a bit. Is it ok to part the visor ever so slightly to get better air flow in. This is for a 50cc going 40 MP. I'm sure we have various speeds in this thread.

As it stands now, after only 2 months, my visor is riddled with bug and bits and particle hits.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: nightriderrv on June 26, 2014, 01:03:54 PM
Full face for sure aside from the protection you get from it ever have a bee hit you in the face  :( it hurts feels like a rock hitting you.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: wkreps on June 26, 2014, 02:19:15 PM
I went for a test ride just around the block last night with just glasses on and it sucked. Since I've wore a helmet from day 1 (march 7, 2014) it just doesn't feel right.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: AMAC1680 on June 26, 2014, 03:33:12 PM
Yeah from time to time I'll take a short ride after tinkering with the motor to hear what's happening and it feels strange.

Back in the day when there were less important things in my head I loved it. Wind in the hair, ahh hair I remember that, and bugs in the teeth. Life was simple.

Now I feel naked if I skip the gloves.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: mnpugdog on June 26, 2014, 08:35:25 PM
Let me ask.

I wear a full face and the visor fogs up a bit. Is it ok to part the visor ever so slightly to get better air flow in. This is for a 50cc going 40 MP. I'm sure we have various speeds in this thread.

As it stands now, after only 2 months, my visor is riddled with bug and bits and particle hits.

In town I almost always have the visor up one notch for ventiolation. The only time I have it all the way down is on the freeway.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: wkreps on June 27, 2014, 02:10:45 PM
Yeah from time to time I'll take a short ride after tinkering with the motor to hear what's happening and it feels strange.

Back in the day when there were less important things in my head I loved it. Wind in the hair, ahh hair I remember that, and bugs in the teeth. Life was simple.

Now I feel naked if I skip the gloves.

Be Big,
AMAC

I only notch it up 1 click to get rid of fogging and then it's back down again. Read a post on here one time about a bee getting through the crack of a helmet and what a nightmare that was. Figured I'd probably wreck myself if that happened to me so the only time I open it it fully is at stoplights while I'm waiting.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: zombie on June 28, 2014, 01:26:41 AM
I fill my helmet w/ mahogany wasps, and run straight for the bar. By the time I get there everyone says... "Wow, You look like you can use a drink"

Free drinks!

Just kidding... I don't own a helmet. The dogs ate it. Not kidding.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: bluesin on June 28, 2014, 03:52:18 AM
I fill my helmet w/ mahogany wasps, and run straight for the bar. By the time I get there everyone says... "Wow, You look like you can use a drink"

Free drinks!

Just kidding... I don't own a helmet. The dogs ate it. Not kidding.


 I keep my Queens ( From my hives ) in mine...all the boys (drones) follow us everywhere and no one pushes me around that way  ;)
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: zombie on June 28, 2014, 04:59:26 AM
Buzz Crew in da HOUSE!

Now if I said what you said it would be a whole 'nuther forum.
I was still apprehensive about reading that.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: bluesin on June 28, 2014, 06:14:20 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: zombie on June 28, 2014, 07:22:05 AM
We need more smilies. There are a few missing here. :P
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: bluesin on June 28, 2014, 09:27:06 AM
 :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: zombie on June 28, 2014, 08:44:50 PM
LOL  8)
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: Vintage MX on July 11, 2014, 02:47:02 AM
Full face on road or off.  While you are at it, get one approved by the Snell Memorial Foundation.  They really don't cost any more and give that extra bit of assurance.  Snell was a race car drive who died in the 60s when his helmet failed.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: zombie on July 11, 2014, 09:09:00 PM
Interesting. I never knew that. Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: AMAC1680 on July 11, 2014, 09:58:04 PM
SNELL 2005 or 2010 certification does not neccaserrlay make a helmet safer.

http://silodrome.com/snell-vs-dot-vs-ece-r22-05-helmet-standards-throwdown/ (http://silodrome.com/snell-vs-dot-vs-ece-r22-05-helmet-standards-throwdown/)

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: zombie on July 11, 2014, 10:00:20 PM
It makes it safer than a bandanna w/ no Snell.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: AMAC1680 on July 11, 2014, 10:30:54 PM
It makes it safer than a bandanna w/ no Snell.

No question.
But not as safe as SNELL and a Banana.......huh? ???

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: zombie on July 12, 2014, 05:12:26 AM
Clever boy! You got a sister?
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: wkreps on July 13, 2014, 04:04:09 AM
Clever boy! You got a sister?
You so silly. You know she'd strike you out every time and you'd never get to 1st base. Remember, when up to bat, wear your helmet.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: zombie on July 13, 2014, 07:05:36 AM
I always wear tin foil! It's an old Irish thing.

If you r sister wants a King send her down south. I need to be punched out by a strong gal!
Always ready.  Z
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: josephthediviner on September 21, 2014, 11:17:46 AM
Depends on how much of your head/ face you value.

I like a flip up full face helmet and I am on my third one in two years first I struck a large raccoon at night and went down with a broken shoulder scapula and ribs one of which punctured a lung, the Dr. told me I was the first live person he had seen with similar injuries and was I wearing a helmet?    The next helmet was used up nearly a year later while cruising thru Arkansas an Elk met me while I was traveling 65 during the afternoon.

  I woke up 11 days later in little rock after having two life flights and two hospitals and dying twice with a mangled spleen and a torn aorta (the bitch broke my heart)! and broken collar bone broken scapula and ribs and wrist lots of road rash..  anyhow the helmet worked again and I am now wearing a new flip face.   They work!    And by the way armor jackets might help some but?   

quick reply    I am sure that P.E.T.A. is looking for me..
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: AMAC1680 on September 21, 2014, 12:08:54 PM
Depends on how much of your head/ face you value.

I like a flip up full face helmet and I am on my third one in two years first I struck a large raccoon at night and went down with a broken shoulder scapula and ribs one of which punctured a lung, the Dr. told me I was the first live person he had seen with similar injuries and was I wearing a helmet?    The next helmet was used up nearly a year later while cruising thru Arkansas an Elk met me while I was traveling 65 during the afternoon.

  I woke up 11 days later in little rock after having two life flights and two hospitals and dying twice with a mangled spleen and a torn aorta (the bitch broke my heart)! and broken collar bone broken scapula and ribs and wrist lots of road rash..  anyhow the helmet worked again and I am now wearing a new flip face.   They work!    And by the way armor jackets might help some but?

Are you riding or hunting ? ;)

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: mverps on September 21, 2014, 05:12:46 PM
"If I had a buck for every rider I saw in a full face and no other protective gear I'd be a rich man. "
It always amazes me to see someone in a full face helmet a tee shirt, shorts and floppy's on there feet.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: zombie on September 22, 2014, 12:39:24 AM
LOL! That Always kills me. Ha Ha, get the irony?
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on September 25, 2014, 09:48:27 PM
This is easy:
How much of your face will you want tomorrow?

Stig
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: 2wheelfun on November 25, 2014, 01:41:36 AM
Finally found a full face Scorpion exo 700 xxl that's almost new, going to pick it up tomorrow for $55. Good deal and the visors from my exo200 will interchange with it.........I'm happy. Love to save money.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: zombie on November 25, 2014, 02:39:59 AM
Nice score! ;)
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on November 25, 2014, 03:42:11 PM
Currently I'm using a 3/4 helmet and like it a lot, but after reading some horror stories about taking a spill I'm seriously considering a full face to protect my face if the need popped up. What do you guys wear, where did you buy yours if full face? Most look like space helmets, I'd like a more traditional look.
Unless you're constantly circling Macy's .....you ain't gonna see what you look like in your helmet.
Ride safest...full face helmet (unless there really IS one part of your face you simply don't need)
Stig
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: 2wheelfun on November 25, 2014, 08:08:19 PM
What's the point of the quote? Just curious.............xxl fits me like a glove in the Scorpion brand. I must have a huge head and never realized it. Back in the day 2 helmets I had weren't that size I know. I think those sizes are for Asians and they have a different way of sizing.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: zombie on November 25, 2014, 11:22:00 PM
LOL Asian eh...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK5xSg-2eHw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK5xSg-2eHw)
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: alloo on November 28, 2014, 05:09:10 PM

Full face in the winter, 3/4 helmet in the spring and fall, 1/2 shell in the dead of summer.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: AMAC1680 on November 29, 2014, 10:50:17 AM
Unless you're constantly circling Macy's .....you ain't gonna see what you look like in your helmet.
Ride safest...full face helmet (unless there really IS one part of your face you simply don't need)
Stig

Goofy.

Be Big,
AMAC
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: bountybuddy on February 14, 2015, 01:28:56 AM
All my wife and I wear are full face helmets.  We ride with the visor opened a bit.  As long as we are moving they are fine.  When you stop they get very hot.  I doubt if we will ever not wear a full face helmet.  Ride safe my friends.
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on October 25, 2015, 11:29:10 AM
Subject header reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw in a local bookstore....," You don't need to vaccinate all of your children, only the ones you want to keep."
Stig
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: AMAC1680 on October 25, 2015, 11:37:40 PM
Subject header reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw in a local bookstore....," You don't need to vaccinate all of your children, only the ones you want to keep."
Stig

Eight months later.....
Maybe if the topic was helmet / no helmet. Maybe.

AMAC
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: ScooterWolf on October 28, 2015, 12:34:47 PM
Full face. I like my teeth and face the way they are, and not eating through a straw. The heat's never bothered me. I just lift the visor up.

I'd rather sweat than bleed, or hemorrhage.

- Wolf
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: AMAC1680 on October 28, 2015, 01:40:47 PM
Full face. I like my teeth and face the way they are, and not eating through a straw. The heat's never bothered me. I just lift the visor up.

I'd rather sweat than bleed, or hemorrhage.

- Wolf

I'll bang this drum forever.
Full face not always the safest and in some instances can be a danger.

AMAC
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: ScooterWolf on October 29, 2015, 05:39:12 PM
How so?

- Wolf
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: AMAC1680 on October 29, 2015, 10:29:42 PM
How so?

- Wolf

I've found many of the vets I work with and still ride have some cervical issues that limits full neck range of motion. I have the same problem.A full face helmet requires a wider range of motion than a 3/4. The smaller opening creates blind spots that aren't there on a 3/4.

So a choice has to be made.
Do we ride in a full face and and limit view becoming a daily danger to ourselves and others or do we wear a 3/4 and assume the slightly added risk should we end up "on the hard". Easy choice.

So sure for most full face is the way to go. But there are exceptions and that's why I find the old hat "if you like your face...." Comments just worn.

To be clear I'm HiVis ATGATT and have survived a crash due to that fact.
As for the rest of those who ride it's their choice. Hat or no hat makes no difference to me.

AMAC
Title: Re: Full face, 3/4 or 1/2 helmet?
Post by: ScooterWolf on October 30, 2015, 03:02:14 AM
I understand what you’re saying and it makes sense. I tend to compensate with shoulder checks, and constant scanning. Maybe I won’t be able to do the same when I’m older, but I’ll cross that bridge later. Even without any helmet we have blind shots in our peripheral vision. If I’m going to be hit, I’d rather have the protection. My wife wears a 3/4 helmet, but she’s considering a full face, especially as the months grow colder.

A friend of mind was in a crash about 2 years ago. A car cut into his lane, cut him off and down he went. He was wearing a full face helmet. One thing he told me was the sensation of sliding down the road, having his visor pop open and his face and mouth being pelted with gravel. He fractured his hip, but other than that he was fine. His helmet was ruined, but he said if he were wearing anything less his face would have been gone. 

- Wolf